My wife uses one of those carts at Wal Mart, if she doesn't she can barely walk by the time she gets done shopping. The carts have died on her in the middle of the store and she has had to walk and she does but then she has to cancel her plans for the rest of the day and come home and go to bed
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My wife uses one of those carts at Wal Mart, if she doesn't she can barely walk by the time she gets done shopping. The carts have died on her in the middle of the store and she has had to walk and she does but then she has to cancel her plans for the rest of the day and come home and go to bed
Generally, I'd have something snarky to add. One of my friends had a hip replaced. Wouldn't know it from watching, but the evenings are slow motion with lots of prescription meds in a supporting role. The hang tag is well-deserved.
With respect to the OP, unless you know the deal, recommend erring on the side of caution.
With respect to the OP, unless you know the deal, recommend erring on the side of caution.
Had one......
......and only used it once on a bad day. Even if I had trouble getting across the parking lot, I figured there were a lot of people that needed it more than I did. It was a comfort to know that I had it if I needed it, but I wasn't going to use it unless I HAD to.
......and only used it once on a bad day. Even if I had trouble getting across the parking lot, I figured there were a lot of people that needed it more than I did. It was a comfort to know that I had it if I needed it, but I wasn't going to use it unless I HAD to.
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You can report it to the police but doubt they can really do anything.
Absalom
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Nowhere in your posts did I see any mention of you actually talking to this person.
Now I don't doubt you know the situation well enough that your evaluation is correct. But due to many factors that have been mentioned by others, there is an uncertainty factor that remains.
So someone needs to do the embarrassing job of confronting this person and finding out the reason (or not) of the placard use (or abuse).
You seem to hope that you can hand this awkward task off to someone else by "reporting" this person somewhere. If her behavior had created a problem or even just inconvenienced someone who mattered, like a disabled co-worker or a disabled customer, management would have addressed this already.
But since no actually affected disabled people seem to be complaining about feeling victimized by this person's behavior, and the only "proof" are your descriptions, I think you're on your own.
Well yea I thought there was a place to report something like this. Someone issues it, someone looks after it. I can confront speeders too but that doesn't do any good. What do you think a speeder will tell me if I ask him to slow down? Probably go .... yourself, right!?!?! Calling someone who handles that.....like the police ...would work better don't you think.
Like I said. ...I asked the son in law who has been in that family since 2002 (and rhey are living incthe same house for a year while his is beilng built) he has no idea why she has it.
If I ask the answer will just be something like who are you that you can ask me? Are you the police? Or something like that.
I don't need anyone else to do it. I need someone who enforces this to do it.
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italiansport
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Here is another example of socialized "feel good, good intentions legislation that's just ripe for abuse. The whole ADA should be reviewed and revised .I expect this may raise some ire but I'm going to say it anyway. Has anyone but me noticed one particularly common trait of the "disabled' that ride around stores shopping malls etc. on carts?
My observation is that most of them are grossly overweight and I suspect that their "disability" could be cured with a stringent diet!
I am NOT in favor of curtailing accommodations of those with genuine disabilities but I honestly believe there's real abuse in this area.
My observation is that most of them are grossly overweight and I suspect that their "disability" could be cured with a stringent diet!
I am NOT in favor of curtailing accommodations of those with genuine disabilities but I honestly believe there's real abuse in this area.
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One thing I've not seen mentioned are those people who drive their car with the placard still hanging from the rear view mirror. Only speaking for Michigan, they all state: Remove before driving, as they create a huge blind spot.
My daughter has had one almost from the day she started driving. She's received snide comments from people who don't know she was born with spina bifida, had two operations for a tethered spinal cord, hip surgery at 4, and suffers partial paralysis. College was a real treat. First year students weren't allowed cars, but they made an exception for her (which made her popular with a lot of freshmen). The problem was the college didn't have anywhere near enough adequate parking, let alone handicap parking, and she was often forced to park in no parking zones, then fight the ticket she inevitably got.
I think the picture idea is great, even though the last time she got her placard renewed, I had to do it for her because she was in the hospital. I guess I could put on a wig.
My daughter has had one almost from the day she started driving. She's received snide comments from people who don't know she was born with spina bifida, had two operations for a tethered spinal cord, hip surgery at 4, and suffers partial paralysis. College was a real treat. First year students weren't allowed cars, but they made an exception for her (which made her popular with a lot of freshmen). The problem was the college didn't have anywhere near enough adequate parking, let alone handicap parking, and she was often forced to park in no parking zones, then fight the ticket she inevitably got.
I think the picture idea is great, even though the last time she got her placard renewed, I had to do it for her because she was in the hospital. I guess I could put on a wig.
darmtn1917
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"My observation is that most of them are grossly overweight and I suspect that their "disability" could be cured with a stringent diet!"
Just a thought: could it be that the weight is because they have a disability that keeps them from exercising -
Just a thought: could it be that the weight is because they have a disability that keeps them from exercising -
jag312
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I reported someone in writing to the California DMV. I included all pertinent information. This woman freely told everyone how her chiropractor and her scammed the DMV into issuing her a handicapped license plate. She was happy about what she accomplished.
Do you know what the California DMV did? Absolutely nothing. They called me back, and told me that as long as the forms had been completed correctly, they had no further interest.
One more reason that I left California.
I think that answer would be appropriate. Unless this person is taking a space that YOU need, it's really none of your business.
BUFF
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"Do you know what the California DMV did? Absolutely nothing. They called me back, and told me that as long as the forms had been completed correctly, they had no further interest."
I can't think of anybody less qualified to make decisions about peoples' health than a DMV worker.
I can't think of anybody less qualified to make decisions about peoples' health than a DMV worker.
I have a hang nail can I get a card? J/K, I'm the guy that always parks in the back of a parking lot and walks. Usually walking past people that are still circling around and around looking for a spot up close.
Once again. ..
Thats not the point. I don't need it but someone else may. Someone who actually has a handicap. It's not all about if I need it. You have vets, old people, people born with disabilities. So I should just say screw it?
I can see maybe not wanting to wait around if you randomly saw someone parking illegally in the handicap space but here is an opportunity to do something because I don't have to wait for a cop or whomever to show up. I'm there for 10 hours regardless.
I really don't like putting to much personal info online but this place, among other things, manufactures HANDICAP VEHICLES. You'd think there would be a few handicap clients no? Just last Saturday we had a young vet come in. He had gotten braces for his legs after years of being in a wheel chair. Luckily he came on Saturday when she is off. Otherwise tuff luck buddy i don't need that space so it's your problem.
Anyway. ...I get the gist. Essentially if it doesn't effect you personally who cares.
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amazingflapjack
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Well, it ain't how the individual looks or acts, or what they drive, it's what's going on in that person. This state issues disabled veteran tags to vets that are total and permanent-including for motorcycles. I have one on my bike. This society is quick to judge disabled folks, but lack real knowledge about what it means. I remember when the woman who won the Miss handicapped pageant was seen getting out of her wheel chair in able to enter her car. Some bright bird "exposed" her in the media the next day. I guess they thought she levitated out of the chair to do the multitude of tasks that were needed outside of the wheel chair. When your working in this society, all is well, but become disabled, and /or go on workman's comp, and you're a pariah. I used to think all those with placards that actually belonged to them were a bunch of slackers. Then I became disabled.
Absalom
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And that's precisely why they do not make those decisions in any state that I'm aware of.
If an authorized health care provider, usually a doctor, signs the appropriate forms certifying that you have a qualifying disability, a DMV worker does not have the authority to say "Well, this busybody from your work says that you don't act like you're really disabled, so I'm not going to give you a placard."
There is no question that a lot of states make it too easy and a lot of doctors sign the forms too freely, because they want to keep their patients happy and have nothing to lose by signing, but could face liability if they don't and the patient ends up falling while walking across the parking lot. So why chance that?
Yes, some people illegally use (possibly deceased) grandma's placard, but many more get them quite legally from their friendly doctor. At that point, taking it away becomes a matter of due process like everything. And I don't know how things are in your state, but if I see the lines at the DMV, it's kinda obvious that they don't have unlimited resources to go after every soft-hearted doctor or chiropractor unless you're willing to pay a LOT more for your car registration and license renewal. And let's not get started on police priorities....
Lest anyone gets the impression that I don't share the OP's anger at the abuse, I do. I have dealt with a somewhat serious health issue for over a decade now that on occasion puts me on crutches and in a wheelchair, and I have a permanent placard for that reason, which I only use if needed. And I'm quite ruthless when others' violations are obvious and affect me. I take credit for two $500 tickets I got people for in one case parking without a placard in the only available HC spot and in the other case parking on the white stripes so I couldn't get into my driver side door. (Knowing most of my local PD personally helps getting a speedy response everytime.) But such cases are clear-cut violations with no grey area, and I'm the victim. Neither applies to the OP's situation.
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armallard
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Ok I'm disabled I had a stroke had to re learn how to walk at the age of 39 I fell and broke my patella the next year had 7 surgeries to finally start walking for the second time since my stroke. I still have no use out of my left hand and arm. If you look at me unless you see my my left arm dangling around you wouldn't think I'm disabled. I do get pissed when I have to park on the the north 40 when I'm lloking for a place to park and see a 300 lb. person get out of a vehicle and walk in perfectly in with a placard I only park in a handicap spot when I'm really tired and going to be walking a while. I do walk walk with a large limp in my left leg,I'm a hardheaded *** that works my a%%%%ss off at PT clinic to get back to where I was before my stroke but never will a 100%
You are correct. However, the proprietor chooses to make those spaces available for customers that have need of them, not for people that just want a closer parking space & are too lazy to walk a few extra feet. That is the whole point of this thread, I believe...
