I HAVE FINALLY RAISED THE SURRENDER FLAG IN RELOADING 45ACP

There's always a bunch of discarded brass at the outdoor range I go to so I pick it all up, except 22lr, bring it home and sort through it.
The stuff that I can use goes in coffee cans for each caliber and the stuff I can't use goes in the scrap brass bucket.
It's a pain to separate the SP from the LP 45acp brass but I simplified and sped up the process by making a simple gauge out of an old plastic punch that fits in LP pockets but not SP pockets. No more tired eyes from squinting.
I don't reload the SP brass but clean it and keep it on hand in case I need to at some point.
 
Here's what you said, "Primers are readily available now, but ONLY in the small variety." Remington LPP can be had for $52.43/ 1,000, including shipping, if one orders 5,000. I'm done with this.

I clarified my comment. Once a month is not "readily". I CAN get them, but not readily.

Now that you said "Remington", I'm done as well. Problems with that brand of anything go back more than 25 years. If you sent me a Remington whatever for free I would pass.
 
I started reloading 45acp brass about 45 years ago and the sole reason for that was my indoor pistol range did not allow the use of jacketed bullets. They were afraid of ricochets apparently ...


Of course now I need to spend hours separating SPP / LPP brass but at the same time I get to inspect the cartridges for cracks and issues.
Now Indoor Ranges do not allow lead bullets and require plated or jacketed bullets. Now they afraid of airborne lead poisonings.

SPP/LPP is not a problem for me as I have always inspected the brass for the 50+ years I reloaded.
 
I only bought new brass when I was hand loading for match ammo for big matches and I still saved a lot of money over buying factory match ammo.

I got lucky when I was stationed in Ca. at a Marine Barracks. We had a training allocation of 50,000 rounds of .45AC for training our security force. The TZZ headstamped ammo was being destroyed (another story). We called the issue point at Camp Pendleton and requested a reissue of training ammo. Because we were a security force for a highly classified area, we were put at the head of the list and told to come down and pick it up. I rode down with the detail to do so. When we got there and they started loading it, I noticed it was Winchester Western Match ammo. I asked the M/Sgt. that ran the issue point and he said that is all I have to issue you. So we took it and shot it up for training. Broke my heart watching it go down range and not in a match. My 1stSgt and I each to a couple of ammo cans full of the once fired brass home for reloading. I still have 33 pounds of once fired, cleaned and deprimed brass put away.
 
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Now Indoor Ranges do not allow lead bullets and require plated or jacketed bullets. Now they afraid of airborne lead poisonings.

SPP/LPP is not a problem for me as I have always inspected the brass for the 50+ years I reloaded.

As I posted before, my range prohibited FMJ because of backstop damage. Our $250,000 range upgrade included the backstop AND ventilation, so now we can accept jacketed and the use of lead is now safe.
 
Now Indoor Ranges do not allow lead bullets and require plated or jacketed bullets. Now they afraid of airborne lead poisonings.

SPP/LPP is not a problem for me as I have always inspected the brass for the 50+ years I reloaded.

The indoor range I belong to has no restrictions on lead or jacketed. They al have the best venting system I have ever seen in an indoor range!

Whenever the weather is conducive, we prefer to shoot at our outdoor range. Not only do I get to shoot pistols, but I can shoot rifles up to 300 yards. Since we are outdoors, I can also puff on a cigar too! :)
 
OMG, I can't believe that a reloader hasn't shopped around to get the best deals. There is a website called ammoseek.com. This isn't directed to you, but whomever said to buy new Starline brass must not reload!

I suggested he buy Star-Line. I reload nearly everything I shoot, I did buy 2 boxes of Hornady 405 WCF. But, empties were not available then. When they were I bought them.

Kevin
 
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Those that "hate" and revile against SPP changes should be put in a rest home. Rooms with black and white TVs that only show reruns of Gomer Pyle USMC. Serve only S.O.S. dinners and (powdered) scrambled eggs. Sunday meals are Swanson Fried Chicken TV dinners. No newspapers newer than 1960 and only Noir moves in the rec room.
What, no Price is Right, Wheel of Fortune or Jeopardy? Torture! Sh_t on a Shingle is pretty good stuff and Swanson, I can handle. Got used to powdered eggs in RVN. Newspapers, who actually reads newspapers, these days? Well, I could live without the small tv, just as long as I have the internet!:) SPP advocates in .45 ACP brass should have to drink their Enfamil in a sippy cup!
 
I'm waiting for them to come out with MPP (Medium Pistol Primers) ;)

I have more .45 brass than I'll ever use, much of it with headstamps like 'WCC 65', 'LC 71' 'Super Vel', 'Peters' and entire tubs full of my old PD's Speer nickeled cases.
 
I'm waiting for them to come out with MPP (Medium Pistol Primers) ;)

I have more .45 brass than I'll ever use, much of it with headstamps like 'WCC 65', 'LC 71' 'Super Vel', 'Peters' and entire tubs full of my old PD's Speer nickeled cases.
You have LC 71 .45? Please add a picture of it.
 
Perhaps it's because of my machinist/mechanic background that I can visually tell the difference between small pistol and large pistol primer pockets. If I haven't sorted any in a while, I set one of each, case head, up so I can see them and refresh my memory. Takes about 10-15 cases before I'm just looking and dropping a case in appropriate box...
 
Collecting brass at my private range ended with covid. There's no brass in the recycle bins these days, just steel cased garbage. There are some indoor ranges nearby but any brass that goes beyond the firing line is theirs. Also one county run range (public) that doesn't allow brass rats scurrying around picking up brass. They keep all of it and sell it for scrap.

I've collected enough 45 acp LP brass over the years to not need anymore. I took advantage of scrounging brass back when there was lots of brass being left at my range. Literally hundreds of cases of 45 acp, .223 and 9mm there every time I went. Thursday was open to the public and the bins were full on Friday.

If there was brass I needed that I couldn't get at the range I just bought it from SL. That's been .357, 32 Long and 38 Short Colt.

I'm not sure what the problem is with brass. It's available everywhere most of the time. It isn't like primers and powder, which isn't. Just stock up when you find it and go on about your business. Problem solved.
 
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It's easier to sort by headstamp to find them. All the Vista brands are going small primer. Federal, Speer, Blazer etc. It seems like it's going that way more. I for one like it, don't have to change the press over and only one component to stock since I don't load anything else that uses LPP.
 
It may be.....

I'm still trying to get my head around a range that bans FMJ bullets.

...the construction of the baffle/traps. However I don't see where hard cast would be a lot better. Anyway, the ranges I go to won't allow iron core ammo. Which makes it a little tough to use 5.56 military type stuff and 7.62 x 39 from TullAmmo or whoverer that isn't hollow point. I have some 5.56 from the Israeli Defense Force the appeared to be soft point, but when I held up a magnet to the points they stuck like glue.
 
Collecting brass at my private range ended with covid. There's no brass in the recycle bins these days, just steel cased garbage. There are some indoor ranges nearby but any brass that goes beyond the firing line is theirs. Also one county run range (public) that doesn't allow brass rats scurrying around picking up brass. They keep all of it and sell it for scrap.

I've collected enough 45 acp LP brass over the years to not need anymore. I took advantage of scrounging brass back when there was lots of brass being left at my range. Literally hundreds of cases of 45 acp, .223 and 9mm there every time I went. Thursday was open to the public and the bins were full on Friday.

If there was brass I needed that I couldn't get at the range I just bought it from SL. That's been .357, 32 Long and 38 Short Colt.

I'm not sure what the problem is with brass. It's available everywhere most of the time. It isn't like primers and powder, which isn't. Just stock up when you find it and go on about your business. Problem solved.

Our local range requires you to police up your brass after you finish firing. You can keep your own brass of course. They discourage you from taking brass from the collection buckets or the brass barrels that the buckets are emptied into for reclamation. Other folks can give you their brass if they want to do so.

The only brass that I have purchased from Starline is .32 H&R Magnum and .38 ACP. Those you do not see at the range.
 
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