M&P triggers

[brucear77]

I have a 45 and a 9mm that I bought in 2010 I do not see the need to change the Triggers on these guns at all. I have put 1000s of rounds through each gun and I know when the trigger is going to break and when it's going to reset and they are both smooth triggers and for the sights I see no need to change them either because when the SHTF you are not going to be thinking about the trigger and trying to line up the sights you're going to point and pull the trigger and if somebody tells you that you are going to take the time and line up the sides and know when the trigger is going to break and when it is going to reset they're full of s***.
What do you all think about this

 

[brucear77]

Smith & Wesson it's a great fighting pistol the way they come all this sights and Trigger thing is just a gimmick for you to spend more money

 

[SickMAK90]

My newer M&Ps are pretty gritty stock but with some live and dry firing they smooth up. I really don't see why everyone immediately changes the trigger.

 

[Shield9mm]

I currently have a FS9, FS45, shield 9, and 22c, had a 9c but sold it. The triggers were ok, the 45 and 9c had a super smooth trigger but no reset at all. The FS9 and the shield had a good reset but the shield was a bit gritty.
I really like every single one of them, I had glocks before other than the grip and the new crappy finish I have no other complain about them, not trying to start a debate which one is better, it is just my personal opinion and preference.
M&P trigger is usually heavier, and having no reset it really bothers me especially when shooting at the range. I agree with you on a possible defensive scenario you are going to be paying attention to those details, but again IMO trigger pull, over travel and reset counts to keep you on target, to do quicker and faster follow up shots.
I ended upgrading the triggers on all my guns with apex triggers, FSS kit on the FS9 and FS45 and the duty carry kit with the apex trigger on the shield, and I am much happier now. You don't know what you are missing when you haven't tried anything else.

 

[dougb1946]

Unless things go south quickly, my MP is a target pistol. A smoother trigger always helps when shooting paper, and never hurts if it turns to self defense. The new parts are not mandatory.

 

[scattershot]

I found that most of the grittiness comes from the striker block safety. Take that out, clean the channel it rides in, and polish the heck out of it. I guarantee you will see results.

 

[Lee in Quartzsite]

You don't know what you are missing when you haven't tried anything else.

True statement. I changed only the striker block's in my and my wife's 9 Compacts and polished the trigger bar where it contacts the striker block. That alone made the trigger smooth as glass.

Details

I was going to try and use my 45 Compact for bullseye competition so I installed the Apex trigger kit. It made a huge improvement in the accuracy of the gun...but not good enough for Bullseye. For that I bought a Sprinfield Range Officer 1911 in 45ACP.....

 

[ggibson511960]

Well Said

I have a 45 and a 9mm that I bought in 2010 I do not see the need to change the Triggers on these guns at all. I have put 1000 rounds through each gun and I know when the trigger is going to break and when it's going to reset and they are both smooth triggers and for the sights I seen you no need to change them either because when the SHTF you are not going to be thinking about the trigger and trying to line up the sights you're going to point and pull the trigger and if somebody tells you that you are going to take the time and line up the sides and know when the trigger is going to break and when it is going to reset they're full of s***.
What do you all think about this

It's a funny market that S&W is selling M&P's to. My guess is that the vast majority of trigger pulls on live ammunition are at a circular bullseye target with the owner focused on the sights. They are practicing for a SHTF situation, and it helps, but we know a lot of that fine accuracy worry goes right out the window, and reliability is what really matters. Police officers that have regular, demonstrated marksmanship capability routinely miss half their shots fired at an offender. Please no flaming. It is great hobby fun to practice and tinker, but in the end, if that unlikely event happens, it is point and pull, and that is why Glock, S&W and others have sold so many of this variety. I chuckle a bit at the "glass smooth" triggers that some have achieved with this and that modification or parts kit, but nobody is kidding themselves that M&P's are target pistols beyond 25 yards. I like mine, but my 60 year old Daisy Model 25 BB gun has a trigger that feels pretty much like any M&P, and that is not a totally bad thing on a pistol that often does not have a safety and will be used in a panic situation.

 

[Bob O]

Take a look at any number of police and surveillance videos where the good guys are doing the shooting. Keep track of how often they miss when they're not aiming. Then get out on the range and shoot while moving around, and without aiming, and see if you hit anything.

If missing is acceptable, then by all means don't use the sights. Missing is not acceptable to me at practical distances.

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[brucear77]

What ever you think

 

[Quanah]

Take a look at any number of police and surveillance videos where the good guys are doing the shooting. Keep track of how often they miss when they're not aiming. Then get out on the range and shoot while moving around, and without aiming, and see if you hit anything.

If missing is acceptable, then by all means don't use the sights. Missing is not acceptable to me at practical distances.

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I can easily recall 8 'save my *** right now' uses of a service pistol over a 34 year span. Most were using a Glock with an 8# trigger. In all except one, at fencing distances, I saw my sights. In the majority I shot one handed. Never missed once.

 

[clarkz71]

Smith & Wesson it's a great fighting pistol the way they come all this
sights and Trigger thing is just a gimmick for you to spend more money

If you've never shot a good trigger gun like a Colt Gold Cup 1911
then you won't think the M&P trigger sucks. It does. Even a Glock is better

S&W "claims" the M&P9 Standard has a 6½ # trigger stock
And the Pro Series 4½ to 5½. They don't.

My M&P9 FS had an 8½ lb trigger stock, lot of pre travel & grit.
Now with the Apex FSS Flat face trigger, a little take up and 4½ break.

Just bought a M&P9 Pro Series 5". 6½ trigger, but still
a lot of take up, grit from the striker block.
And these guns claim they go through the Performance center?

Sights are great on the Pro I have to say.

 

[clarkz71]

I'll also add to my above post that I'm a long time Glock "fanboy"
and switched to M&P platform because the ergos and internal design
are so much better then the simple Glock design with the 2x4 grip.

I really like the M&P all around and knew I would have to do the trigger going in.

If you shoot the stock trigger well, then you're GTG.

 

[SickMAK90]

I really don't think the glock trigger is really better than the m&p, they both suck. That being said all the triggers on my M&Ps feel different (weight, grit) than one another while every glock I've owned feels pretty much the same as every other.

My advise to anyone who gets and m&p is to shoot it and dry fire it about 500 times before you change the trigger. After the grittiness goes away I find the trigger to be very usable.

 

[Kenny53]

Smith & Wesson it's a great fighting pistol the way they come all this sights and Trigger thing is just a gimmick for you to spend more money

I am going to agree with you. I do have an Apex trigger on one of my M&P's. It was in the gun when I got it.

I do practice and try for the smallest groups I can get. I also shoot 5-7 yards just about as fast as I can safely pull the trigger to see if I can hit the target in a stressful situation. I am pretty sure if I am in a SD situation I won't be able to take the perfect stance, line up my sights, and ensure I have the best grip. But that's me.

 

[jim46ok]

I found that most of the grittiness comes from the striker block safety. Take that out, clean the channel it rides in, and polish the heck out of it. I guarantee you will see results.

I smoothed mine out somewhat before I Cerakoted it. Cerakote is a baked-on ceramic, and leaves almost a "lubricated" feel. My Shield trigger (with Apex) is now under 5 lbs and smooth.

Rather than a "gimmick" some shooters like the satisfaction of improving the feel and predictability for target and competition use. My 9mm is soon becoming my favorite pistol.....

 

[clarkz71]

I have a 45 and a 9mm that I bought in 2010 I do not see the need
to change the Triggers on these guns at all. I have put 1000 rounds through each gun

6 years, 1000 rounds on each. That's less the 200 rounds a year. 4 boxes

I can see why the trigger is not a priority to you.
You don't shoot enough to need a good trigger. Just sayin.......

 

[cas0586]

What is available for the 45 Shield?

 

[SickMAK90]

M&P triggers

I shoot at least 100 rounds a week through mine. Guns vary but I try to shoot at least 100 rounds through a pistol weekly.

 

[palmettostate1]

Smith & Wesson it's a great fighting pistol the way they come all this sights and Trigger thing is just a gimmick for you to spend more money

Well, I could have lived with the triggers because I don't really feel the take-up or reset after the buzzer goes off, but the sights are much more user friendly with the 10-8 rear and fiber optic front.