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It's hard to imagine that it's been fifteen years since millions of people woke up relieved (and some badly disappointed) that the beginning of the new century didn't crash all the computers and bring down society.

I remember that all the gun rags, which already were pretty much owned outright by the manufacturers who did the most advertising with them, ran feature articles for months before the turn of the century, advising people to stock up on weapons and ammo to fend off savage hordes of looters and other predators who wanted to rape their guns and steal their women, or something. If I recall correctly, some of these articles had pretty specific recommendations about which weapons and ammunition would be best suited to defense against the collapse. Oddly enough these sometimes were reflected in large ads in those editions. Or so I recall, but my memory isn't what it used to be.

I'm not at all making light of the possibility of things coming unstuck, but in retrospect that panic was vastly overblown.

Sure, I stayed up well past midnight to see if the world as we knew it ended. Today I try to keep an adequate supply of food, etc., in case of a cataclysmic natural disaster. But it's amusing to look back at 01/01/2000 and remember the dire predictions of the self-ordained pundits.

The older I get the more I realize how much like my father I am. Dad was never an alarmist. He believed in prudent preparedness but not panic.

That's me.
 
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Back then I knew nothing about computers. But I was smart enough to realize there were billion dollar companies who would do whatever was necessary to avoid this catastrophy. I knew people who were sure the power was going to go dark. All I did was get some cash out of the ATM because I figured all those alarmists would empty them in anticipation of the end.
I wonder if there were a lot of good deals on rifles, ammo and generators in the first months of the year.
Jim
 
I vividly remember my FFL (Class 3 guy too) searching for bulk 9mm and .223 for his customers. Those two calibers became scarce, so .45 ACP was the next logical caliber to buy. A shipment with 200,000 rounds of .223/5.56 finally came in from Israel ... it was sold out in a week. I also recall most people in my gun circle opting for semi-autos and ARs exclusively, eschewing anything else. I was young and got caught up in it as much as I could afford to, but nowhere near what others did. Not much different than the panic of 2013, except that .22 ammo did not command the same % price increase.
 
Back then I knew nothing about computers. But I was smart enough to realize there were billion dollar companies who would do whatever was necessary to avoid this catastrophy. I knew people who were sure the power was going to go dark. All I did was get some cash out of the ATM because I figured all those alarmists would empty them in anticipation of the end.
I wonder if there were a lot of good deals on rifles, ammo and generators in the first months of the year.
Jim

I don't remember for sure, but I'd bet those deals were out there. :)
 
A lot of money was spent updating aging electronic infrastructure which I think was a good investment, investments we need to continue making. The three national power grids are extremely vulnerable. A government agency, in response to a FOIA request, accidentally released a 600 page report detailing where the grid is vulnerable and how to attack it.
 
Maybe we should all stock up on this stuff. I read some nasty country, either Russia or North Korea, has an EMP.
That could shut down a large portion of the country.
I ain't gonna worry about it though. I can step out in my back yard and shoot dinner.:cool:
Jim
 
It's hard to imagine that it's been fifteen years since millions of people woke up relieved (and some badly disappointed) that the beginning of the new century didn't crash all the computers and bring down society.

I remember that all the gun rags, which already were pretty much owned outright by the manufacturers who did the most advertising with them, ran feature articles for months before the turn of the century, advising people to stock up on weapons and ammo to fend off savage hordes of looters and other predators who wanted to rape their guns and steal their women, or something. If I recall correctly, some of these articles had pretty specific recommendations about which weapons and ammunition would be best suited to defense against the collapse. Oddly enough these sometimes were reflected in large ads in those editions. Or so I recall, but my memory isn't what it used to be.

I'm not at all making light of the possibility of things coming unstuck, but in retrospect that panic was vastly overblown.

Sure, I stayed up well past midnight to see if the world as we knew it ended. Today I try to keep an adequate supply of food, etc., in case of a cataclysmic natural disaster. But it's amusing to look back at 01/01/2000 and remember the dire predictions of the self-ordained pundits.

The older I get the more I realize how much like my father I am. Dad was never an alarmist. He believed in prudent preparedness but not panic.

That's me.



There was most definitely a bunch of hype involved.

At the time I was involved in fixing US Navy computer/weapons systems glitches, and the problems were real. Not likely would have caused unplanned launches, but quite likely the systems would not have functioned when required - that would have been a REAL problem. :eek:
 
After reading the op I started to remember how all that went down here. I was still working for a major oil refinery and everyone was in a near panic. All the hot shots down town were scratchin' their heads and running around like chickens with their heads cut off.

All the hoarders were stockpiling all the cash, water, ice, non perishable food stuffs and especially gasoline and ammo that they could get their hands on. I got a modest supply of ice and canned goods, filled up all the gas tanks of our vehicles and took a couple hundred dollars out of the bank but I didn't go nuts. I already had a kit if ammo. Lots people were buying all the gas cans they could find and cleaning out their bank accounts etc.

It never ceases to amaze me how easily and totally some people can freak out. It is every bit as easily and common and predictable and dangerous as the "stampede" syndrome in cattle.

My way has always been modest, thoughtful preparations and planning on staying put unless it is just not possible.
 
Maybe we should all stock up on this stuff. I read some nasty country, either Russia or North Korea, has an EMP.
That could shut down a large portion of the country.
I ain't gonna worry about it though. I can step out in my back yard and shoot dinner.:cool:
Jim

Any nucleat blast in the atmosphere will cause EMP, they can do it to us, we can do it to them. You can shield or harden your systems against it but if the attacker ups the power of the blast defenses can be over powered. Thatis on a nnational level.

Individuals can shield some electronics with Farraday cages but what do you protect and to what level? How many resources can you expend to protect another resource? Especially when the resources you expend in protection might be over powered by the attack and you lose everything anyway.
 
After reading the op I started to remember how all that went down here. I was still working for a major oil refinery and everyone was in a near panic. All the hot shots down town were scratchin' their heads and running around like chickens with their heads cut off.

All the hoarders were stockpiling all the cash, water, ice, non perishable food stuffs and especially gasoline and ammo that they could get their hands on. I got a modest supply of ice and canned goods, filled up all the gas tanks of our vehicles and took a couple hundred dollars out of the bank but I didn't go nuts. I already had a kit if ammo. Lots people were buying all the gas cans they could find and cleaning out their bank accounts etc.

It never ceases to amaze me how easily and totally some people can freak out. It is every bit as easily and common and predictable and dangerous as the "stampede" syndrome in cattle.

My way has always been modest, thoughtful preparations and planning on staying put unless it is just not possible.

Some here did the same thing. I had a neighbor who spent most of his meager income buyuing loads of batteries,dried food this and that,spare flashlights etc--forY-2-K. He tried to get me to start buying gallon cans of dried fods--I bought one--acan ofpowdered eggs. I had a use for those. anyway,he could never understand why I wanted only one flashlight (he had about 30) one pack of batteries--he had a tub full of diff sized batteries) he had about 20 other tubs stuffed full of powdered this and that--and other things that were supposed to be food. He even had a gun within 8 feet of whereever he was at in his home. However--he only had ammo for his revolver and one for his Winchester--one lousy box of each. For at leasta year--he tried getting me to waste my money on that stuff,but I wasted it on other things--like my then Girlfriend--and buying WWII German militaria and such. :D
 
Back then I was old enough to buy rifles and shotguns buy not handguns. Funny thing though I didn't care. I couldn't understand what the date difference would be to a computer since they weren't around for 1900.
 
The local water district pumped a lot of water into all kinds of strange storage places in late '99 just in case the Y2K bug took out the pumping system from Lake Mead.
 
I remember being at the Flea Market, a man had a huge setup, generators, food etc. Asked him a few questions and he became semi hostile.:eek:

I got home and decided to make a good Act Of Contrition:) just in case. Well, as everyone knows, we are all still here kickin.:)
 

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