I forgot to mention (in all fairness) that I also purchased Galloway's extended take down levers and really like them. Just enough width to allow me to get a good grip. They don't seem to be quite as well finished as the extended levers I have purchased for my Glocks (Brownells & Lone Wolf), but they works just as well. A nice addition for people with large hands (or small hands).
Galloway Precision Trigger Kits
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Is that Galloway sear spring by itself a good match with the Apex spring kit?
Also my Apex spring kit came with a trigger spring that had felt padding in it just like the factory spring trigger. The Apex tutorial video showed that their trigger spring did NOT have any felt in it which is why he filled it with lithium grease? Anyone care to shed light on this?
Also my Apex spring kit came with a trigger spring that had felt padding in it just like the factory spring trigger. The Apex tutorial video showed that their trigger spring did NOT have any felt in it which is why he filled it with lithium grease? Anyone care to shed light on this?
The Apex video has an overlay (or a comment, forgot which) that says they now use a felt insert.
Thanks for those replies. I'm glad I didn't just get a factory part from an aftermarket company. After the installation of both polymer trigger and spring kit. I'm happy. Even though I had to file the heck out of that trigger. The back of it looks real Mickey Mouse but it works. I'll make it look pretty later on. Still feels a bit spongy. Anyone know how to get rid of that?
when you slowly pull the trigger does the right side of the poly frame push outward ?
If it does (which most do) the trigger arm is pushing on it sideways, not straight back as it should.
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when you slowly pull the trigger does the right side of the poly frame push outward ?
If it does (which most do) the trigger arm is pushing on it sideways, not straight back as it should.
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They all do that except for guns where the owner has bent the forward prong on the trigger bar inward to push the center instead of the edge of the striker blocker. That may affect the S&W warranty, don't know.
In my case I simply smoothed the outside of the trigger bar and put some grease between the bar and the frame. Solved the problem for me.
Keep in mind that there is a slight gap where the trigger bar pushes the sear and that can cause a sort of unusual feel at the beginning of trigger pull.
He asked if anyone knew how to get rid of the spongy feeling in the trigger.
Since the trigger bar actually bends outward (spongy feeling) as you said, you have to bend stuff a little.
The trigger bar should be thicker and not bend or push outward when you pull the trigger trying to make it's way around the striker block.
They should have made it where the prong does go over the center of the striker block to begin with instead of rubbing and pushing on the frame which adds to a crappier trigger.
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Since the trigger bar actually bends outward (spongy feeling) as you said, you have to bend stuff a little.
The trigger bar should be thicker and not bend or push outward when you pull the trigger trying to make it's way around the striker block.
They should have made it where the prong does go over the center of the striker block to begin with instead of rubbing and pushing on the frame which adds to a crappier trigger.
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I polished the right side of the trigger bar and it is very smooth without the slide attached. The sponginess occurs when I dry fire with the gun fully assembled. I haven't tried applying any grease to the trigger bar.
Should I slight bend it? Sounds scary.
Should I slight bend it? Sounds scary.
Pull the magazine out and look up into the slide. As you pull the trigger you will see the forward prong on the trigger bar push the striker blocker. It hits the blocker along one edge and is pushed towards the frame. S&W knows this and apparently doesn't consider it to be a problem.
Some folks bend that prong to align with the center of the blocker.
I don't bend mine because it would probably void the lifetime warranty. I just grease the side of the trigger bar instead.
Not sure what you mean by "spongy" so maybe you can describe it in more detail.
Remember that there is a slight gap where the rear of the trigger bar hits the sear system. You can observe that by pulling the trigger with the slide off. Is that what you are feeling?
It just feels gritty like plastic rubbing together with metal. I'm hoping this isn't something that can't be fixed. I've emailed pictures and video over to Apex Tactical so I'm eager to hear what they'll say tomorrow. I function checked it and everything is working fine.
When the slide is on the sear engages the lug on the striker and pulls it further back, same as any double-action gun.
Try this - with the slide off, turn it upside down and pull the striker back with your fingernail.
How does that feel? Gritty?
YES! That is the grittiness I feel!
I figured it out. I had installed the striker spring stops backwards. That was causing the plastic on metal friction. I'm an idiot for doing that. There was a white sleeve that came out though that looks like it goes over the striker spring. However the Apex installation video doesn't show that ever. Anyone know what that white sleeve is or does??
Besides that, the trigger feels great. No friction. As smooth as butter. Thanks for the help!
Besides that, the trigger feels great. No friction. As smooth as butter. Thanks for the help!
Are there perhaps two pieces of plastic sleeve, one not removed?
Look at parts 35 and 6 in this Glock schematic.
http://www.brownells.com/schematics/Glock-/Models-17-42-sid858.aspx#r5sid858
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I believe the nylon sleeve is there to prevent metal to metal friction from the striker sliding in the striker channel. The longer sleeve just slides over the spring end of the striker assembly. The other nylon bushing is locked on until you disassemble the striker.
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Matt
i dropped the galloway kit in a older sigma 40. it took the trigger pull down to 6 pounds. then after several boxes of ammo shot the trigger got better. with my old lyman trigger pull scale puts it at around 5 pounds. not bad for a gun that was over 8 pounds. thinking about doing a second galloway kit for my second sigma 40.
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