ruggyh
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Actually the 460 has a bigger boom and pressure wave due to the increased velocity.
S&W 460xvr or The 500?
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Actually the 460 has a bigger boom and pressure wave due to the increased velocity.
Officerblue
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I don't know, I've got both of them in the 500 Magnum seem to have a better bigger recoil. But then again I'm no expert I just like to shoot them
Officerblue
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08-28-2009 this seems an awful lot similar to back then. Plus the 500 Magnum could shoot of 700 grain bullet.... lol
Dan Christopher
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Short answer: either one.
But let me add something. If you are not a reloader and only use factory ammo, then yes the 460 is more versatile in that you can shoot several different rounds in it.
However if you are a reloader, then the whole '460 is more versatile' argument goes completely out the window. With the 500 you can assemble loads with bullet weights from 275gr up to 700gr and in a slew of different power levels.
I own two 500s, BTW
But let me add something. If you are not a reloader and only use factory ammo, then yes the 460 is more versatile in that you can shoot several different rounds in it.
However if you are a reloader, then the whole '460 is more versatile' argument goes completely out the window. With the 500 you can assemble loads with bullet weights from 275gr up to 700gr and in a slew of different power levels.
I own two 500s, BTW
Road_Clam
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I was faced with the same question. For me after much opinion research reading, and some great input from SWF member ruggyh I opted for the 460XVR. It was a better choice for me as I already handloaded, and I wanted a 200 meter, totally impractical but fun precision "hand-cannon". I don't hunt so I was more looking for precision target over max energy knockdown power. With the 460 You get .45 cal bullet versatility and the capability of sick velocities! I ended up buying the 12" xvr and could not be happier with the decision over the .500 in my situation. Let me tell you this, you fire either the 460 or the 500 mag at an indoor range you better have triple hearing protection and a good pair of safety weld goggles cause in a low light situation the muzzle flash/blast is insane.. LOL
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at_liberty
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The heaviest caliber gun in a remotely practical size is the model 29/629. The X-frames are novelty guns notorious for showing up in pawn shops with few rounds ever fired from them. However, given a choice between 460 and 500 S&Ws, I would take the 460. The "plinking" then would be with the range of 45 Colt loads.
ruggyh
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I see far more J and K frame at pawn shops than I do X-frames.
X-frames are not for everyone, funny how if some finds the recoil to stiff for them, then everyone will not be able to handle the gun.
Practical is subjective - the ownership determines that.
I do agree that either are best suited to hand loaders.
The versatility argument of being able to a 275 to 700 grain in the 500 is baseless - you can load the 460 with an equal range of lead 200 to 700+ grain bullets and in all power ranges.
As stated the 500 is tops in absolute kinetic energy and 460 will be tops in velocity.
Does it really matter if you are only shooting paper? or even hunting where either has taken all North America has to offer?
In the end get someone to let you shoot them to determine which one you like - if either. You know your resource limits and free time better than any poster here.
Get what you like- in the end you have to live with it.
Make mine an X-frame.
Be safe and good luck.
Ruggy
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Dan Christopher
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I've never seen a 700gr bullet ( 452-454 ). The heaviest I've ever seen was a 395gr. Were you talking about casting your own 700gr bullets for the 460? I haven't seen a commercially offered weight anywhere close to 700grs for that caliber.
roscoepc
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I don't know about a 700gr for the 460, I'll take Ruggy at his word on that, but here's a link to some loads that'll make a 500 owner drool!!! 
500 S&W : Matts Bullets Ammunition
500 S&W : Matts Bullets Ammunition
Dan Christopher
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I don't know about a 700gr for the 460, I'll take Ruggy at his word on that, but here's a link to some loads that'll make a 500 owner drool!!!
500 S&W : Matts Bullets Ammunition
I am sure Ruggy is correct. I've just never seen any 45 cal bullet offered in that weight. He probably casts his own that heavy would be my guess. Can you imagine the sectional density of a 700gr 45 cal?? That would be some wicked penetration!
ruggyh
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http://smith-wessonforum.com/reloading/117045-heaviest-bullet-load-460-s-w-mag.html
There are multiple bullet caster that sell bullets 500+ for the 460S&W
To be fair bullets above 365 grain really don't provide any real advantage to the cartridges capability but that has not stopped trying. Same can be said for the 500S&W, once you get past 565 grains not anything to be gained.
There are multiple bullet caster that sell bullets 500+ for the 460S&W
To be fair bullets above 365 grain really don't provide any real advantage to the cartridges capability but that has not stopped trying. Same can be said for the 500S&W, once you get past 565 grains not anything to be gained.
Dan Christopher
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Ditto that, Ruggy.
Heaviest I load my 500 is with 440gr. Beyond that is just crazy.
Heaviest I load my 500 is with 440gr. Beyond that is just crazy.
at_liberty
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Immaterial.
Strawman. I don't believe anyone posted that they know what's best for everyone.
But that's just a platitude. We get that you are on the defensive because of owning an X-frame and being man enough to hold and shoot it.
He asked for opinions.
roscoepc
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at_liberty I apologize but, I have to ask: Just what was the point of your post besides busting up Ruggy??? You contributed nothing that will further the OP's knowledge of which weapon to consider?? No opinion's on the 460 or 500 that I could see on your post???
And by the way, Ruggy's suggestion to try these guns out before buying either is the best suggestion that could be offered because if the OP was close enough to me, I'd definitely be happy to take him to the range and let him try mine out after properly coaching him of course!!
Defensive about owning an X Frame????? Please..........
And by the way, Ruggy's suggestion to try these guns out before buying either is the best suggestion that could be offered because if the OP was close enough to me, I'd definitely be happy to take him to the range and let him try mine out after properly coaching him of course!!
Defensive about owning an X Frame????? Please..........
Tony, I don't own either one. The biggest caliber revolver I shoot is a .454 Casull (since '87).
Full power loads in any of these guns are not casual plinking calibers. Reloading is the only way to make them as such. If you don't reload, I would think hard on this. Even if you pick the more versatile .460, it's a big machine to use for casual plinking. If you decide to hunt with one, are you prepared for the expense and practice involved? My advise, try before you buy.
Full power loads in any of these guns are not casual plinking calibers. Reloading is the only way to make them as such. If you don't reload, I would think hard on this. Even if you pick the more versatile .460, it's a big machine to use for casual plinking. If you decide to hunt with one, are you prepared for the expense and practice involved? My advise, try before you buy.
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Road_Clam
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At_liberty, we get your opinions, your clearly very sour towards the x-frame. However there are those of us who purchase a handgun based soley upon not practicality but based upon simply "fun factor". Undeniably the big bore x-frames are all of that . Please refrain from trolling your negitive comments.
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