Range Brass For The Beginning Reloader

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Considering the cost of reloading components, it’s difficult to walk past once-fired range brass lying underfoot. Even if you try to limit yourself to recovering your personal brass, it’s often difficult to segregate yours from someone else’s. After a while, it’s just easier to recover brass and to prep it as though it all came from strangers’ guns.

Range brass is often a free source of reloadable casings but not without certain pitfalls. I’ve picked up 9mm Winchester and “WCC” (Western Cartridge Co.) whose extractor groove is too shallow to enter a standard RCBS #16 shell holder. My case preparation begins on a single-stage RCBS Rockchucker. I can only wonder why these cases apparently don’t conform to SAAMI specs.

I discard any brass that shows obvious signs of having been reloaded by someone else. This can include die or sizing marks or a rim with multiple extractor marks. Marks can include someone else’s Magic Marker coding anywhere on the shell. It doesn’t mean the brass is bad, only that it’s easy to recover more than I need so I can be a bit choosey.

Where outdoor ranges use gravel, small pieces of stone sometimes become wedged inside the casings and you can break your de-capping pin if you don’t insure that the casings are free of debris. Range brass sometimes comes plugged up with mud or turf. I also discard brass that’s gone underfoot on concrete walks as well as brass that got damaged or dented leaving or trying to leave the gun.

Another hazard are Berdan-primed cases. Berdan priming utilizes twin, offset flash holes rather than a single centered flash hole. They cannot be de-capped with standard domestic reloading equipment. With 9mm and .45 ACP, you just have to look into the case to see whether or not it’s Berdan-primed. Except for CCI in their non-reloadable ammunition line, domestic manufacturers do not use Berdan priming but you’ll encounter it on lots of imported military surplus ammo.

It’s best to not even try to reload rifle brass with foreign military headstamps. If you recover a bunch of unknown brass, sacrifice one and cut the back end off to ascertain whether it’s Berdan primed.

Military brass frequently utilizes crimped primers. You can de-prime them on your equipment but the crimps must be removed before you can go any further. The tools are inexpensive and crimps may either be reamed or swaged away. You can usually tell that crimps are present as you'll feel a bit more resistance when de-capping.

Speaking of primers, .45 ACP ammunition is now available with both large and small primer pockets. .45 ACP reloaders already know this. They’ll size and de-prime without incident but try to seat a large primer in a small primer pocket and you’ll mangle the primer. I should know. Several small-primed .45 ACP cases recently snuck past my brass prepping stage to bring my Dillon 550B press to a crunching halt.

.45 ACP shooters need to avoid .45 GAP cases and visa versa. .380 ACP and 9mm Makarov brass is easily confused with 9mm. Often, military brass has arsenal, date, manufacturer and type codes but doesn’t have its caliber on the headstamp. There are at least three names in use for the 9mm: 9mm Luger, 9X19mm and 9mm Parabellum. Eley uses the headstamp “9.P.” There are also 9X21 and 9X23mm cases out there. I’m inclined to think that people shooting the latter 9mms are usually reloaders and will make every effort to recover their brass. You won’t find these elongated 9mms at Walmart or your neighborhood gun shop.

The easiest way to provoke a heated and animated thread is to stumble across one of the perennial hot-button issues. Using reloads for self-defense is one of those topics. So, I won’t go there other than to recommend that the best brass for assembling self defense loads, if you're so disposed, are either once-fired brass from your gun or virgin brass. I’ve only heard good things about Starline Brass, a popular source for new brass.
 
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When having trouble inserting a once fired case into a shell holder, take a look at the primer first. I was coming across cases that I thought had a "tight " extractor groove. Even after deepening the groove they didn't fit !
It was the primers , protruding just enough to keep them from going into the shell holder. After filing down the slight protrusion, every one went right into the holder.

Excellent post on range brass , every one needs a close inspection before you go to reloading .
In the 1960's I picked up buckets at the local outdoor range. Now I'm old ,fat (stooping over hurts) and lazy I can buy 1500 fired 9mm cases from the indoor range for $12.00...but inspection is vital, I found 38 super's and 380 auto's in there and one berdan primed case.
Once fired range brass is a bargain but look at them carefully.
Gary ,
Scrounging since 1967
 
The indoor pistol range to which I belong has a locked container for members to dispose of their unwanted brass. Even though the container's label specifies brass only and no aluminum or steel, the guy who sorts through it every few weeks finds lot of real scrap metal in there.

And "once-fired" brass isn't always what it appears. A fellow member of the other club to which I belong watched a father and son eject the cases from a box of .300 Remington Short Action Ultra Mag cartridges and from their conversation, mannerisms and the condition of the cartridge box and the cases, he assumed they were factory loads. He knows how hard to find (and costly when you do) new brass for the SAUM cartridges can be so he kept them for me.

As soon as I saw silver primers in Remington cases, they went into the trash. It was hard to do but I value my rifles and myself over the cost of some new brass. After all, those guys obviously were either handloaders themselves or bought handloads from someone else. Either they knew how many loadings were on those cases or the person who loaded them didn't want them kept, likely for a good reason.

I almost rumaged through my gun room trash can for them a couple of times but resisted the temptation.

Ed
 
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Good discussion. I can tell you from experience, once you integrate bum range brass into your inventory, it can be tough to find and irrigate it back out. Last year I absentmindedly I dumped some mil surplus 9mm brass and it has cost me many a decapping pin since.
Now I look twice and pick sparingly if at all.
 
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I stopped reloading range brass when I began to get neck cracks on perfectly good range brass. Like AveragEd, my guns cost to much to try and save pennies.

I still pick it up because I can't help myself. Now it goes in my recycling bucket.
 
Another trick I use is to take a handful and shake them loosely. If I hear a ringing sound I know there is a split case in my hand.


Beyond inspection, I would not (and don't) hesitate to use brass I pick up. I have never heard of anyone hurting a gun using brass that has already been reloaded and fired by someone else. Now shooting someone else's reloads is a different story.
 
I mark all my brass, number the times I reload and I still pick up and use range brass. I do however, give them a very good inspection. The best thing to do is run them through the polisher first, it shows all the flaws and problems much better. Than I process for reloading. Never had a problem with any of the brass that passed my inspection and scrutiny.Hey for the most part brass is 1/2 the cost or more of the reloading process.
 
Generally, you're still dealing with second-rate material for handloading when you use range pickup brass. Give yourself an advantage and use new stuff from the same lot or at least once-fired brass with the same headstamp.

Brass is more expensive than ever, but when amortized over its useful life, the cost of new or once-fired is quite reasonable and you know it's history.
 
The price of brass causes me to save all my brass. I shoot then later I will be down on the ground picking up my brass. But that is at my range in my back yard. A lot of ranges around here don't let shooters pick up brass. The range picks it up and sells it I guess.
 
I sweep up every case I can at the range. I sort it, eliminating non brass, rimfire, shotgun, berdan primed, calibers I don't reload, and all other obvious culls.

The rest gets inspected*, deprimed, and cleaned in a tumbler with SS pins, and then it all goes in my reloading stock. When I reload, I just grab what I need out of the appropriate stock.

*Inspection is the critical key step that makes it work. That's my chance to eliminate potential case/head separations, split lips or walls, crimped or enlarged primer pockets, smiley faces, oddball lookalikes like 9mm makarov, small primer 45acp, debris or foreign objects, etc., etc., etc..

I couldn't care less if someone else shot it or reloaded it. If it passes inspection, it is a candidate for reloading.

Been doing it that way for years. Never broke any decapping pins. Never encountered SAAMI brass that wouldn't fit into the appropriate shell holder.(If it's that non-standard, I would think that a pistol's extractor would have trouble extracting it.) Never blew up a gun.

I realize that a beginning reloader is probably not the most adept at recognizing potential dangerous brass, and should always err on the side of caution, but one should not overthink the situation.
 
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When I started reloading, I bought a box of 50 9mm 115gr bullets. Shot them and then began to reload. The range I belong to has a cement floor and a roof so the brass I pick up has not hit the ground. About 50% of members reload so you have to be quick to get the brass. It is usually swept up by the shooters very often and either kept for themselves or dumped into specified containers that everyone fishes in. At the end of the day, the range collects what is left and I guess they sell it.
I now have a couple of thousand 9mm and almost a thousand .38 spec.. I do decap, clean and inspect them, save by headstamp.
It's part of the fun of reloading:):):)
 
Years back the kids would forget to bring the store bought brass and cases home after an outing.

I picked up range brass but also placed it base down and picked out the "Bright" once fired cases and then did a second inspection on the type of primers.

Today my pistol cases that fly every where when fired are in good numbers.
Nice when the kids and in-laws remember to pick up their brass
and bring it to me.
I too am getting to the point that I would rather buy the cases, than bend over and go through the hassle of finding good cases.

However I do have one old "Tank" that I feed any thing too, in cases, bullet types and any powder! I mean ANY !! :D
Just too bad IMR 4227 stove pipes now and them. Bummer.
 
Years back the kids would forget to bring the store bought brass and cases home after an outing.

I picked up range brass but also placed it base down and picked out the "Bright" once fired cases and then did a second inspection on the type of primers.

Today my pistol cases that fly every where when fired are in good numbers.
Nice when the kids and in-laws remember to pick up their brass
and bring it to me.
I too am getting to the point that I would rather buy the cases, than bend over and go through the hassle of finding good cases.

However I do have one old "Tank" that I feed any thing too, in cases, bullet types and any powder! I mean ANY !! :D
Just too bad IMR 4227 stove pipes now and them. Bummer.

OK, I'll bite: ol' "Tank" is a...?:confused:
 
I have found thousands of perfectly good name brand, once fired Brass at my Clubs Range but as Federali has stated above, one must scrutinize what they bring home! Many times I even find the cartridges neatly put back into the original box before they toss then into the can. :eek:

Because of many variances, it is best to look at the Brass at the Range and only take home what matches your criteria. Separate all small and large primer .45's before taking home so they do not get mixed accidentally. Personally, I toss all small primer .45acp as I am NOT interested in having two different size primers on my .45 acp brass. After so many years of reloading I've got more than enough that I do not bother with the relatively new small primer .45 acp Brass.

I find it's better to scrutinize at the Range - this way an accidental mixing up at home can't occur. :)
 
I use the push button of a pilot g2 pen to sort by primer size after I decap.
 
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