Best ammo for my Sheild 9mm, Hollow Points?

As others have stated pick something and test it. If it functions properly, then carry it. All current SD ammo will do the job, just don't use FMJ, use SD hollow point or hollow point with penetrating tip...........

Agree, although with some other calibers I might argue about FMJ......32 acp and 380 acp for instance.

With the Shield I will pick up next week, I ordered 50 rounds of Speer Gold Dot 124 JHP (not the +P) for carry and 200 rounds of PMC 124 FMJ for training/wear-in. I like the GD as its gotten good, if not stellar reviews, and I can buy it in a 50 round box for what I consider a decent price. I plan to practice with it enough to see if it feels and hits the same POI as the PMC ammo. I am also considering picking up a box of Perfecta 9mm 115 gr FMJ ammo just to see how it works.....not expecting a lot at $13.95 for 50 rounds, but who knows? And of course I still have about 400 rounds of my own reloads from my IDPA days....it's loaded a bit light however, and I don't want to try it until I'm sure the Shield functions properly with commercial ammo.
 
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I prefer Gold Dots the most but finding them hasn't been the easiest. I reload my own cartridges and finding good components has been rough.


I just ordered a 50 round box of 124 gr non +P Speer Gold Dot JHP from LuckyGunner yesterday. Plenty in stock there. I've about given up on getting ammo locally, no matter for what, other than the occasionally good deal at Wal-Mart or the sporting good stores like Academy, Bass Pro, etc for practice/plinking.

I re-load also, but have not since about 2000. (Was that REALLY 14 years ago!!) I was shooting IDPA at the time, but my department switched from 9 to 40 about that time, and I put away my 9mms for a while. Now I am back to EDC again and fine that I want to carry a Shield-type pistol. I decided it makes sense to carry a 9mm simply due to the availability of 9mm ammo.......it's getting weird and dangerous out there!:eek:
 
Probably the best primer on SD ammo I have seen... Best to draw your own conclusions.. Sometimes the biggest and fastest is not always the best...

Ammunition For The Self-Defense Firearm


"The top rated 9mm Luger load for self-defense is the Cor-Bon 9mm 115 grain +P Jacketed Hollowpoint. It is the most street-proven manstopper available in this caliber. It is a high velocity (1350 fps) and high pressure round, more effective than loads restricted to law enforcement use, such as the Federal 9BPLE."

Is that so? Surprised me!

I think the article is quite outdated, among other things. I don't doubt the Corbon's performance in gel as excellent but the "most street-proven manstopper available in this caliber' I seriously doubt. And my experience with Corbon is that it's 'hot' with substantial recoil.

My choices- HST (any weight, standard or +P) or Speer GD 124gr +P, with preference for the HST- believe that it penetrates better.

Note: I have been left with a 'general impression' that the 124gr GDHP in standard pressure is nothing to rave about, whereas the +P version is 'adequate'. OTOH, this is not an issue, apparently, with the HST standard or +P pressures- all are supposedly outstanding penetrators with uniform expansion in test media.

However, the GD has purportedly more 'street smarts' and I've read many times that it's also the carry load for the NYPD.
 
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My wife and I both carry the Shield 9mm, love it and I think you will too. We carry Gold Dot 124 Grain in them. Great ammo and our guns fire them with no problem. Try some different rounds and choose the one your gun shoots without fail, and you can shoot accurately.
 
SIG 9mm

I've never had an issue with SD ammo in my Shield regardless of the brand or caliber. I rarely have any problems with target ammo either.That said, like others I have hundreds of rounds to choose from regarding HP in different weights and have been using the new Sig 9mm and .380 with good results. Cabela's have it for 16.99 per box and it feeds very well with no issues in quality. I'm sure the expensive ammo is well worth the money but I prefer to wait for a good price and get whats affordable to train with.That said, I've got ammo from nearly all manufacturers but it's sitting in storage while I take advantage of the surplus of FMJ.
 
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My choices- HST (any weight, standard or +P) or Speer GD 124gr +P, with preference for the HST- believe that it penetrates better.

Note: I have been left with a 'general impression' that the 124gr GDHP in standard pressure is nothing to rave about, whereas the +P version is 'adequate'. OTOH, this is not an issue, apparently, with the HST standard or +P pressures- all are supposedly outstanding penetrators with uniform expansion in test media.

However, the GD has purportedly more 'street smarts' and I've read many times that it's also the carry load for the NYPD.

Well, I'd hate to give the NYPD credit for using a good round for SD! :rolleyes: Unfortunately, many departments chose ammo for reasons that officers do not particularly think are important!:eek: But having said that, I think on balance I'll stick with the 9mm Speer Gold Dot in standard velocity; unless of course it proves unsuitable in my Shield. I plan to practice a bit with that round, and its cost is very attractive to me. I also have probably non-justified mistrust of +P ammo.....maybe I'm just more recoil sensitive, but I tend to avoid things that I THINK MIGHT do eventual damage....like I said, probably unjustified, but that's me.:cool:

I don't need the "most effective" 9mm SD round, just something that works well in my pistol, isn't too expensive for practice, and has adequate terminal performance. Life's a compromise, eh?:cool:
 
I've never had an issue with SD ammo in my Shield regardless of the brand or caliber. I rarely have any problems with target ammo either.That said, like others I have hundreds of rounds to choose from regarding HP in different weights and have been using the new Sig 9mm and .380 with good results. Cabela's have it for 16.99 per box and it feeds very well with no issues in quality. I'm sure the expensive ammo is well worth the money but I prefer to wait for a good price and get whats affordable to train with.That said, I've got ammo from nearly all manufacturers but it's sitting in storage while I take advantage of the surplus of FMJ.

Which ammo for $16.99 per box? Just curious. I picked up three 50 round boxes of 9mm 115 gr FMJ "Perfecta" brand at Wally World yesterday for $45 with taxes. Heard a few good comments about them online, and only heard negatives on the Perfecta 40 cal ammo (so far). I also picked up a 50 round box of 55gr FMJ 223 ammo by the same company, for I think $20 including tax.
 
The SIG 9 mm HP is available for 16.99 at Cabela's. SportsmanGuide.com has been offering plenty of HP,FMJ in 9 mm for great prices. Academy Sports sells ammo online now and have had a great choice too. I rarely buy at walmart since better ammo is available online.
 
Ammo for the rest of us?

Not every user rises to the level of law enforcement, military or is otherwise an expert. In selecting ammo for the Shield it seems relatively clear that Federal HST hits the sweet spot based upon videos.

However, in testing self defense ammo for my Shield, Beretta PX4 Storm full size with 4" barrel, Sprinfield XDM 4.5" and a Sig Sauer P938 3" (all 9mm) in magazines ranging from 6 to 18 bullets, it's relatively impossible to go to the range and end up always knowing what brand/model/load etc. is loaded in the half dozen or more magazine as time goes on.

I find it quite easy to end up with magazines with mixed bullets in part because the manufacturers do not fully identify their bullets. While the information may not fit all around the primer, is there a reason why they cannot add the models, loads and any other relevant information on the side of the cartridge? It certainly would not affect the flight of the bullet.

Obviously someone who has the money to buy a few hundred rounds of each high end bullet and the ability and inclination to set up their own range in the woods with unlimited time might be able to do so, but that is probably the vast minority off shooters. Also, not everyone has the skill to group rounds or interpret their groupings based upon the brands and the other variables including distance, the gel mix, four layers of denim, sheet rock vs. dry wall, wind conditions and the fact that the attacker may raise their hand in their own defense. Why not at least provide the specifications to the consumer who just may end up with multiple brands loaded in his magazine?

I really hope the response is not based upon "if you can't tell, you shouldn't be shooting." If everyone knew the answer from their own experience or testing, all the video test sites would go u viewed. Even then, with Ammoquest the Federal HST is the clear winner but LE chooses different bullets for penetration vs. self defense. How many Manufacturers indicate Critical Duty, LE or Self Defense around the primer? Tires have much more in the way of specs.

Then if you even think you reached a conclusion, does that mean you "waste" the rest of your inventory at the range on Zombie targets since the first shot you ever have to take may be your last shot? Those bullets will theoretically have different characteristics which is why you were testing in the first place. (It seems that the mechanical compatibility of a bullet with your gun is the most testable factor).
 
The SIG 9 mm HP is available for 16.99 at Cabela's. SportsmanGuide.com has been offering plenty of HP,FMJ in 9 mm for great prices. Academy Sports sells ammo online now and have had a great choice too. I rarely buy at walmart since better ammo is available online.


That's 20 rounds of the SIG ammo HP for $16.99, right? That's a very nice price for HP ammo. I'll have to check into that. I just paid $28.50 for a box of fifty Gold Dot 124 gr HP (not including shipping; I order several other boxes of PMC 124 gr FMJ practice ammo <$15.50/50 rounds> to ameliorate that cost). I thought that was an excellent price for 50 rounds but the SIG price is about the same.

I'd like to hear how the SIG ammo works out for those of you shooting it. I bought 150 rounds of Perfecta 115 gr FMJ ($45 at Wal-Mart) to try. Not sure who makes those rounds, but it's brass cased at least, and looks very good. If it functions in my Shield and prints close to the Gold Dot I will probably buy a case of the Perfecta....I've heard nothing negative about it yet.
 
Sig ammo 9mm HP- gross overpenetrator in denim

The SIG 9 mm HP is available for 16.99 at Cabela's. SportsmanGuide.com has been offering plenty of HP,FMJ in 9 mm for great prices. Academy Sports sells ammo online now and have had a great choice too. I rarely buy at walmart since better ammo is available online.

Aside: I do like that YouTuber 'shootingthebull' (AmmoQuest) seems to fire four or five bullets in both bare gel and denim, and uses actual gelatin testing in one or the other.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdRktq_-OU0
 
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50-rd boxes of HST

At SG ammo I recently paid $25.95/box HST 9mm 124gr and $32.95/box HST 45acp 230gr.

'Do the math' for a truly excellent line of SD ammo.

These were prices for 50-rd boxes.

Say one only orders two boxes at a time. The shipping for me was $12.00, and no tax.

It might be smart to order in quantity for all your calibers, resulting in less cost per cartridge when one factors in shipping cost, even with an increase in it for the heavier weight.
 
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I've been getting the Sig at a few places for under 19.00 depending on sale price. Cabela's has been good with in stock and price for several months. Thanks for the video.
 
I've been getting the Sig at a few places for under 19.00 depending on sale price. Cabela's has been good with in stock and price for several months. Thanks for the video.

With tax, that comes to ~$1.00/rd.- 20-rd box, correct?
 
The Winchester RA9B has done very well in actual shootings...I don't carry a 9, but have tested it in a couple of my guns, and it was reliable, and accurate. I'd be happy to carry it based upon both the test results, and real-world shooting. Supposedly the new Speer Gold Dot 2 Government 147GR bonded JHP is going to be even better...be interesting to see if that ever makes it to the commercial market.
 
The Winchester RA9B has done very well in actual shootings...I don't carry a 9mm but have tested it in a couple of my guns, and it was reliable, and accurate. I'd be happy to carry it based upon both the test results, and real-world shooting. Supposedly the new Speer Gold Dot 2 Government 147GR bonded JHP is going to be even better...be interesting to see if that ever makes it to the commercial market.

My problem with tests that indicate which loads are best for LEO use always take into consideration factors I do not find important for carry a gun as a civilian for self defense. Things such as the ability to penetrate car bodies/windscreens, etc. That was one requirement I remember when I was a PO, which was a while back, but our issues 9mm ammo was the Winchester Black Talon in 147gr. I believe that's close in performance to the Winchester round you mention. I never fired that round while a PO other than in training, and it was an accurate and well functioning round, and low in recoil....at least for punching holes in paper in worked flawlessly!:cool: I carried that round off duty (8 yrs ago), and I still have a few boxes of it in the house which I occasionally carry when I carry a 9mm pistol. I plan to function test it in the Shield sometime later this month, mainly to verify it's still "good" and works in my pistol. I do like the 147 gr bullets, mainly for their low recoil and low noise....but they do print a little higher than some of the lighter bullets at longer ranges (like 25 yards).....which most likely would never be an issue for a non-LEO.
 
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