City folks may need to stay in the city.

It's sad that some counties have felt the need to pass right to farm laws.

Two nieces visiting in MN from the DC area were amazed at all the "empty" land. The land where corn, beans, oats, wheat, etc were growing. Apparently the land where the pet cattle and pigs roam.

Hunting pheasants on a family farm, driving North to south, we ran into a neighbor kid (just moved in) with about 6 friends driving east to west in front of us. He had permission. My cousin had to explain to him that when HE has permission, he can count to 1, then stop.

The proper response to "when I lived..." is "feel free to move back.
 
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A while back there was a news story about Muslem group in Texas who bought land next to a ranch and built a Mosque. They complained about the smell to the local authorities and the cattle rancher. The authorities said they could do nothing and the rancher sold all of his cattle and started raising pigs!
 
Try a sheep farm after one or two of them have died(from a former sheep farmer w/nine years experience).

Andy
 
I can handle roosters, barking dogs- maybe.
But not downwind from a hog farm!
Big feed lots- same.
One time I got turned around in that big feed lot complex up near Greeley, CO and couldn't decide which way was the fastest way out.
I think I broke a world record for holding my breath.
 
I used to live in the boonies in England as a kid. We had family come out from The Smoke from time to time to stay with us and they complained bitterly about the birds' dawn chorus. "How do you sleep with all that noise at 5 AM?" Us looking confused or my dad failing to keep a straight face didn't help. ;)

Nature's alarm clock! :)
 
Heck we lived on the Eastern Shore of Md..Farm country..Had a small farm. Been in the family since 1947.. Those people from Philthydelphia and the Baltimorons and of course the Washington Idiots..well they kept movin down to the Eastern shore to get away from the city...and they brung it with 'em. Wife told me..we're moving!! I said..huh?? So we came to Wyoming. 10th largest state..least amount of people..Only a bit more than a 1/2 million in the whole state So we sold out there and bought a small ranch here. We have no state icome tax..sales taxes are low but we mostly shop in Montany(no sales tax at all) Property taxes are pretty darn low. We had 45 acres in Md..Taxes were 4500(10 yrs ago) Here we have under a 1000 acres..taxes are 1700. Nobody can build where we can see 'em. The county roads are mstly dirt. Some people from Calipornia moved in down the road 4 yrs ago..after a year they went to a county council meeting and asked when the county was gonna pave the county road?! They asked why they had moved here...and they said taxes were low and property was cheap. One of the council members asked 'em..why do you think that is?? We aren't going to pave that road..within a year..those people moved...to Colorado..or so I heard. I kinda hated to leave the Eastern shore of Md..my family has been there since the 1660s but it sure is easier to live here..anddid I mention..permitless carry?? This IS a gun friendly state...to say the least!!
 
I grew up in the country about half way between San Francisco and Sacramento. We had a creek that flowed thru our back yard that only had water in the winter and spring. During the spring it was full of little frogs that sang all night. We had a family that moved in upstream from San Francisco that could not stand the noise the frogs made. He talked about poisoning the frogs but we suggested he not do that. I now am stuck living in the city between 2 major freeways. The traffic never stops but it is just background noise now. I hear sirens several times a day. I do hear roosters crowing in the neighborhood and it does not bother me at all. I am envious of those of you that live in Rural America. When I was younger our address was Rural Route 1, Suisun, Calif. My dream was to retire back to the country but I now realize that will never happen. Now it is more important to live near good medical care and I am used to the city life. I have accepted my fate.
 
Wow! Nice story. Thank you for sharing. He was probably raised in a white collar family in the city. Everyone is different. :)
 
The range where I used to shoot 20 years ago was in the middle of nowhere, then the houses popped up all around it. The homeowners started to complain, got some lawyers and the range is now gone. Plus, they had to pay the cost of cleaning up all of the lead contamination.

Sad, but true, and all too common. Same thing happened to our range on Eastern L.I., NY. All sorts of complaints although the range had existed for decades. Don't know how it's turned out since I moved.

Kaaskop49
Shield #5103
 
Multiply Mr. Jason by 10 million and that is what has happened to much of Texas the last few decades. Only when 10 million move in they have enough votes to change the laws and culture. Soon those parts of Texas begin to look and feel like New York City, Mexico City, or Brazil. Eventually not just some county and city laws get changed, the entire state is lost.

The EXACT same thing has happened to Florida. :mad:

Which by the way, according to some sources has more cattle grazing than Texas. :cool:
 
I had some neighbors like what the OP described. They moved from the city into a big new house on ten acres that borders my property. Caught them once trespassing to see the deer in my woods as they must have thought they had some sort of right too or I'd never know. I guess they didn't expect I'd be out sitting in my blind, go figure.
Nice people as we attend the same Church as them but not suited for country living. They complained to my neighbor about his property and Scott wanting to be a good neighbor put up a privacy fence by his pole barn to hid his stuff. They also cut down some of his pine trees they didn't like looking at. I think they were over their head with a big mortgage and had the house up for sale a year and finally did sell and move out. I don't know the new people yet but hope they do better fitting in.
 
It ain't just the country. I delivered to a warehouse a couple of weeks ago that was situated next to an apartment complex. According to the warehouse manager, the apartments were built AFTER the warehouse, but there was a tenant that complained fairly frequently about the forklift and semi-truck noise. The warehouse doesn't open until 8:00 AM, so I'm not sure just how late she wants to sleep, but it seems like she should have considered the area around her apartment before signing a lease.
 
Williams Gun Sight has a range here that I sometimes go to. I'm not sure but think it was built in the 40s or sometime near that when there was nothing around for miles. Present day it has grown up all around them and now they get complaints about the noise and supposed errant rounds that have made it onto property beyond their range. Now there shooting stations are made such that you could hardly manage to raise a gun beyond their huge backstop if you tried to.
So far they've been able to keep the range open and have plans to build an indoor range this year. I don't know how much longer they'll be able to keep their range open but it maddens me every time I read in the paper how they are threatened with closure.
 
A very common theme here is suffering caused by the influx of newcomers. What a combination of ignorance and arrogance to not like where you were, move someplace else then try to change the new place to where it is like the place no one wants to live in. I came to Alaska in 1977 by way of Arizona from the midwest and would have seen way too much harm ful change. Hopefully "civilization" will leave us alone.
 
Faulkner's story would be humorous except for the sad fact that situations like this are becoming way too commonplace.

One of my brothers runs a hay ranch in a little town in northeastern Utah. The population in this community has doubled in the last fifteen years and is now at around 1,100 people. Most of the newcomers are from the cities, looking for a "quaint little place" in the country where they can get away from the hubbub of the city. Something that I call the "Green Acres Syndrome."

Anyway, several of these newcomers finagled their way onto the town's planning commission and immediately began passing ordinances regarding such things as to the number of chickens you could own to the number of cows and other livestock you could own...even down to the number of dogs you could own. (Remember, most of the dogs in this community are either stock dogs or hunting dogs. All of 'em work for their keep.) They were slowly trying to turn this rural community into the suburbs.

Fortunately, my brother and a couple of good ol' boys in the town got on the planning commission and put an end to that kind of nonsense real quick.

These folks move to the country with the mentality that they "don't like breathing anything they can't see" and proceed to turn a beautiful rural area into the metropolitan rat race that they left.

Like others here have said, why don't they just move back? Now, don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are a lot of city people who have moved to the country who are downright super. Unfortunately, there's also a good bunch of 'em who don't know manure from honey.
 
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Thought I'd share one of my latest adventures on the job;

"S.O. to Unit 4"

"Unit 4," I answered. It's early in the shift and things have been slow so far today.

"Unit 4, please go to 245 William's Ranch Road and see a Mr. Jason about a disturbance."

"10-4 S.O., I'm in route. ETA about 15 minutes. Can you advise what the disturbance is about?"

"Ah, Unit 4 . . . ah, standby."

After a couple of minutes with no additional communications I keyed the radio mic again, "Unit 4 to S.O., do you have additional info on the disturbance on William's Range Road?"

"S.O. to Unit 4, negative. Be advised that Unit 1" (i.e., the sheriff) "said to tell you to use your own discretion on this one."

What the heck? I wonder what the sheriff's involvement in this call is? Unlike some sheriff's departments, we put a lot of time and effort in training of our dispatchers and I'm always bragging on what a good job they do. They know better than to send a deputy off on any call, much less a disturbance call, without as much information as possible. Since the sheriff was directly involved I'm comfortable that they're not sending me in harm's way blindly, but still, a hint at what's going on would be nice.

About 10 minutes later I turn off the two lane Arkansas state highway onto county maintained Williams Ranch Road. This area for the past 25 years or so used to be cattle raising country, and before that it was row crop farm land, mainly cotton. The Williams family owned hundreds of acres for several generations, but the last batch of grown kids sold off most of the place to a developer who built some pretty nice houses on 5 acre plots in what used to be the farm.

When I found #245 on the mailbox I turned into the driveway of nice brick house, probably about 3,500 sq ft with a triple garage. I also noticed a pool around back. As I parked my patrol car and got out a gentleman came out the front door and greeted me. I walked around the front of my car and we shook hands.

"Hello, I'm Rick Jason." He was close to 40 years old, pretty fit, dressed in khaki's and a red golf shirt.

"Good morning Mr. Jason, I'm Deputy Faulkner. I was asked to come see you about a disturbance, how can I help you?"

"Deputy Faulkner, my wife and I moved here about three weeks ago. We wanted to get out of the city and enjoy the good life out in the country."

"Where are ya'll from Mr. Jason?" I asked

"We are originally from Memphis. I work for a financial firm and transferred to the Little Rock office but I actually do most of my work from home and long as I can get internet service."

I said, "ain't technology great when it works."

He looked at me with an odd look and replied, "well, yes, but getting reliable internet out here in the boonies has been a challenge."

With a smile I asked, "So, Mr. Jason, did you ask for someone from the sheriff's office to come help you with you with your internet service?"

"No, absolutely not. I've something much more serious than that troubling us. The people living over on that farm place over there have a bunch of farm animals and such." He pointed to the old Williams farm place, what was left of the original homestead. One of the Williams boys and his family were still living there on about 30 acres and running a few head of cattle.

"Okay, so what's the problem?" I persisted.

"Every morning before daylight there is a God awful racket when first one, then two, then half a dozen roosters start crowing. They keep at it sometimes for an hour or so. My wife and I have tried to ignore it or just get used to it, but it has become intolerable."

I just stared at him for what must have been half a minute . . . thinking. This is what the sheriff meant when he told the dispatcher to tell me to use my own discretion.

"Mr. Jason, did you go speak to Mr. Williams about his roosters disturbing you and your wife?"

"I did," he answered.

"And?"

"He didn't seem too receptive to resolving the issue. In fact, he laughed at me. I told him I was going to call the sheriff's office and he said to go ahead. So here we are."

"Well, Mr. Jason, I gotta tell you, there is no law against roosters crowing out in the county. In fact, it's what roosters do. Country folks keep them around on purpose so they'll start crowing around daylight. It's like when you move into a house next to an airport you have to expect to hear airplanes flying about. So when you move in next to a farm you are likely to hear barnyard animals making noises. Also, I hate to tell you this, but when summertime gets here and things warm up a bit you'll have the pleasure of smelling those barnyard animals too, especially in the evening when you and you're family are sitting around the pool out back." I pointed over to the Williams' barn and continued, "best I can tell they don't have any hogs, but the cattle have an aroma all their own."

"Good Lord, I didn't even think of that! What . . . what can you do about it?"

"Me?" I said. "I have no intention of doing anything about it, there are no laws being broken here. The way I see it you have two options. #1, you and the Mrs. can suck it up and assimulate to country living, or #2, you can pack up and move to town."

He just stood there looking at me for a long while. Finally I said, "Mr. Jason, is there anything else I can do for you this morning?"

"No, no I guess not. Thank you for coming out."

"You're welcome!" I shook his hand and left.

About a week later I was in the area and decided to patrol down Williams Range Road. As I passed by Mr. Jason's home I notced a "for sale" sign in the front yard.


Yet another example of why all police should be required to wear body cameras!

Reading your story was entertaining and funny. But to see Mr. Jason's face as you explained the reality of the situation would have been priceless!;)
 

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