Some D-Day facts

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I copied this from yahoo since their links won't post here. One other fact but concerning the invasion of Okinawa: Among the supplies moved ashore were 144 million cigarettes! Now, on to D-Day:

1. What does D-Day mean anyway? That remains a topic of debate today, since the operation was cloaked in secrecy. One prominent theory is that the word D-Day originated in a World War I tradition of assigning generic words like D-Day and H-Hour to events with unassigned dates. Another is that the “D” stands for the word “departed,” as in “departed date.”

2. The invading force by sea and air was staggering. The D-Day attack consisted or more than 150,000 personnel coming across the English Channel by sea and air, and about 100,000 troops were involved in the invasion on June 6.

3. The cost of the invasion was high. Of the 100,000 or so fighters in the invading force, about 9,000 were killed or wounded on June 6, 1944.

4. How rare is a major amphibious attack? Throughout history, attacks over water were a feature of many wars and campaigns, but not on the scale of the D-Day invasion. The Spanish Armada in 1588 that failed to invade England had about 130 ships and a potential 55,000 fighters. The D-Day force had about 5,000 vessels involved in various roles.

5. Was D-Day the biggest marine invasion ever? Again, that is another debate topic. Many people believe the Normandy invasion was the largest such operation during World War II, but others can make an argument for the April 1945 invasion of Okinawa in the Pacific. The 1943 Allied landing in Sicily was also a very large and complicated operation.

6. There were live broadcasts of the invasion on radio. After a German news agency scooped the Western press by confirming the invasion in a wire report, press coverage began in the Allied nations. One CBS reporter broadcasted live from a ship within the invading force. In all, more than 700,000 words recounting the events of June 6, 1944 were relayed back to the public.

7. How did the Allies fool the Germans? The grand plan included the construction of a dummy invasion force across from the Pas de Calais near Dover. Rubber ships and plywood tanks were part of the fake invasion force.

8. How did D-Day happen on June 6th? Since everyone knew an invasion of some type was imminent, so weather and timing played prominent roles. General Dwight Eisenhower picked June 5, 1944 as the date for the invasion, but bad weather forced a postponement. After meteorologists told Eisenhower that the weather would clear the next day, the invasion was on. In reality, the weather was nearly as bad on June 6.

9. Where did the name Operation Overlord come from? Winston Churchill is believed to be the person who assigned the codename to the D-Day invasion, since he had a very high interest in selecting code names. The Germans actually pioneered the use of code names in World War I.

10. What was Eisenhower’s message to the troops? Ike’s Orders of the Day told the force, “The eyes of the world are upon you.”
 
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D-Day is not a term specific to Operation Overlord or 6/6/1944. It is common military usage for the designated date for commencement of an operation. It means no more that "This is the day", just like H-Hour means simply that "This is the time the operation will commence". It is just that the designation "D-Day" caught the imagination of the general public for this particular momentous event!

If you check military records you will find that every major invasion or offensive had a designated D-Day, not just 6/6/44.
 
Another factor considered essential in fooling the Germans as to the location of the invasion was the famous "Man Who Never Was" ploy, wherein a corpse dressed in a British officer's uniform carrying false military plans with erroneous information was thrown overboard from a British sub to drift to Spain, where it was found and everything was given to German intelligence. Great pains were taken to make everything seem realistic under intense German scrutiny.

There is a book I once had called "Dirty Little Secrets of WWII" which contains literally thousands of such nuggets of information, little known and not found in the history books. I wish I still had it, but I gave it away several months ago.
 
I have an inquisitive mind and a great interest in history in general, and recently have watched a number of videos on YouTube re WW2. Not being a military man I certainly wouldn't be so presumptuous as to call into question the decisions/planning of generals and others. However it has always seemed very sad to me that we couldn't do more to mitigate those terrible losses on the beaches from those machine gunners. I wonder why we couldn't have sent waves of strafing aircraft & try to direct their fire into those concrete bunkers. If we couldn't hit the gunners, couldn't we have at least scared them away from their triggers enough to save some lives down below? Educate me here, veterans. I respect your expertise and experience.

Regards,
Andy
 
]You are correct - it was Sicily. I looked it up.

It was an amazingly intricate and effective scam. They thought of everything, and the Germans took it hook, line and sinker.
 
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D-Day is not a term specific to Operation Overlord or 6/6/1944. It is common military usage for the designated date for commencement of an operation. It means no more that "This is the day", just like H-Hour means simply that "This is the time the operation will commence". It is just that the designation "D-Day" caught the imagination of the general public for this particular momentous event!

If you check military records you will find that every major invasion or offensive had a designated D-Day, not just 6/6/44.

No ****. If you have a point it escapes me. That point was in the original post, see #1.
 
Anyone who hasn't seen, "The Longest Day" certainly should. Although in B&W, it is perhaps the best movie about D-Day.

Look for Gert Frobe as a German NCO and Sean Connery as a Bren gunner, shortly before he became Bond, 007.

Most stars are more obvious, and there were a bunch: John Wayne, Richard Burton, Red Buttons (who really was a US paratrooper on June 6), Peter Lawford, Richard Todd, etc..

A very good movie, and without the PC stuff and casting errors of, "Saving Private Ryan." That was a pretty sorry bunch of Rangers. Did Spielberg confuse Rangers with reluctant draftees? But I think he got the carnage on the beaches right, as never before.
 
Red Buttons & D Day

"...Drafted into the United States Army Air Forces, Buttons in 1943 appeared in the Army Air Forces' Broadway show Winged Victory, along with several future stars, including Mario Lanza, John Forsythe, Karl Malden and Lee J. Cobb. A year later he appeared in Darryl F. Zanuck's movie version of Winged Victory, directed by George Cukor. Buttons also entertained troops in the European Theater in the same unit as Mickey Rooney...." per wickipedia

Is there another reference that says Red Buttons was a paratrooper?
Seems to be another misquote about D Day and WWII.
 
I have an inquisitive mind and a great interest in history in general, and recently have watched a number of videos on YouTube re WW2. Not being a military man I certainly wouldn't be so presumptuous as to call into question the decisions/planning of generals and others. However it has always seemed very sad to me that we couldn't do more to mitigate those terrible losses on the beaches from those machine gunners. I wonder why we couldn't have sent waves of strafing aircraft & try to direct their fire into those concrete bunkers. If we couldn't hit the gunners, couldn't we have at least scared them away from their triggers enough to save some lives down below? Educate me here, veterans. I respect your expertise and experience.






Regards,
Andy

This is something I've also wondered about. Surely they could have used napalm on the heights where the Germans were spraying the beach. Never read why this wasn't given more attention.
 
This is something I've also wondered about. Surely they could have used napalm on the heights where the Germans were spraying the beach. Never read why this wasn't given more attention.

I have read (can't remember the book, sorry), that the US Navy offered the use of the amphibious tractors (amtracs) used in the Pacific theater to move troops onto and across a beach. Not true armored vehicles, they did mount machine guns and could have afforded some protection to attacking troops. Allegedly, General Bradley said these vehicles were not needed.

Just a story, perhaps, but an interesting one.

What was a documented fact, was that most of the pre-invasion naval bombardment and aerial bombing landed behind the beaches.

Kaaskop49
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As usual, a lot of the credit for the Allied success goes to Hitler.

As things went more and more badly, he took more and more day to day control over operations, with monotonously predictable results.

Divided command and his meddling ensured that there would not be a coherent (or indeed ANY) high level response to the invasion for hours and days.

The Allied air forces owned the skies over France. Between their incessant attacks on the transport network and harassment by the French resistance, the strongest mobile German units such as the SS "Das Reich" division had to move in darkness, like the Chinese in Korea. Movements that should have taken hours took days, and at crippling cost. As was to be expected, the Germans took their frustrations out on the civilian populace.

After the German collapse in the west, it was only a matter of time. The Germans had no chance of beating just the Soviets. Only a lunatic could have believed that they could have defeated us as well.

I once dated a woman whose mother was starting to experience Alzheimer's. She thought that as long as she had checks, she had money. As long as Hitler had unit designations on a map, he thought he had an army. They were both wrong.
 
This is something I've also wondered about. Surely they could have used napalm on the heights where the Germans were spraying the beach. Never read why this wasn't given more attention.

It seems like the military needed something like a PT boat that was lightly armored but still fast and with lots of shielded M2 50 calibers and 20m/m Oerlikon's. A bunch of these could have given the guys on the beach covering fire and put some heat on the enemy machine guns.
 
Anyone who hasn't seen, "The Longest Day" certainly should. Although in B&W, it is perhaps the best movie about D-Day.

Look for Gert Frobe as a German NCO and Sean Connery as a Bren gunner, shortly before he became Bond, 007.

Most stars are more obvious, and there were a bunch: John Wayne, Richard Burton, Red Buttons (who really was a US paratrooper on June 6), Peter Lawford, Richard Todd, etc..

A very good movie, and without the PC stuff and casting errors of, "Saving Private Ryan." That was a pretty sorry bunch of Rangers. Did Spielberg confuse Rangers with reluctant draftees? But I think he got the carnage on the beaches right, as never before.

Ill take The Longest Day over SPR any time any day--even if SPR was more accurate in the landing scenes. Also, James "Scotty" Doohan,lost a couple fingers while landing on D-Day. I THINK he was in the Royal Engineers?????
 
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