Ozark Marine
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Does that mean you can get some and ship to my FFL even though I'm not LEO, responder or retired military?
Police Trade-in 640s at Centerfire
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Does that mean you can get some and ship to my FFL even though I'm not LEO, responder or retired military?
alwaysoutdoors
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Smoking deal. I went a day or two ago out of curiosity to the site and they were sold out.
S&Wrevolverfan
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Finally found a few minutes to go out and put a few rounds through my 640-1. This is one sweet shooter even with my bad old eye sight and shooting off hand.
I could only shoot at about 25 feet due to constraints but all the rounds went into a very tight group and centered right where I wanted them and the revolver was very pleasant to shoot. The first round was off low but centered but once I saw that and made the sight adjustment I had no problem putting the rounds where I wanted them.
I was only using .38 special and I know it wouldn't be that pleasant with .357. It's now loaded with Speer 135 grain +P .38 special short barrel.
I am very happy with this revolver. I wish I had bought two.
I could only shoot at about 25 feet due to constraints but all the rounds went into a very tight group and centered right where I wanted them and the revolver was very pleasant to shoot. The first round was off low but centered but once I saw that and made the sight adjustment I had no problem putting the rounds where I wanted them.
I was only using .38 special and I know it wouldn't be that pleasant with .357. It's now loaded with Speer 135 grain +P .38 special short barrel.
I am very happy with this revolver. I wish I had bought two.
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The USPS came through!. The second 640 has the newer thumb latch and MIM trigger and the S&W logo is smaller. It was also gummed up around the rubber stocks and internals pretty bad.
The finish is typical of what has been reported by the forum members that have picked these up. I'm well pleased with both of them.
It was an easy clean up though and the timing and lock up and trigger seem to be spot on. I would like to find someone local that could do a bead blast finish on them.
Here are a couple of pictures with both 640's.
The USPS came through!. The second 640 has the newer thumb latch and MIM trigger and the S&W logo is smaller. It was also gummed up around the rubber stocks and internals pretty bad.
The finish is typical of what has been reported by the forum members that have picked these up. I'm well pleased with both of them.
It was an easy clean up though and the timing and lock up and trigger seem to be spot on. I would like to find someone local that could do a bead blast finish on them.
Here are a couple of pictures with both 640's.
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I also have pre- and post-MIM 640-1s. Hogue Tamers on post- and S&W-logo Bantam grips on the pre-, love 'em both. I can't tell any significant performance difference between the forged & MIM triggers. Likewise the different thumb latches and the S&W logo being smaller on my post-MIM 640-1.
There is a subtle difference I noticed - the opening in the barrel underlug is slightly longer in my post-MIM 640-1. You see something similar looking near the muzzle, between the pin in the underlug and the opening?
I received mine yesterday and noticed after I got home that the scroll marks are very light. It looks like they were laser etched instead of being stamped. Overall I would rate the gun as good as it has a lot of scratches and a few burs. It doesn't look like it's been shot very much.
Paul, I'm glad that yours arrived, and you are happy with them. I was with Old Corp when his arrived yesterday. It was a little rough but it shot well well, until we got to the "full tilt" .357 magnum ammo
. The revolver handled it better than either one on us did. Next time I'm down that way we'll get up for coffee or a bite to eat, OK..Fred
Paul, I'm glad that yours arrived, and you are happy with them. I was with Old Corp when his arrived yesterday. It was a little rough but it shot well well, until we got to the "full tilt" .357 magnum ammo
Fred
Looking forward to it.
I did shoot the first 640 but with 38's. I'll put some 357's through them soon!!
gman51
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I received my 640 today and I am very pleased with it. I would say this gun was not shot or at most only a few times. The cylinder faces are practically like new. The SS side plate surfaces had some marring but no nicks or dings or pits. The grips even look very good.
I used 1500 grit paper with buffing compound and cleaned the marring up so the gun is looking very good.
I only removed the grips then I shot the insides with brake cleaner and a degreaser. There was minimal black came out with the brake clean but none after that. I then shot Liquid Wrench into the openings.
I would probably rate this gun at 90% condition now. I got this for $375 all said and done. Yep I am pleased.
The trigger compared to my LCR is a bit heavy but it is smooth all the way.
It looks like a crack in the side plate on one pic but that is just a hair or something because it isn't on the gun.
I used 1500 grit paper with buffing compound and cleaned the marring up so the gun is looking very good.
I only removed the grips then I shot the insides with brake cleaner and a degreaser. There was minimal black came out with the brake clean but none after that. I then shot Liquid Wrench into the openings.
I would probably rate this gun at 90% condition now. I got this for $375 all said and done. Yep I am pleased.
The trigger compared to my LCR is a bit heavy but it is smooth all the way.
It looks like a crack in the side plate on one pic but that is just a hair or something because it isn't on the gun.
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Hasbeen1945
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Lucky Eddie's and mine
They showed up today. I figured Eddie's would be brand new after his dilemma. But his 2 looked about like mine. Mine was real dirty but cleaned up real nice. It has the typical scratches from being carried. Just on the surface nothing deep. Took the side plate off and it was dry. Washed down with carb cleaner then sprayed it with Barricade. Runs real smooth after cleaning.
Back to Eddie, he left town yesterday for a hunting trip in Mexico. Called about 4pm today from his tower stand to see what his 2 looked like. I of course told him I cherry picked the 3 and got the best one. He believed me for a while until he remembered they were shipped by serial number.
By the way thanks to the OP. He found us a good deal.
They showed up today. I figured Eddie's would be brand new after his dilemma. But his 2 looked about like mine. Mine was real dirty but cleaned up real nice. It has the typical scratches from being carried. Just on the surface nothing deep. Took the side plate off and it was dry. Washed down with carb cleaner then sprayed it with Barricade. Runs real smooth after cleaning.
Back to Eddie, he left town yesterday for a hunting trip in Mexico. Called about 4pm today from his tower stand to see what his 2 looked like. I of course told him I cherry picked the 3 and got the best one. He believed me for a while until he remembered they were shipped by serial number.
By the way thanks to the OP. He found us a good deal.
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YeshuaIsa53
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Got mine today. It looks great, though feels dry and a bit dirty. Has the yellow paint on the front sight. After some flushing and lube, I may never get it back from the wife, though. Should have bought two.
This is a good thread with lots of follow up and reference.
For me, and I may be a bit intense when it comes to keeping my firearms clean and lubed up, how is it that these guns are so dirty. I know it takes a while for oil and grease to gum up; so where the majority of these ever cleaned and taken care of.......it appears not
Is this an indication of poor maintenance, lack of a skilled armorer or just plain neglect?
Obviously it doesn't take much to keep them pristine, it just seems like no one bothered. The wear and scuff marks really don't bother me at all but the carbon build up and gummed up oil and overall cleanliness is very non-professional. IMHO
For me, and I may be a bit intense when it comes to keeping my firearms clean and lubed up, how is it that these guns are so dirty. I know it takes a while for oil and grease to gum up; so where the majority of these ever cleaned and taken care of.......it appears not
Is this an indication of poor maintenance, lack of a skilled armorer or just plain neglect?
Obviously it doesn't take much to keep them pristine, it just seems like no one bothered. The wear and scuff marks really don't bother me at all but the carbon build up and gummed up oil and overall cleanliness is very non-professional. IMHO
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Ozark Marine
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Department issued sidearms. Like company cars.
Don't cost anything to the user. No pride of ownership.
Don't cost anything to the user. No pride of ownership.
Well, you guys saw what mine looked like inside...not too bad. As a former armorer, I can tell you that you mostly don't want most officers poking around inside of their revolvers (back when that was the gun) because most of them aren't gun guys, don't have the right tools, and there is also a liability issue when there is no accountability , not to mention that people's lives are on the line if bubba screws up his firearm. These may have been stored for quite a while, and had time for lube to dry out. Most of it will. Which is something for all of us to remember, especially if you're like me and have a gazillion guns...when was the last time you took a look under the hood, especially the safe queens that still get shot sometimes?
Reminder to self: how about a maintenance chart showing when I last checked each gun???
The other thing I remember from when we were switching to semis and trading in our revolvers. We were not offered any more on trade in if the guns were clean or not clean. The gun guys were busy learning the new guns mechanics, and training the officers on their new guns, so trade ins were not cleaned. Except that we were allowed to purchase our old guns for whatever Glock was offering for trade in.... Glock didn't really want them anyway, and the department came out the same either way, so most of the gun guys took advantage of that deal. Which meant that probably the worst guns were the ones sold by the dealers to the public somewhere.
Just some random meanderings.
Best Regards, Les
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Great post, Les. I can add that a lot of LEO are not gun-guys, at least that was the norm a couple decades ago. I remember at one of our certifications, one of the officers that rode with me as senior officer started shooting and his cylinder fell out! I know it was probably just a loose crane screw, but geez, he was my back-up!!! Bet that thing was dirty too! haha
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Got to put at least one cylinder of magnums through it. It is one of the reasons I put the oversize Sile grips on it.
I believe these are from the Michigan State police. These were their issued backup weapons. I e-mailed a sales rep at Kieslers and she only said it was a batch of guns from a "state police contract". Her words not mine. Some quick online research seemed to confirm this.
