Thinking of buying an M&P 15 TS

I don't like guns that come with magpul. The secondary market to buy it used or new from another manufacturer is so much lower than the up charge they put on the gun. I only got the magpul moe because my mil discount made it cost effective...I just realized I need to do the rebate
 
It certainly is a lot of coin. But it's a free float (if you like that) and comes with Magpul and Troy accessories.

The MBUS sights are just that, back up sights. A good scope or better sights should do the trick.

Maybe, I don't know. I just don't get the economics of this gun.

A $550 Sport with a $250 Wilson Combat trigger and $370 Aimpoint PRO would make a heck of a nice rifle and still have money left over to shop around for a FF handguard.
 
Maybe, I don't know. I just don't get the economics of this gun.

A $550 Sport with a $250 Wilson Combat trigger and $370 Aimpoint PRO would make a heck of a nice rifle and still have money left over to shop around for a FF handguard.

I don't know either. With $1,300 in my pocket I would go a different route. But that's just my personal opinion...
 
Maybe, I don't know. I just don't get the economics of this gun.

A $550 Sport with a $250 Wilson Combat trigger and $370 Aimpoint PRO would make a heck of a nice rifle and still have money left over to shop around for a FF handguard.
Similar but not so great analogy. Spending that much on a "lower" end gun are like people who buy beater cars and put more into stereo and rims than the worth of the car. Obviously with guns it's a bit different as the value is kinda still there and it's not like a sport is necessarily a "beater" car. More like a barebones Mercedes with Manual locks and windows
 
Similar but not so great analogy. Spending that much on a "lower" end gun are like people who buy beater cars and put more into stereo and rims than the worth of the car. Obviously with guns it's a bit different as the value is kinda still there and it's not like a sport is necessarily a "beater" car. More like a barebones Mercedes with Manual locks and windows

Trigger and optic are fundamental to any rifle. The shooter will benefit from a quality trigger and optic on a Sport every bit as much as on a TS or any AR.
 
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Agreed. But what kind of trigger/optic/etc really depends on the purpose.

Right, but that is beside the point.

An optic or trigger doesn't become any more or less worthwhile mounted on either rifle. For example, the notion that an Aimpoint is somehow inherently mismatched on a $600 Sport, and is more suited to a $1300 TS doesn't wash. That was how I read the wheels/car argument being made earlier.

To your point, yes. Either may be used for nothing but a range toy and a dime store optic may be well suited. Or both may be designated as a go-to self defense gun where a top shelf optic is better suited.
 
O.P., congratulations on your VTAC II purchase. I own the M & P TS and it's a fine rifle, however, as a retired military via BudsPoliceSupply.com it only cost a little over $900 (w/M & P Finest Rebate). If I recall correctly a VTAC II was a little over $1.3k. BudsPoliceSupply.com.

In any case, the VTAC II should be a fine multiple purpose rife. Enjoy!
 
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