Johnmuratore
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I think we all noticed but were too polite to point it out.
WHEN YOUR BETTING YOUR LIFE UPON IT
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keith44spl
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Uh, it's you're not your.
Yore = A time long past. "In the days of yore people needed six chambers to do the job of one."
If you're happy with your boat anchor, invented in the days of yore, I'm happy for you.
Ah, how we all long for the day of yore, whence was the opening day of season in the enchanted forest,
without bag limit on fire breathing dragons and other asorted reptilians.
To venture forth on trusted steed with sharpen'd lance....Oh, how I do miss it so!
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Springfeildkid585
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The vast majority of my failure to fires have come from a K frame revolver. It turned out to be a very easily solvable issue, (the dummy who owned it before me put the wrong hammer nose on it), but I bring this up to point out that even revolvers arn't 100% reliable. That's why I advocate carrying 2 dependable guns.
BigBill
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Just my point I'm no better than anyone else I'm a tooth on a gear like anyone else.
Mainsail
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LOL, what, you think you're the most educated or intelligent person on the forum?
Well, forgetting the 'r' is pretty much the only other error yo can make with 'your'.
The comparison between revolver and semi auto is a moot point these days. It's more personal choice than anything else. The most important consideration is to be proficient with your choice.
I have revolvers and semi autos that I carry. I have the utmost confidence in each and every one of them.
But I will say that the weak link in semi autos is the magazine. That's why I always carry a spare mag and practice malfunction drills.
I have revolvers and semi autos that I carry. I have the utmost confidence in each and every one of them.
But I will say that the weak link in semi autos is the magazine. That's why I always carry a spare mag and practice malfunction drills.
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I think it's all a personal preference.
I will never cary a certain make/model gun because someone tells me it's the most reliable.
That being said, I'm forced to defend myself with a pocketknife.
It's the only thing I didn't loose in that darn boating accident.[emoji25]
I will never cary a certain make/model gun because someone tells me it's the most reliable.
That being said, I'm forced to defend myself with a pocketknife.
It's the only thing I didn't loose in that darn boating accident.[emoji25]
BigBill
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There are a lot of improvements that can be done to the 1911's to increase the reliability and performance.
I polish the feed ramp. I remove the blued or nickel finish on every used or new 1911. Then I chamfer the bottom of the extractor. The chamfer acts like a funnel the allows the case rim to be positively guided into the extractor while the slide moves forward while it leaves the magazine and heads into the chamber. I add a FLGR (full length guide rod) with a 18lb recoil spring. The full length guide rod eliminates the recoil spring from coiling when the slide first starts to move rearward. The stronger recoil spring eliminates the over travel of the slide rearward. It cycles faster and smoother. The next round is chambered in milliseconds. I lube everything even the springs with moly. If you move the empty slide forward there's a bump as it hits the extractor. Adding a extractor ramp on the bottom of the slide eliminates this horrible "bump". It smooths out the slide movement. Be careful with this ramp. It's below the firing pin hole. The case rim slides on the face of the slide above this slot for the ramp. I go as high as the disconnector cam no higher. There's plenty of clearance for the case rim. With the FLGR/18lb recoil spring, the disconnector ramp the movement of the slide is super smooth. My norinco shoots clusters and cloverleafs @ 25yds using Russian wolf ammo. I fitted a new surplus USGI Barrel and a IAI National Match barrel bushing. I fitted it very carefully so I have 100% lockup when it's in full battery. When no movement when I push down on the barrel when it's in full battery. I have no barrel spring when the barrel is in full battery or when it hinges down to feed the next round. In full battery the barrel is lapped to the bushing for a 100% lockup. I have this kind of accuracy without touching the loose slide to frame rail fit. I have the fixtures and tools to tighten up the frame rail to slide fit I just haven't did it yet. I'm thinking just a little we're I dont hurt the dependability reliability. My first 1911 project came out awesome so far. I trust it. I wanted my first build to be done using cheap affordable parts just to see how accurate it could be. The $59 surplus barrel from SPG and the IAI national match barrel bushing $15 from CDNN. the FLGR KIT was $9 on sale.
I polish the feed ramp. I remove the blued or nickel finish on every used or new 1911. Then I chamfer the bottom of the extractor. The chamfer acts like a funnel the allows the case rim to be positively guided into the extractor while the slide moves forward while it leaves the magazine and heads into the chamber. I add a FLGR (full length guide rod) with a 18lb recoil spring. The full length guide rod eliminates the recoil spring from coiling when the slide first starts to move rearward. The stronger recoil spring eliminates the over travel of the slide rearward. It cycles faster and smoother. The next round is chambered in milliseconds. I lube everything even the springs with moly. If you move the empty slide forward there's a bump as it hits the extractor. Adding a extractor ramp on the bottom of the slide eliminates this horrible "bump". It smooths out the slide movement. Be careful with this ramp. It's below the firing pin hole. The case rim slides on the face of the slide above this slot for the ramp. I go as high as the disconnector cam no higher. There's plenty of clearance for the case rim. With the FLGR/18lb recoil spring, the disconnector ramp the movement of the slide is super smooth. My norinco shoots clusters and cloverleafs @ 25yds using Russian wolf ammo. I fitted a new surplus USGI Barrel and a IAI National Match barrel bushing. I fitted it very carefully so I have 100% lockup when it's in full battery. When no movement when I push down on the barrel when it's in full battery. I have no barrel spring when the barrel is in full battery or when it hinges down to feed the next round. In full battery the barrel is lapped to the bushing for a 100% lockup. I have this kind of accuracy without touching the loose slide to frame rail fit. I have the fixtures and tools to tighten up the frame rail to slide fit I just haven't did it yet. I'm thinking just a little we're I dont hurt the dependability reliability. My first 1911 project came out awesome so far. I trust it. I wanted my first build to be done using cheap affordable parts just to see how accurate it could be. The $59 surplus barrel from SPG and the IAI national match barrel bushing $15 from CDNN. the FLGR KIT was $9 on sale.
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bhayles
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Uh, it's you're not your.
Your = Belongs to you. "It's your right to start a pointless and divisive thread."
You're = You are. "You're certain of you opinion?"
Yore = A time long past. "In the days of yore people needed six chambers to do the job of one."
If you're happy with your boat anchor, invented in the days of yore, I'm happy for you.
Uh, its your, not you're...your life, belonging to you, not "you are life".
The title is "WHEN YOUR BETTING YOUR LIFE UPON IT"
He was saying it should be "WHEN YOU'RE (YOU ARE) BETTING YOUR LIFE UPON IT"
Caps are in the title, just quoting.
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ROFLMAO
You guys turned a semi-auto vs revolver thread into a argument over grammar.[emoji12]
You guys turned a semi-auto vs revolver thread into a argument over grammar.[emoji12]
I am the party that started this thread, and I am not a troll, I enjoy
reading the different view points on the subject.
Also It is unfortunate my grasp of the English language is not up to the
standard of some on this Forum, most of my education was acquired
in a patrol car working the streets of Miami, FL ( the State of NC thought that it was sufficient for 10 two year appointments as Magistrate )
I have found that making a post on a public forum is quite similar to
walking into a strange bar, there is always someone that wants to pick a fight.
After stating I bet my life on a revolver I will relate a true story of betting
my life on a revolver and could easily lost it (However, this was a freakish occurrence)
"Grammar Police, sharpen your pencils and I will give you lots of ammunition"
In 1962 I was on the Miami Springs Police Dept which is next to
the Miami International Airport. Therefore, Eastern Air Lines had
their Stewardess training facility there and many young ladies
living in the dormitories.
The past weeks the bathing suits of the students hanging overnight
on the clothes lines had been found in the morning with the crotch
cut into shreds but we couldn't catch the pervert doing it.
Answering a midnight shift call to that area I parked my patrol car a block away and ran into the area on foot, saw a man, chased him to a residential house where he hid behind a shrubbery but I could see his feet, I
knew he was nuts and had a knife or razor, I drew my .357 and told him to come out ( placing all my faith in my revolver ) he complied,
I arrested him and put him in jail.
This happened on the midnight shift and I was due to qualify on the
FBI Pistol range at 9:00 AM.
On the first command of the Range Officer to draw and shoot 5
rounds, my S&W went click click five times, I held up my hand, the
Range Officer came and inspected my Combat Magnum and found
the end of the firing pin had crystallized and broke off.
I had not shot the gun since my previous range visit
but had dry fired it a number of times.
Therefore, nothing is perfect and if it is your time to go it won't
matter if you have a fully automatic Uzi.
Billy
i
reading the different view points on the subject.
Also It is unfortunate my grasp of the English language is not up to the
standard of some on this Forum, most of my education was acquired
in a patrol car working the streets of Miami, FL ( the State of NC thought that it was sufficient for 10 two year appointments as Magistrate )
I have found that making a post on a public forum is quite similar to
walking into a strange bar, there is always someone that wants to pick a fight.
After stating I bet my life on a revolver I will relate a true story of betting
my life on a revolver and could easily lost it (However, this was a freakish occurrence)
"Grammar Police, sharpen your pencils and I will give you lots of ammunition"
In 1962 I was on the Miami Springs Police Dept which is next to
the Miami International Airport. Therefore, Eastern Air Lines had
their Stewardess training facility there and many young ladies
living in the dormitories.
The past weeks the bathing suits of the students hanging overnight
on the clothes lines had been found in the morning with the crotch
cut into shreds but we couldn't catch the pervert doing it.
Answering a midnight shift call to that area I parked my patrol car a block away and ran into the area on foot, saw a man, chased him to a residential house where he hid behind a shrubbery but I could see his feet, I
knew he was nuts and had a knife or razor, I drew my .357 and told him to come out ( placing all my faith in my revolver ) he complied,
I arrested him and put him in jail.
This happened on the midnight shift and I was due to qualify on the
FBI Pistol range at 9:00 AM.
On the first command of the Range Officer to draw and shoot 5
rounds, my S&W went click click five times, I held up my hand, the
Range Officer came and inspected my Combat Magnum and found
the end of the firing pin had crystallized and broke off.
I had not shot the gun since my previous range visit
but had dry fired it a number of times.
Therefore, nothing is perfect and if it is your time to go it won't
matter if you have a fully automatic Uzi.
Billy
i
Rastoff
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I admit I didn't read all the posts here. Still, I'm gonna say this and I bet no one has said it yet....
Here is where I get flamed...
I'll bet most of the guys touting revolvers over any other form of self-defense tool, can't shoot it accurately with speed and from concealment. It is the most over looked aspect of carrying a gun; accuracy.
Sure, you can shoot a .05" group at 50 yards while at the range, in nice weather and with no one bothering you. But, can you even shoot a 10" group at 7 yards when starting from concealment and trying to get two shots off in under 2.3 seconds?
Alright, I can't argue with the first point, revolvers are inherently more reliable. However, the second most important aspect of a self-defense tool is being able to hit the target. It could be said this way: if the gun doesn't work, it's useless, but, if the shooter can't hit the target, it might as well not work.
Here is where I get flamed...
I'll bet most of the guys touting revolvers over any other form of self-defense tool, can't shoot it accurately with speed and from concealment. It is the most over looked aspect of carrying a gun; accuracy.
Sure, you can shoot a .05" group at 50 yards while at the range, in nice weather and with no one bothering you. But, can you even shoot a 10" group at 7 yards when starting from concealment and trying to get two shots off in under 2.3 seconds?
I'd not get too wrapped up around the axle about folks pointing out grammar faux pas or implying being a troll. It's the internet, and trying to get points across via a keyboard means 96% of human communication (body language) isn't in play ... (and the gremlins apparently trying to anticipate typing words for us, and operating spell-check at times, get their chance to muddy things up
).In the old days, cops at my former agency dictated reports, and a secretary typed them up, meaning they were generally better written, not to mention legible. (Lots of pencil eraser smudges could make reports look "interesting", even if the grammar and spelling was otherwise acceptable.)
Anyway, you've been around long enough to know how equipment/machinery can suffer from normal wear & tear, as well as being subjected to the rigors of normal carry (sometimes qualifying as abuse).
Revolvers and semiauto pistols have come a long way, but both can be subject to entropy, human interference and the predations of Murphy.
There's a reason the gun companies recommend that both revolvers and pistols are given periodic inspections by armorers when they're being carried hither and yon, out in the real world. (Of course, part of the reason is for armorers to try and catch any attempts at "improvements" or "modifications" performed by users.
)I like to perform occasional preventive maintenance on my own firearms, hoping to catch any developing problems before they can cause actual functioning problems. Sometimes that's possible (BTDT) ... and sometimes we're caught unawares despite our best intentions (like getting a flat tire without warning).
TANSTAAFL, right?
Best regards.
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Aticus
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Well here's another time my sense of humor offended someone.
Lazy-b lighten up a little. If you take a moment, step back and really look at what you posted you might see than stating that you trust revolvers as defensive weapons more that semi-autos will and did get the war started. I thought that you would realize that before you posted what you did.That's why the smart ***** post on my part.
As for the grammar police I too find some of the word usage and spelling on the forums atrocious. I have learned to ignore it. Don't let anyone push your button on your use of the language. Laugh at them it'll make them wonder what you're plotting.
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badge 851
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My personal experience w/semi autos has not been good. Because of that I have only carried revolvers for the last 30 years. Each to his own but I will stick with my wheelguns. YMMVH...
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