Thinking of moving to the middle east

Move on down to the "GunShine" state of Florida.

No state income tax, and we'll treat you so many ways you're bound to like one of them.

You're already used to earthquakes and brush fires, so don't sweat dodging Hurricanes.
 
I you can't find anything you like there, check out Hamilton, MT a little further north. It's also a nice area and closer to good medical care in Missoula. Good luck with your search.


Pete

PS - winters are more moderate in the Lewiston/Clarkston area. FWIW
 
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Idaho is a good choice. I've never lived there, but spent some time there for military training. Nice people, wages are low but so is the cost of living.
 
It's true- in Texas, don't tell people you are from CA.
In New Mexico, don't tell people that you are from CA or Texas.
Same-same for Colorado.
 
Unless you are bringing a mess of cash with you...What do you expect to do for a job? Finding a good paying job is the deal, when moving out to the West.

Yeah it's an idyllic lifestyle, etc. But tough to make a living.

Salmon is a beautiful area. Used to do an annual family fishing trip to nearby Williams lake each year when the wife's Dad was still active.
 
Unless you are bringing a mess of cash with you...What do you expect to do for a job? Finding a good paying job is the deal, when moving out to the West.

Yeah it's an idyllic lifestyle, etc. But tough to make a living.

Salmon is a beautiful area. Used to do an annual family fishing trip to nearby Williams lake each year when the wife's Dad was still active.

I'm retired, Frank237. :D Cheaper to live in Idaho than the SF bayarea in California. Looking for a change in lifestyle also.
 
I'm retired, Frank237. :D Cheaper to live in Idaho than the SF bayarea in California. Looking for a change in lifestyle also.

You are going to LOVE the difference.

Missoula not too far away. Good shopping and the U of M Fieldhouse gun shows in the Summer and Fall are usually worth the trip.

Best of Luck on a hell of a life change!! LOL.

FN in MT
 
OMG!!!

It's starting...I've been afraid the situations in kalifornia would cause their citizens to start migrating east. That's really OK until they start to band to together and begin Californicating their new state. Ask Oregon and Colorado what I'm talking about. Then pretty soon you have a Democratic governor and legislature passing anti-gun laws. Then they start complaining about the durn wild animals running around loose! Or here in Iowa they gripe about bad smells coming from farms fer cripes sake. Maybe outlaw slaughter houses....they're just awful to even think about. Then they'll start with the growing KALE!!!

Border control isn't about Mexico...it's about keeping kalifornians in that state.
 
Salmon is a beautiful place that happens to be on the way to and from a lot of beautiful places. That is probably why I have found myself there several times over the last fifty years, even though it is nowhere close to where I live.

However, it shares at least one weird attribute with Twin Falls for certain, and maybe other places in Idaho. That is, the town's youth seem to be unduly obsessed with the presence of strangers in their town. Most other places in the mountain West are used to tourists, and usually pretty much ignore them unless actually transacting business with them. But in these Idaho towns, the young buzzcocks will spot you right away for an out-of-towner, and will stalk you for hours as you move about their town.

They might do it singly in a jacked-up sedan or a ratty piece of squidware motor cycle. Or they may do it in a group, pacing you on the other side of the street.

I don't know if it is some variant of the LDS xenophobia (like you would encounter in a place like Hanksville, UT), or if it would happen to you anyplace else in Idaho, or if something else is going on. But one thing is for sure; you will not be able to slip into town unnoticed.

All this time I thought it was me.....

A few years back the Mrs. and I were on our Suzuki VStrom 1000 in southern Idaho and had full beer cans tossed at us by some punks. (I don't think the cans were full of beer!:eek:)

We pulled out at the next gas stop, me fully expecting a fistfight at best and a gunfight at worst, but they kept going.

Luckily the Mrs. got the plate number etc. and we called it in.
 
Move on down to the "GunShine" state of Florida.

And I was just thinking: Whatever you do, don't move down here! The summers are suffocating and the winters are bone-chilly yet not cold enough to kill off the pests and whatever it is that I'm apparently allergic to around here.
 
yeah, stay out of the "sandbox" unless you are NOT an 'infidel'.......
last time I was in Kallyfornya, the ground shook under MY feet almost every day ( From the border, north to Oakland..) and I believe what the prophets, and scientists say, the foothills of the Rockies will be beach front property "someday" and as for "down south"?? too close to the mexican border, and along the gulf we spent many times going to help family "rebuild" this or that, after a hurricane, and the cockroaches ( palmetto bugs, you can saddle up and ride kids on them......) so guess we'll stay here along the south shore of Lake Erie, in Amish country, at least we will have FRESH water !!! Home is where your heart is..........good and bad about ALL of them. Good luck whatever move you decide to make;)
 
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It's starting...I've been afraid the situations in kalifornia would cause their citizens to start migrating east. That's really OK until they start to band to together and begin Californicating their new state. Ask Oregon and Colorado what I'm talking about. Then pretty soon you have a Democratic governor and legislature passing anti-gun laws. Then they start complaining about the durn wild animals running around loose! Or here in Iowa they gripe about bad smells coming from farms fer cripes sake. Maybe outlaw slaughter houses....they're just awful to even think about. Then they'll start with the growing KALE!!!

Border control isn't about Mexico...it's about keeping kalifornians in that state.

Thanks Bob, I'll stay out of Iowa.
 
Thanks Bob, I'll stay out of Iowa.

Don't worry about that MD - I left Iowa in 1972 so there is room there if your inclined to go that direction...but to be honest...it's a good state to grow up in and be from.....:D

Pete
 
I'm retired, Frank237. :D Cheaper to live in Idaho than the SF bayarea in California. Looking for a change in lifestyle also.

I expect you will look back at the statement about "lifestyle change" and decide it was the understatement of your life.

I have been to Salmon several times on motorcycle trips, usually staying there 3 or 4 days, riding out on day trips. I found the place to be friendly and congenial.

As mentioned above, Elmer Keith was from there, and the Lewis and Clark expedition found the young Indian, Sacagawea, to scout and translate for them while passing through.

I found one thing very noticeable, and to my mind, commendable. Just observing their homes you see right away, by the cords of firewood, fishing gear, canoes, snowshoes, curing animal hides,generators and such, these folks in that area are self sufficient, and don't need much from the rest of us.
 
I was raised in rural Wisconsin. Then for the next six or seven years worked all over the states, about 8 or 9 states. Finally did my main career in California from 1965 to 2,000. Moved here to Utah in 2005. Evidently since the state is Liberal there must be a lot of them in San Francisco and L.A. because I sure didnt know about only a few. All my friends and associates were conservative like me. I never could figure out who was voting them in as I didnt know any! I am sick of seeing everyone from California automatically being labeled liberal as nothing could be farther from the truth in my experience. California should have been broken up into several states, actually about four states! And its big enough to do it too!
This is a gun site. I knew or met many gun people in California. Guys like Jeff Cooper, Jack Weaver etc. Funny many of the best lived there.
My thing is riding the trails here in Utah. I also can find a sack of empty Bud Light beer cans strewed on every trail here too. I started out working in the south, Louisiana, Texas, West Virginia, Wyoming, The UP, Oregon etc. In every one of them I found people that could make the cast on "Deliverance" look like choir boys. It`s all about labeling and hateing others to make yourself feel better about yourself.
 
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