City folks may need to stay in the city.

Williams Gun Sight has a range here that I sometimes go to. I'm not sure but think it was built in the 40s or sometime near that when there was nothing around for miles. Present day it has grown up all around them and now they get complaints about the noise and supposed errant rounds that have made it onto property beyond their range. Now there shooting stations are made such that you could hardly manage to raise a gun beyond their huge backstop if you tried to.
So far they've been able to keep the range open and have plans to build an indoor range this year. I don't know how much longer they'll be able to keep their range open but it maddens me every time I read in the paper how they are threatened with closure.

I will say ONE thing about Illinois and the last time the voters there used some common sense and elected a Republican Governor. Jim Thompson grandfathered all the shooting ranges in Illinois while in office in retaliation to the disgusting and unwarranted closing of the trap and skeet fields overlooking Lake Michigan in Chicago.
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Back in the 70's a fella bought bunch of land out in the boonies and built a nice race track. Then some developer folks bought some of this cheap land and started building houses. Folks who bought the houses next to a race track started complaining, put mufflers on them loud things, too much noise coming and going after races, dust, and entirely too many people drinking beer watchin racin and having a good time. It's gotta stop.

They pitched in for an attorney and after a few years the track owner went broke. I was by there a few years back, all they have is 40 year old homes with an abandoned race track for a yard ornament.

All I know is if I did not want to live next to a race track I wouldn't buy there.

And I lived in the big city for the last 20 years of my career. Hated it, loud cars, neighbors loudly crowing about something, one guy had 4 large dogs penned up, the barnyard smelt better. Cats, cats and more cats, come do their business in my wife's flower gardens and dig stuff up.

The home next to us was foreclosed, 7 years old, a woman bought it to flip it, the bubble had burst and she was stuck with renting it. She could find the deadbeats. The next to last one had 4 or more cats. She let them run loose, city code said no pets are to run loose. Folks called on her garden ruining cats, the dog pound guy showed up, he was 5'5" by 5'5". He tried to bend over to pick something up and couldn't bend over. He feigned stupidity on how to catch a cat. Maybe he was not faking it. My wife said we're going to the farm store. Bought a large havahart, she asked what to bait it with, I said a 50 cent can of cat food partially opened. He was in the cage in the AM. She called he who can't bend over to come get it. He couldn't bend over to pick up the cage. Wife picked it up and offloaded public cat enemy #1 in the pound truck cage. She said he was beaming, like perhaps when he actually showed up with an outlaw cat his boss might be impressed.

My wife said the lady came running out yelling is that my cat. She looked in the cage and said give him to me, the dog/cat deputy said nope you have to pay the fine and then pick him up, he doesn't have a rabies tag, we do that and charge you too. She never said a thing to my wife.

She picked the cat up and kept them inside.

Shame we legally couldn't trap her and hand her over to the cat sheriff.

Great story but the dog pound guy probably couldn't pick her up either.
 
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Shhhh!!!! You're talkin' too much.. Ain't you heard, Wyoming was declared plumb full as of Feb 1st of this year?
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Yup, things got to change or folks are gonna have to learn to eat asphalt..:cool:
 
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The EXACT same thing has happened to Florida. :mad:

Which by the way, according to some sources has more cattle grazing than Texas. :cool:

This is why many Texans will openly say that Austin--is no longer a part of Texas.Many fromNY,NJ,Calif etc--moved to the "Music Capital of the World" and are complaining about the musical noise. :confused::mad:
 
I lived miles inside the city limits in Austin--at least one of our neighbors--had several roosters and they did create a lot of noise. I soon learned to live with it and it didnt bother me any after the first month or so?

The worst farm smell I ever smelled--was when passing by the huge and old chicken farm somewhere to the south west of Kingsville. My good Lord--even from about a mile away--you HAD to hold your breath to pass the place. A good friend of mines dad--had about ten pigs on his property--and that smell was bad enough. I cant imagine a huge pig farm smell.
 
Had some old farmers sell of their land in three- and five-acre 'farmettes' back in the late 80's; they wanted to retire and their kids didn't want to farm. Big, pretty houses started sprouting up all over the place. Then for the next several years, the first few days of September, we'd get a bunch of gunshot calls. Had to explain to the new folks that dove season opens on September 1st.....

One couple called to complain because the guy who owned the big field in back of their house was 'going into those trees down by the creek, and shooting at the deer'. Had to explain the concept of deer season, landowner rights, people actually eating venison, etc. They insisted that I make him stop, because those are 'our deer; we put food out for them in our back yard.' When I explained that I could write up a report indicating that they are claiming ownership of the deer, but then they might be liable for damages in the even of car-deer traffic accidents in the area. They didn't like that idea. Don't know how they finally came to terms with the situation, but we didn't get any more calls to their house.

One of the more fun ones was the call about a woman screaming for help. New people in one of the farmettes didn't know that one of their neighbors across the way, who had lived there for years, raised peacocks. Acebow
 
Like Ringo, I live well inside Austin, in South Austin. Several neighbors have chickens. One gentleman started off by letting them out a couple times a day to feed in his yard. Then it seemed like he just let them roam free. Then he got 4 or 5 wild turkeys and let them wander. The wife and I thought that was cool but a neighbor down the street called the City and the turkeys had to go. His chickens roam no more either.
 
Like Ringo, I live well inside Austin, in South Austin. Several neighbors have chickens. One gentleman started off by letting them out a couple times a day to feed in his yard. Then it seemed like he just let them roam free. Then he got 4 or 5 wild turkeys and let them wander. The wife and I thought that was cool but a neighbor down the street called the City and the turkeys had to go. His chickens roam no more either.

A few years ago here in Corpus--the city council decided to make a law against Horses being inside city limits--but nothing said about pigs, turkeys,chickens and such. I guess they had one too many complaints of the horses leaving stuff on the street as they were being ridden down? I knew a lady who still rode a horse to work--but now she cant due to the new law. She kept her horse in her backyard--never had a complaint from any neighbors. Now she is forced to keep it at some stables located several miles away.
 
I've never been one to complain about noise from a neighbor. I understand about barking dogs at night, but it seems some folk just like to raise sand because they can hear any noise from inside their home. I guess some just like to stir the pot. I've always had a noisy way about me, loud cars, rock'n roll, shooting, drag bikes, so I'm very tolerant and I expect as much, but I will try to please my neighbors. Years ago, I was sitting in my den, watching TV around 9 at night, and heard a neighbor about 4 houses away, fire up his big block Chevelle drag car, open headers of course. It just brought a smile to my face. I knew I wouldn't be the bad guy around there, as long as he was there.
 
Living or living well

When I was younger our address was Rural Route 1, Suisun, Calif. My dream was to retire back to the country but I now realize that will never happen. Now it is more important to live near good medical care and I am used to the city life. I have accepted my fate.

Hate to say it..good to be around good medical care..but I'd rather be around good every day people. The people in Wy are some of the most courteous I have seen since I was a kid growing up on the Eastern Shore..Even the young'uns are friendly..Just livin isn't everything...living well is more important...at least to me. And all of a sudden I have a bunch of problems..I can travel for medical care..I can't even stomach the idea of city livin.. Just me..not dissing anyone..just saying how I feel
 
This story illustrates precisely why we around here dread seeing a family of "Yankees" move in.:D

They don't even have to be Yankees anymore. Just people who've always lived in large cities.

Dave Allen used to tell a story about a woman from London visiting the West Country of England and asking a farmer why a cow in his field didn't have horns. "Well," the farmer answered, "some cows 'ave their 'orns removed. Some lose their 'orns accidentally. Some cows are born without 'orns. The reason that cow doesn't 'ave 'orns is, it's a bloody 'orse."
 
Living in the city, I will say the further away I get from the metropolitan area the friendlier the people are. My girlfriend and I complain all the time to each other how every year people seem to be getting more rude.

We visit Gettysburg a few times a year. The people in that area are VERY friendly. Then there are the southern people who are very polite and courteous who trek up North to visit this historical site. You are good people, who seem to understand manners and not being in a rush. It's a pleasure interacting with you.

...although while I'm down there a lot of you Marylanders drive like maniacs ;)
 
My plan is to find a few hundred acres somewhere and carve out a few dozen acres for my own use and the rent/lease the rest to the farmer next door. If you don't have any neighbors for miles then no one can complain. Or would take a few thousand acres?

We bought 160 rural acres. One certified nut woman owned 70 on one end. My wifes family had owned the farm for years and was well versed with the nut. Cut fences, drive on our farm, her brothers would come into town and drive out on my farm to deer hunt, I put an end to that. The 1st year I owned it I was shooting doves and a sheriffs deputy drove up my lane to talk to me.

I was cordial, had to do similar junk myself a time or two.

He said a neighbor, she was the only one, complained that I was shooting and she was afraid I'd shoot her horses and demanded they stop me. I inquired about his legal point, dove season, my 160 acres, her place and horses are over 1/2 mile away.

I could see his problem, she was going to ream him for not getting it stopped.

Told him I was not going to stop and he can tell the coocoo nest lady to stop wasting our time. He said is there any way to tone it down, I said nope, and I deer hunt too. And tell her if I catch her brothers on me you and the game warden will be called on them.

One acre would be good enough with the right neighbor.

A county is not big enough if your neighbor is a nut.
 
I am age sixty now. I grew up in a coastal "city" that was spliced together from a beachfront town and a rural county in the early 1960's. The rural areas quickly became fodder for the bulldozers and cracker boxes. There is a Navy Master Jet Base in the middle of the city that had increasingly louder aircraft operating out of it. The current F18 Superhornets are deafening and the stink of burning jet fuel rains down. The even louder F-35's will be here soon. The beachfront town area is now a full-fledged tourist trap with all the tacky kitch and hotels blocking any ocean view that isn't paid for... The suburbs rule and places to hunt and shoot have gone away. Over a half million people are here now and what's left of the farmland is being eaten slowly. Most residents don't know that part exists and that's good...When my wife retires, I hope to relocate to New Mexico and compared to the jet blast and traffic noise and constant drone of suburban lawn equipment, the sound and smell of farm critters and gunfire won't be any problem. The universal retort to the slightest complaint about the noise is the jet base was here first so move. The air base was built during WWII... My family was here in the late 18th Century and fought in every war since the War of American Independence...If one was to call the local PD for any noise complaint, I would expect a good laugh from the dispatcher. We are all subject to the interests of the majority and must choose how to deal with it. I guess it's one reason disgruntled ancestors moved west.
 
...although while I'm down there a lot of you Marylanders drive like maniacs ;)

Hey that wasn't me.. never drove like a maniac..at least in the last 30 yrs. But I will admit them people drivin round those Beltways are surely maniacs. Heck I was the Lt on an engine going to a car fire on the B-mo Beltway one time..lights and sirens and got passed by more than one car
 
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