So am I the only one?

The Israeli protocol is to carry with an empty chamber. In this video, at around 9:00 and 9:20 minutes, the pistol pulled and slide racked. It's very fast! The Israelis probably have more experience than most. Practice and training is the key.
Do what you're most comfortable with, but always be tactically/situationally aware!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5deUAF3af4Q
 
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No, you're not the only one. My late wife didn't like the bedside gun kept with one up the spout. It's all about the individual's comfort level.
 
The Israeli protocol is to carry with an empty chamber. In this video, at around 9:00 and 9:20 minutes, the pistol pulled and slide racked. It's very fast!
Yes, but what if his support hand were injured?

I can see the value in carrying with an empty chamber if you have another gun as your primary tool. Sure, the Israeli method can be done quickly, but never as fast as having a round already chambered.

If a person wants to carry with an empty chamber, fine. Just understand the limitations of doing so. Don't have the illusion that it can be just as fast as a round already chambered; it isn't. It's all about the level of risk you're willing to deal with.
 
Yes, but what if his support hand were injured?

I can see the value in carrying with an empty chamber if you have another gun as your primary tool. Sure, the Israeli method can be done quickly, but never as fast as having a round already chambered.

If a person wants to carry with an empty chamber, fine. Just understand the limitations of doing so. Don't have the illusion that it can be just as fast as a round already chambered; it isn't. It's all about the level of risk you're willing to deal with.

And, their primary weapon is a long gun.

To compare concealed carry to what soldiers do in battle are two different things.
 
I dont know if anyone mentioned it but the BIGGEST help is the right holster. You want one that has a leather snap that is between the hammer and firing pin. These pictures probley are too small to see. This is a old Remington Rand worked over by Pachmyer many years ago. Just research types of holsters. It will give you a lot of confidence to trust one in the chamber with the hammer cocked.



 
I'm pretty new to guns and I carry "one in the pipe" If I'm home, I have the safety on. If I'm leaving the house, I turn the safety off. When I target shoot, I practice thumbing the safety on every draw, regardless of whether I know it's active or not. I figure if I instinctively thumb the safety on draw, then I'm covered either way.

I keep the safety on at the house because of the children. All my children know how to shoot. They know to check a gun when it's handed to them (at least the two I own) and they all know how to field strip it. I've never seen one of my children put a finger on the trigger unless it was pointed down range, and they always hand it back to me safely.

I wasn't raised around guns so it was weird when I started. I'm trying to do different by my children. So far, So good.
 
The Israeli protocol is to carry with an empty chamber. In this video, at around 9:00 and 9:20 minutes, the pistol pulled and slide racked. It's very fast! The Israelis probably have more experience than most. Practice and training is the key.

Time to post this again

Since the Israelis are reflexively brought up every time someone mentions carrying with an empty chamber, maybe we should look at why they carry (or carried) with an empty chamber.

When the Israeli Defense Force was originally formed back in the 40s, they were armed with whatever weapons they, as a nation, could quickly acquire. This meant that their pistols were a mish-mash of different designs. Some single action, some double action, some with safeties, and some without. Many were not drop safe. Many did not have holsters.

They needed one simple method to train a large number of people, many of them inexperienced in the use of arms, regardless of what weapon they had. The result was to carry with the chamber empty and rack on the draw. This method:

1) works regardless of the gun's design (SA, DA, safety, no safety)
2) prevents a non-drop-safe gun from going off if dropped (a real possibility when you just stick it in your waistband because you don't have a holster)
3) avoids the possibility of someone not accustomed to a safety sticking a loaded, cocked, and unlocked single action into their waistband

It is important to note that this method IS A COMPROMISE.

There is no tactical advantage to be gained from carrying this way. In fact there is a tactical disadvantage, because it requires both hands. With a modern firearm, there is no safety advantage to be gained from carrying chamber empty, either. (One possible exception to this is someone trying to shoot you with your own gun, but if you are planning your carry method based on someone stealing your concealed gun from you before you can react, perhaps you should reconsider carrying a gun.)

If you need to use a gun in self defense, you're already behind the curve because:
A) You didn't see the situation coming in time to avoid it.
B) You weren't able to find and take an escape from the situation once it started.
C) You weren't able to control or de-escalate the situation before a gun became your only option.
D) You need a gun RIGHT NOW.
E) Your gun is still in its holster (because you don't draw before you need it, right?)

Why put yourself at a further disadvantage by having that holstered gun unloaded as well?

You are not a member of the IDF. You are not mandated to carry your gun in a less-than-optimal manner. Why would you choose to handicap yourself this way? Why would you carry in a manner that may require more hands than you'll have available? That takes more time to deploy? That precludes the ability to fire from retention? That requires putting the gun out there in a place that's bad for retention?

The Israelis don't carry chamber empty because it's tacti-cool. It was a compromise that gained a bit of needed safety at the cost of tactical advantage. Today, now that they have standardized, modern pistols, many Israelis (like SWAT and Special Forces units) do carry with a loaded chamber.


Just carry with one in the pipe, already.
 
It's not reasonable for a lot of people...

This isn't the Israeli army. Most of us are civilians and even non-LEOs. Being able to whip out a gun and rack it in the blink of an eye is a good goal but, realistically, many people aren't going to reach that level of training.
 
I'm pretty new to guns and I carry "one in the pipe" If I'm home, I have the safety on. If I'm leaving the house, I turn the safety off. When I target shoot, I practice thumbing the safety on every draw, regardless of whether I know it's active or not. I figure if I instinctively thumb the safety on draw, then I'm covered either way.

I keep the safety on at the house because of the children. All my children know how to shoot. They know to check a gun when it's handed to them (at least the two I own) and they all know how to field strip it. I've never seen one of my children put a finger on the trigger unless it was pointed down range, and they always hand it back to me safely.

I wasn't raised around guns so it was weird when I started. I'm trying to do different by my children. So far, So good.
What kind of gun are you carrying?
 
This isn't the Israeli army. Most of us are civilians and even non-LEOs. Being able to whip out a gun and rack it in the blink of an eye is a good goal but, realistically, many people aren't going to reach that level of training.
Training or not, most folks just aren't very fast (or safe) at doing that one-handed.
 
We have kind of wandered around a bit here...

To answer the OP's question, it is not at all unusual to be a little uncomfortable with a round in the chamber when you first start to carry. In 1997, when I started carrying a Glock 23, I was certain of two things. First, everyone could tell I was carrying it, and second that it might go off. Neither was true, and both concerns calmed down within a few weeks.

I do have two safety suggestions. First, get a quality holster with stiff construction that will protect the trigger. Second, do not get complacent in your gun handling. Keep your finger off the trigger and be deliberate in your actions.
 
This thread made me remember an uncle who was an Infantry Officer during WWII. I once asked him if he carried a round chambered in his .45. His answer was that he carried it with a round in the chamber, cocked and safety off, and cut the flap off his holster, because if the enemy was close enough for him to hit with a pistol, he didn't have time to do anything but pull and shoot!
My assigned weapon for the whole 20 years I was in the Army was a M1911, and it is not practical for me to carry one locked as I am left handed. Other than in a combat zone, I carried without a round in the chamber, but in VN, I always had a round in the chamber and the hammer down, but I have large hands and could cock the gun with one hand while drawing. For civilian concealed carry, I opt for a revolver.
 
I spent years carrying a variety of firearms while in uniform on the streets. Mostly a 1911 or a medium frame 38. No such thing as "not a round in the chamber" in those situations. It is a non-issue to worry about.


My EDC today is a J-frame hammerless.
 
The first handgun I ever owned was a S&W model 915, it was designed to be carried decocked, in DA mode but I didn't know that.

Almost everyone I knew at the time was an M1911 aficionado and they all carried in condition one, generally in a level one retention holster with the strap seated between the hammer and the firing pin.

Not knowing any better I carried my 915 like that for 6 months until someone squared me away.

Now in case I haven't made myself explicitly clear here I walked around with a cocked and unlocked pistol in my holster for 6 months.

Now as UNSAFE as I now KNOW this is, I have to admit the pistol never "went off" during that time.

I have to ask my self how much less likely a modern firearm, in good working order, carried properly would be to just "go off"
 
I can't bring myself to carry a gun without a safety either. It may be my lack of knowledge of striker guns but doesn't matter, I still can't do it. Therefore, I have always carried a 3rd gen S&W with chambered round and safety on. Wife got to shooting, and carry within the last couple of years and she loves the 1911 platform. Due to this and size and comfort, we both carry a sig 938 cocked and locked, condition one. Know the gun and platform well enough that am completey comfortable carrying this way. One swipe with thumb on draw and she is hot to go.
 
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