Then the Doctor asked: "Do you have any guns in the house?"

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You know it's simple. When the question is nobodies business, guns, income, SS#, religion etc, just lie. I've gotten very good at it. It's nothing new, been going on for decades. Don't fight it or they'll make a notation in the book.
 
happened to me about 3 years ago.....because I was wearing a Sig Sauer t shirt under my sweatshirt and he wanted to know what models I had......I told him I had a P-220 and a sig pro 9mm...until I sold them to a guy that lives in his van down by the river;);):D.....he didn't ask about any of my S&W..:p My Doc is an ex-marine;)
 
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Interesting. Lie to the person you let check your prostate, take a video tour of your colon, draw your blood, and inject you with toxic chemicals , and who is the one who sews you together if it hits the fan.. Just ask him if he can help with your grip, as the gun shoots low left.

Obama care does not require doctors ask and report gun ownership.

snopes.com: Medicare Requires Doctors to Ask Patients About Guns?
Doctors actually could lose their licenses if they share information about patients owning guns, and language in the Affordable Care Act specifically says that a doctor is not required to ask about guns. "The Government and Obamacare are not forcing us to do this," said Wellspan Health Pediatrician Caroline Hall. "We ask because we're concerned about anything that could pose a danger to children, just like we ask about if there are smokers around the children."
Obama Sets the Record Straight: Obamacare Doesn
The firearms provision of the Affordable Care Act is found in Title X, section 2717, subsection C: Protection of Second Amendment Gun Rights. It says that doctors cannot require anyone to disclose ownership of a firearm and it restricts insurance companies and the government from collect or storing data on various aspects of gun ownership by individuals.

AMA and doctors push this. Doctors can ask if they feel it is relevant.
Pretty much another on line "truth" that is based on misreading laws and wishful thinking. Repeating a false report often and loudly doesn't make it so, except on the internet.
 
Whenever I'm asked that question, I just reply, "Do you also want to know if I have any large amounts of cash, jewelry, art, or high-end electronics?" That usually puts an end to the discussion.

Of course, in our neck of the woods, if you don't own any firearms, you're in the minority.
 
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OP, you need to inform your doctor he is in violation of Florida statute 790.338' which has been upheld in higher court. Simply refuse to respond to any further question of that nature.
 
Why make a big deal out of this? The issue has been talked to death here already. At least one of those threads was closed, which is probably what'll happen to this one, too. This may be a Constitutional issue, but I really don't see it as a specific Second Amendment issue.

Instead of telling your doctor you refuse to answer, or carrying on about your Second Amendment rights, or talking about how your right to privacy and Constitutional rights are being infringed upon, or even giving him or her some smart alecky answer...just answer "no" to the question, or to any other question you don't want to answer. Why draw attention to yourself by getting all upset? Your doctor doesn't care what your answers are. He or she just wants some kind of answer...any answer... so he or she can complete the questionaire and continue to get Medicare funding.

When you're done, go home, kick back, drink a cold one, and forget about it.

It really is that simple.
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They told us we could keep our insurance plan, keep our doctor and our premiums would go down $2500/year and now they're saying they only need to know about our guns for safety reasons. Righto. Got it.
 
......He's fairly new to this area and has only been my doctor for 3 years so we don't really know each other very well.......

As we were wrapping things up with the exam he said "since this is a Medicare physical there are a few questions I have to ask". so, I said "OK, go ahead."

He asked "Do you have any guns in your house?" ......

Short answer: Medicare (CMS - Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services) does NOT require any questions about gun ownership be asked or answered. I'm 99.99% certain this is this case but if anyone can produce a CMS reference to the contrary I am open to learning new information.

Long Answer: Medicare Annual Wellness Visits (a.k.a. IPPE, Welcome to Medicare, and AWV exams) have required questions to answer but none of them involve gun ownership. The closest topic would be screening for depression which usually involves two questions usually asked by the nurse questioning whether you've felt down, depressed or hopeless the past two weeks, and whether you've experienced little or no pleasure in doing things the past two weeks. If you scored significantly depressed I could imagine situations where the doc might be concerned if you had firearms in the house.

Your doc is most likely confused by the vast rules, regulations, and recommendations he encounters(?). Who knows? It's possible the organization he works for produced the form he was filling out(?). Really, who knows why he asked about gun ownership?

Some medical organizations recommend screening for gun ownership but it is not required. For example here is text from the AAP (American Academy of Pediatrics) 2012 policy statement:
"......urges pediatricians to counsel parents who possess guns that safe storage and preventing access to guns reduces injury by as much as 70%, and that the presence of a gun in the home increases the risk for suicide among adolescents. Physician counseling, when linked with the distribution of cable locks, has been demonstrated to increase safer home storage of firearms. The removal of guns or the restriction of access should be reinforced for children and adolescents with mood disorders, substance abuse (including alcohol), or history of suicide attempts."

I think any of us would encourage safe storage of firearms in a home with kids and would do whatever we could to restrict access if we had a kid in the house with drug/alcohol problems or suicide attempt.
 
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"he said "since this is a Medicare physical there are a few questions I have to ask".

this is a lot of BS............1ve been on medicare for several years and going to the same doctor ........he has NEVER ask these questions and they are not required.................
 
It's never happened, but if it did, I'd be inclined to ask the doctor if he's ever had certain... "thoughts" about minors.

I suspect that'd put a damper on the non-medical questions...
 
interesting subject a colleague told me today that last Friday his wife was at the eye doctor and he asked her if she owned a gun? SHE ENQUIRED AS TO WHY? He stated "because its a question on this form"

I find that somewhat interesting, again a Florida form...

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I have always had issues with professionals (like doctors) and businesses that have their own almighty "policy" and expect all of us regular folks to obey them like law.

I was returning a defective router to Belkin and the lady told me I had to pay the shipping. "It's our policy" she told me. I replied, "Well, your policy violates my policy of not paying shipping for defective products." She sent me a return label.

The next time you're going to the doctor and expecting those sorts of forms or questions, bring along a list of your own. 30 questions of absolutely no relevance to the visit should do. Start asking them when the Dr starts asking you.

How old are you?
What is your date of birth?
Were you a middle child?
Have you stopped having impure thoughts regarding members of the Clergy?
What was your gross income last year?
Do you have any convictions for fraud or forgery?
 
I'm a practicing internist and I see Medicare patients every day. There is no Medicare form that asks about firearms ownership or any requirement that doctors ask patients about firearms. The only Medicare requirement is that the doctor's office notes document the type and level of service being billed. The only type of service that requires specific questions is the Medicare Wellness Visit, but none of these questions has to do with firearms.

In fact, the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) specifically prohibits requiring doctors to ask about firearms ownership or using medical records to form a database of firearms owners. Note that they can ask about firearms if they want to, but it's not a requirement. The OP's doctor is wrong if he thinks this a requirement for payment from Medicare.
 
As Hondo Lane said, "A man oughta do what he thinks is best."

Personally, I never gave the people who fixed the brakes on my ambulance a hard time. In a similar vein, I don't say snarky things to people who can stick fingers in any of my orifices.

YMMV.

It's never happened, but if it did, I'd be inclined to ask the doctor if he's ever had certain... "thoughts" about minors.

I suspect that'd put a damper on the non-medical questions...
 
If someone asked if I had guns in my house, I'd have to say no. I keep them in a safe, but I won't mention that .
 
Why make a big deal out of this? The issue has been talked to death here already. At least one of those threads was closed, which is probably what'll happen to this one, too. This may be a Constitutional issue, but I really don't see it as a specific Second Amendment issue.

Instead of telling your doctor you refuse to answer, or carrying on about your Second Amendment rights, or talking about how your right to privacy and Constitutional rights are being infringed upon, or even giving him or her some smart alecky answer...just answer "no" to the question, or to any other question you don't want to answer. Why draw attention to yourself by getting all upset? Your doctor doesn't care what your answers are. He or she just wants some kind of answer...any answer... so he or she can complete the questionaire and continue to get Medicare funding.

When you're done, go home, kick back, drink a cold one, and forget about it.

It really is that simple.
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So your choice would be to allow you doctor to violate state law and then kick back and have a cold one...
 
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....... The next time you're going to the doctor and expecting those sorts of forms or questions, bring along a list of your own. 30 questions of absolutely no relevance to the visit should do. Start asking them when the Dr starts asking you.

How old are you?
What is your date of birth?
Were you a middle child?
Have you stopped having impure thoughts regarding members of the Clergy?
What was your gross income last year?
Do you have any convictions for fraud or forgery?

I, myself, always wonder whether or not the, 'medical professional' I'm talking to has ever had any malpractice suits filed against him or, maybe, almost filed against him?

(Because medical complaints are, both, time-consuming as well as difficult to establish. 'Why'? Because the system is set up that way! If you're going to get anywhere you WILL need: (1) a lawyer who knows his way around the system, and (2) a healthy cash retainer to get him, at the very least, up and running BEFORE he comes back to you with even the beginnings of a verifiable case; AND, of course, a request for more money - Don't ask me, 'How' I know!)

During my time on this earth, 'doctors' have damned near killed me on (Ready?) FOUR SEPARATE OCCASIONS. Good, competent doctors - like talented reliable workers in any profession - are few and far between. When an electrician makes a mistake a light might not come on; but when a doctor makes a mistake he: injures, maims, further sickens, or causes death to occur.

In my old age, and with increased unpleasant personal experience, I've also started to suspect that some, otherwise, perfectly normal looking people will enter into the practice of medicine with other than the highest of altruistic or benevolent intentions. Their root psychological motivation is different. These so-called, 'medical professionals' aren't in the game because they want to, 'help people'; or, perhaps, dreamed about becoming, 'Dr. Kildare' while they were growing up - They have other reasons.

A presumed, 'health issue' like, 'Do you have any guns in your home.' might be asked as: (1) a, 'smokescreen' by someone whose enjoyment of human misery and suffering goes well beyond anything you might be presently able to imagine; or (2) it might, also, be a request for information about just how potentially formidable you might be?

It's an: unrequired, uncalled for, and possibly, 'dirty' medical question. Personally it would, also, cause me to become suspicious of the driving instincts and/or root motivations of the person asking any such question(s). As in any other business transaction in life doctors, also, need to be approached with caution; and, trust me on this, I've already been in a repeated position to know exactly whereof I speak.

Another thing: Rather than whining about, 'We've talked about this before!' Why not just letting the thread run, and giving other people an opportunity to speak their minds? If someone doesn't like a thread then DON'T READ IT! If this weren't a topic of some concern to others then it wouldn't keep coming up, now, would it.

Besides this is the first time, ever, that I've come right out, and revealed my own subjective experiences and feelings about this (obviously) sensitive and controversial topic. I'm old enough to know that very few people are going to tell others what I've just revealed; they'll simply allow their peers to discover this, 'dark truth' about human nature for themselves. 'Why'? Because it's the, 'smart move'; and people are, after all, very very smart! ;)
 
Answer "yes!" Then give a full list, including serial numbers and don't forget to give your ammo supply. Also make certain he has your address correct.
Because no one wants to disarm the citizens of this country.nobody, no how. Nope.....

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Excuse me, I'm off to the shrink, because I'm delusional and prone to believing what snopes and the POTUS press secretary say.
 
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