* * Ebola Discussion

[old bear]

Latest from CNN, healthcare worker, is believed to have been contaminated when removing P.P.E. at end of shift.
Perhaps then need a two person team, with check list to be followed step by step, when putting on or removing P.P.E. Something along the lines commercial pilots use.

 

[Ματθιας]

Earlier this year, the US and Euro governments restricted flights in and out of Israel for "national security" reasons.

Now, we/they have a REAL national security threat, but those same governments won't issue travel bans to the West African countries ravaged by ebola. Why? I think we know.

 

[ladder13]

One issue that has not been fully discussed or documented is how exactly to prove an environment (surfaces, equipment, supplies,etc....)has or have been effectively decontaminated. This IMHO, is a much bigger issue than actually caring for someone who clearly has the disease.

I heard one of the talking head gov't doctor's saying that things such as contracting Ebola via contact with keyboards, door knobs, etc is all "hypothetical".
I feel so much better knowing this.

 

[labworm]

I heard one of the talking head gov't doctor's saying that things such as contracting Ebola via contact with keyboards, door knobs, etc is all "hypothetical".
I feel so much better knowing this.

Alcoa closed at 14.71 Friday, they may be involved.

 

[ibewbull]

SMILE for a minute.

Alcoa closed at 14.71 Friday, they may be involved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p7A-T7D-sg

 

[Comrad]

You know there is an acceptable number of deaths that we'll tolerate until we get serious, wonder what that number is.

I threw some extra canned goods in the basket today and will not be squandering ammo just punching paper until I see where this thing is going.

I have visions of going to my BO place to ride it out.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

I heard one of the talking head gov't doctor's saying that things such as contracting Ebola via contact with keyboards, door knobs, etc is all "hypothetical".
I feel so much better knowing this.

I guess the hazmat team dispatched to the healthcare worker's apartment complex were hypothetically decontaminating all the public areas of the complex, handrails and parking lot... Hypothetically.

 

[ladder13]

Latest out of the CDC.
"we're deeply concerned"

CDC Head Warns Additional Ebola Cases Possible in Coming Days | Watch XFINITY Videos Online | News | Comcast

 

[Out West]

The Ebola genie has escaped its bottle. I am afraid that the US has mishandled it from the very start. And now, to compound the problem, we are sending 4,000 soldiers to Africa to help stuff the genie back into its bottle. If the powers that be decide we need to sustain that effort, more troops will be sent into fray. Unfortunately this enemy is invulnerable to M4's, SAWs or grenades. These poor troops are being sent to fight a battle for which they have no appropriate tools or training. What are the chances that they can avoid exposure? And if they do contract the disease, how can they be helped?

I'm no xenophobe, but because of the infectious threat posed Ebola, we should have stopped flights into the US from any African country with reported Ebola cases. Too late now. What is worse, we are now tempting fate by sending our fine troops into the disease nexus. I want to conclude with a word that is prohibited on the forum.

Out
West

 

[rburg]

The experts were telling us what to believe, and that they knew how to handle the outbreak. Now it turns out they're wrong. I'm not sure why we should believe other things they saw. Its my best guess that they're wrong about other things. Worse, we don't know if they're intentionally lying or if they just don't know. Or both. Believing a government spokesman telling us to be calm and that they've got it under control is anything but settling. They've now got a reputation for either lying or just being dead wrong. Why should we trust anything they say until they earn a reputation (over time) of being correct? I think maybe I should start reloading in more volume.

Will someone remind me when the last time a government spokesman did more good than harm? Do you believe anything the head of our government or the CDC says? Are you that gullible?

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Why is he deeply concerned? Isn't everyone nodding in approval of everything he says... what could go wrong?

 

[Ματθιας]

Reuters is reporting that a person who recently returned from Liberia is being evaluated in a Boston Hospital after showing Ebola symptoms.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/12/us-health-ebola-massachusetts-idUSKCN0I10UZ20141012

Unbelievable! Stop the flights in and out of those west african countries!

 

[ladder13]

Why is he deeply concerned?

We(some) don't believe the BS?

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

CDC head honcho says restricting travel between the U.S. and West Africa would likely "backfire" and put Americans more at risk of contracting Ebola.

So.... If you wish to keep Ebola out of the America, the smart thing to do is fly every day hundreds of people from Ebola ravaged areas of the world into America. Epidemiology at its finest.

 

[GaryS]

There are procedures for donning and doffing PPE that are pretty clear. The problem is that people like to take short cuts. We'd run into that during HazMat drills. People would take short cuts, but swear that they would follow the procedures during a "real" situation. Of course, you perform as you practice.

Which seems to be a problem at Dallas Presbyterian.

The Boston case is interesting, but it's too early to say what it really is.

I'm in favor of travel restrictions from west Africa. It's really a prudent move. I'll stop there because any further and I might tread into political territory.

Latest from CNN, healthcare worker, is believed to have been contaminated when removing P.P.E. at end of shift.
Perhaps then need a two person team, with check list to be followed step by step, when putting on or removing P.P.E. Something along the lines commercial pilots use.

 

[James&theGiant1911]

I was in training to be in the medical field and had to take blood readings from a TB patient. I was 100 percent aware of everything going on and what I was doing. I did not get TB but I saw lots of careless people in different roles who were just as careless. Remember a C- doctor is called a doctor just like an A+ student.

 

[LVSteve]

CDC head honch says restricting travel between the U.S. and West Africa would likely "backfire" and put Americans more at risk of contracting Ebola.

In the words of many in this city, "Que?"

 

[Speedo2]

I'm starting to wonder what the rest of the world is doing. Other country's preventative measures don't seem to be getting much attention from the televised talking heads. Surely the USA is not the only country that West Africans travel to and from. I'll agree that we should be mostly concerned with the homeland at this time, but unless we're a deliberate target from which all others have been effectively isolated, then there may be things that we could learn from others.

Duncan traveled through Belgium prior entering the US. I have family there. I'm not panicking yet, but I am starting to pay attention. This whole thing does reek of having been mishandled, behaviors which are still in progress. -S2

 

[nawilson]

CDC head honcho says restricting travel between the U.S. and West Africa would likely "backfire" and put Americans more at risk of contracting Ebola.

So.... If you wish to keep Ebola out of the America, the smart thing to do is fly every day hundreds of people from Ebola ravaged areas of the world into America. Epidemiology at its finest.

There is a certain category of person for whom cause and effect is... fuzzy. They seem to believe that their desires drive the effects more than their actions. The scary part is when these people are put in decision making positions.

What scares me is the possibility of the ebola virus mutating into something more easily transmitted.

 

[GatorFarmer]

I'm starting to wonder what the rest of the world is doing. Other country's preventative measures don't seem to be getting much attention from the televised talking heads. Surely the USA is not the only country that West Africans travel to and from. I'll agree that we should be mostly concerned with the homeland at this time, but unless we're a deliberate target from which all others have been effectively isolated, then there may be things that we could learn from others.

South Africa and neighboring countries have their borders closed to anyone from Liberia, Sierra Leone, or Guinea. They allow heir own citizens to return from these countries, in some cases into quarantine.

During the outbreak in Nigeria, Nigerians traveling to China were greeted by Chinese authorities in biohazard suits who took their temperature and in some cases sprayed them with disinfectant.

Watch to see what the Russians opt to do. Putin cares about his people.