AMMO FOR TOP BREAK REVOLVER

[Edknn123]

I have an Iver Johnson top break revolver made in 1910 chambered i 38 S&W and was wondering if this ammo would work or be too powerful? The gun is made for smokeless ammo. Winchester Handgun Ammo Kinetic High Energy 38 110 Grain JHP 20 Rounds [HE38JHP]

Caliber: 38 Smith & Wesson
Bullet Type: Jacketed Hollow Point
Bullet Weight: 110 Grain
Muzzle Energy: 220 ft lbs
Muzzle Velocity: 950 fps

 

[TIMETRIPPER]

In a word....NO!
That's pretty potent stuff for a 38 S&W. Are you sure your not looking at 38 Special ammo?
Look for the 148 gr lead round nose ammo put out by Remington. It's fairly tame and should be fine for your IJ if the gun is in good shape.

John

 

[Wiregrassguy]

Here's what to look for. 38 S&W is the shorter cartridge on the right usually found with 146 or 150 gr. bullet weight at 600-700 fps.

 

[SkipD1]

I have an Iver Johnson top break revolver made in 1910 chambered i 38 S&W and was wondering if this ammo would work or be too powerful? The gun is made for smokeless ammo. Winchester Handgun Ammo Kinetic High Energy 38 110 Grain JHP 20 Rounds [HE38JHP]

Caliber: 38 Smith & Wesson
Bullet Type: Jacketed Hollow Point
Bullet Weight: 110 Grain
Muzzle Energy: 220 ft lbs
Muzzle Velocity: 950 fps

You have definitely mistaken the ammo requirement. The HE38JHP is a .38 Special which is loaded as a "High Energy" round. You need the .38 Smith & Wesson cartridge which is quite different as defined in posts above.

 

[Edknn123]

You have definitely mistaken the ammo requirement. The HE38JHP is a .38 Special which is loaded as a "High Energy" round. You need the .38 Smith & Wesson cartridge which is quite different as defined in posts above.

Thanks, that's what I thought, but it didn't say special. I knew the ammo should be 38S&W not special. The ranges around here don't allow LRN and FMJ are hard to find.

 

[M1A]

Remington Target and Privi Partisan make good available ammo for the .38 S&W. I use them in my Webley Mark III. Good brass to reload too.

 

[M1A]

Just looked. Bulk Ammo has Fiocchi FMJ $28.00/50.
I'd try to find a range that allows lead. I am in Commie IL and don't have that problem.

 

[DWalt]

You might find some old FMJ British military ammunition if you look hard enough. You could always load your own using jacketed .38 Special bullets, but it doesn't sound as though you are a reloader. .38 S&W ammunition can be difficult to find and expensive. .38 S&W revolvers are not the best choice for a recreational shooter.

 

[M1A]

.38 S&W revolvers are not the best choice for a recreational shooter.

A lot of fun too shoot though. Pop! Pop! Pop!

 

[glowe]

What part of Michigan are you from? That is news to me that a gun club will not allow lead bullets?? There are no state laws requiring gun clubs to stop shooting lead, so it much be a board issue.

I would contact the ranges and ask for clarification, since it is widely known that early revolvers should not be shot with jacketed bullets. Shooting jacketed and FMJ in those old revolvers that are over 100 years old is much more dangerous than shooting lead and is never recommended. Sounds like a form of age discrimination to me!

 

[Edknn123]

What part of Michigan are you from? That is news to me that a gun club will not allow lead bullets?? There are no state laws requiring gun clubs to stop shooting lead, so it much be a board issue.

I would contact the ranges and ask for clarification, since it is widely known that early revolvers should not be shot with jacketed bullets. Shooting jacketed and FMJ in those old revolvers that are over 100 years old is much more dangerous than shooting lead and is never recommended. Sounds like a form of age discrimination to me!

I'm north of Ann Arbor. I found 1 range 35 miles away that the weekend manager said he would let me use LRN but said the other managers wouldn't. Everyone else said they would mess up their lead air filters. I could shoot at an outdoor range near me in nice weather, but no indoor ones.

 

[glowe]

I'm north of Ann Arbor. I found 1 range 35 miles away that the weekend manager said he would let me use LRN but said the other managers wouldn't. Everyone else said they would mess up their lead air filters. I could shoot at an outdoor range near me in nice weather, but no indoor ones.

Thanks for that clarification. I was thinking outdoors shooting myself. Isn't it strange that the clubs have lead filters, but do not allow anything but jacketed bullets to be shot?????????

 

[DWalt]

I have to wonder what kind of a bullet trap and air system they have that lead bullets would cause such a problem. I used to design ranges, including bullet traps and air systems and am very familiar with such things.

 

[Edknn123]

I have to wonder what kind of a bullet trap and air system they have that lead bullets would cause such a problem. I used to design ranges, including bullet traps and air systems and am very familiar with such things.

No idea, but they allow .22 and shotgun slugs. Didn't seem right to me but that's policy I was told. If anyone knows a range in the metro Detroit area that allows LRN, please let me know.

 

[DWalt]

Most airborne lead found in typical indoor ranges results more from the priming than the bullet. There is some ammunition available which uses primers which contain no lead (lead styphnate). Virtually all particulate lead is found very close to the bullet trap, not in the air. No direct impact-type bullet trap can capture all particulate lead from bullets, but some come pretty close. Granular rubber media traps and earth berm backstops produce very little airborne particulate lead.

 

[wiley]

DNR - Wayne County Shooting Ranges

 

[Edknn123]

DNR - Wayne County Shooting Ranges

Thanks, most of those on the list are private and a lot are out of business. I did find 1 about 45 miles away that not only allows LRN but has the ammo in stock. Seeing as I just inherited 2 guns that use LRN, I don't have to make an online ammo purchase until I'm sure I want to keep them. Thanks so much for reminding me of this range. The others on the list said no. The one that said yes can't believe they are banned elsewhere.