Police Trade-in 640s at Centerfire

So, has anyone decided on leather??

Mine rides mostly in Andrews Custom Leather - either his Saddle Style pancake, his Monarch shoulder rig,

Andrews Custom Leather

or sometimes, in a DeSantis Nemisis pocket holster.
 

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I finally took the side plate and grips of my 640-1 last night. Clean as a whistle. Looks like the screws had something (Loctite) on them. Bore, chambers and everything else was as clean as a new gun. Just a lot of scratches on this one.
 
I finally took the side plate and grips of my 640-1 last night. Clean as a whistle. Looks like the screws had something (Loctite) on them. Bore, chambers and everything else was as clean as a new gun. Just a lot of scratches on this one.
Any advice on getting some side plate screws off. Mine are way tight and thought I was about to bugger the screw, so I thought I would wait a bit to figure it out.

I got the finish cleaned up a bit, and think I have a bit more to do. Have not shot it yet.

It looks like I have an early one, looking at the serial number. BUB47xx.

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Any advice on getting some side plate screws off. Mine are way tight and thought I was about to bugger the screw, so I thought I would wait a bit to figure it out.

I got the finish cleaned up a bit, and think I have a bit more to do. Have not shot it yet.

It looks like I have an early one, looking at the serial number. BUB47xx.

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Using the correct screwdriver is a must for the first step. With the bit sitting correctly in the screw slot, you can trying giving the back of the screwdriver a few light wacks with a hammer. This will often loosen frozen or locktighted screws. If several good wacks with the hammer don't loosen them, there's few other tricks. Soaking the area or whole gun in some form of solvent may help. Acetone is great for breaking up locktite. Sometimes putting the gun in the freezer over night then letting it warm back up will loosen things as the metals contract and expand. My last choice would be heating the screw up carefully, but you have to be careful or you can mess things up pretty quickly.
 
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Appreciate the suggestions.
I really like the bead blast look and I will try the grey Scotchbrite pad.

The left hole in my grip has enough "DNA" in it that I could probably make my own Michigan State Trooper.
:-p
 
My regret on these is I should have bought 4 of them and then spun off 2. I think I could have made enough to pay for one outright.

The reality is, if I had done that then I would have ended up with 4 640's because the 2 I do have are basically new guns someone carried around for a couple years and shot a little bit. I couldn't part with any of them.

Still I should have bought more than I did. In today's market, any time you find a S&W 357 that can be had in your hands for less than 400 dollars you are remiss if you don't buy it. We all know they are a finite set of pieces and beside being a real hoot to shoot are slowly going up in value.

(And they don't eat much sitting in the safe).
 
STAY AWAY FROM THE STEEL WOOL.



If you want the dull brushed shine the use the Grey 3m "scotchbrite" pad number 7448

Serger is right. I was unable to locate that particular Scotchbrite pad/sheet in my area and used a different one - a green Scotchbrite pad (3"x5") evidently intended for grill cleaning, as there's a graphic of a grill on the packaging.

After going over the 640 with this pad, always keeping the motion in one back-and-forth direction, it came out very nice, very much like the original finish. Not sure how much different this pad is from the #7448.
 
Serger is right. I was unable to locate that particular Scotchbrite pad/sheet in my area and used a different one - a green Scotchbrite pad (3"x5") evidently intended for grill cleaning, as there's a graphic of a grill on the packaging.

After going over the 640 with this pad, always keeping the motion in one back-and-forth direction, it came out very nice, very much like the original finish. Not sure how much different this pad is from the #7448.

We need pictures,:D
 
Well this has been an interesting thread.

I have to wonder just how many members of the forum bought one or more of these. I bet collectively we got quite a percentage of them, I think I read the second batch was 250. If it was 500 total, I bet we went well over 10%.

Thanks again.

I wish they'd get a few more, I keep checking their website, I think I missed out.
 
Alright, a pic of my 640 'Internet Special' (my new name for it, ala' 'Detective Special' :) )

First time in many years that I've screwed a set of new Pachmayr's on anything. Not real pleased with them. Regardless of how I placed them on, or how hard I screwed them together, a noticeable 1/16th in. gap remained on the front of the grip frame area. Even closed the gap with padded clamps overnight, and upon their release, the gap came back.

Phoned Pachmayr (part of Lyman now), and they're sending a replacement pair. We'll see.
I seem to recall the older Pach's for the J-round were two (2) piece grips and this issue did not occur.
I chose the Pach's because I have large hands, and intend on using some magnum ammo in this working gun. They're not huge, and are relatively flat.
 

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There are lots of bad reviews on the newer style Pacs. I went with the Hogue Tamer and am very pleased. It only hangs down 5/8" from the bottom of the grip frame but can hold all three fingers. And, it is padded at the web for those magnums! haha
 
Thanks to the tip from serger, I received my steel mainspring swivels today from Numrich Arms. I had ordered four of them, and am going to change them out in all of my J frame Magnums....the "new" 640-1, and also my 340 PD, M&P 340, and 640-1 Pro Series. Like serger, I would rather not have any plastic parts in my revolvers if I can help it. The price is very reasonable, and it only took about a minute to swap out the little cup, the only tool you need is a paper clip and a screwdriver to remove the stocks. Don't even need to remove the sideplate.

Here is the original plastic mainspring swivel ready to be replaced by a steel part. This is pretty easy to do, just push the swivel down the shaft, remove the paper clip, and slide the new swivel into place, replace the paper clip, and replace the unit into the gun. Pull the trigger back to take up the slack while removing the paper clip. Make sure that everything works, and replace the stocks. Takes longer to type this than to do the replacement.



Here is the new part installed, and being held in place by the paper clip:



And here is the mainspring unit back in the gun, ready to replace the stocks:



Now, as I said, I have three more of these little guns to go!!

Edit: just changed out the swivel in my 340 PD... Reminder, if you gun has the butt lanyard cut, watch out that the little lanyard pin doesn't fall out when you remove the stocks. No, mine didn't, but it was starting to slide out when I remembered to catch it!! Otherwise, just as easy as replacing the one on the 640-1, but need an Allen key for the issue factory stocks. Two more to go!

Best Regards, Les
 
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I went ahead and ordered a couple of the metal replacement swivels as well. Probably install mine when I go on vacation after next week. Will be a good time to hit the range as well. A couple revolvers, a few bottom feeders and a few hundred rounds. Ahhh, therapy.


On another note:

When I started this thread it was just to make sure our guys and gals had a chance at some of these 640's. I find it unbelievable that it has reached 400+ replies and over 20,000 views. Amazing.
 
John:

This has been an amazing thread. I not only have a new gun that I am very pleased about, I learned quite a bit in the process!! I am just tickled pink with this little gem, and at last count, I have three dozen Smith and Wesson revolvers alone... Not counting my Colts and other brands, or semi autos or long guns....there is just something that resonated with a bunch of us here on the forum in regards to this particular gun...no keyhole, stainless steel, 357 magnum, fantastic price, fun project, carried a lot, shot little, nice company to deal with, great customer service.... I think that everything just came together here, and I'm still excited about mine. Even got excited to experience a new brand of aftermarket stocks that I had been curious about.

Anyway, thanks again for starting the thread....

Best Regards, Les
 
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John:

This has been an amazing thread. I not only have a new gun that I am very pleased about, I learned quite a bit in the process!! I am just tickled pink with this little gem, and at last count, I have three dozen Smith and Wesson revolvers alone... Not counting my Colts and other brands, or semi autos or long guns....there is just something that resonated with a bunch of us here on the forum in regards to this particular gun...no keyhole, stainless steel, 357 magnum, fantastic price, fun project, carried a lot, shot little, nice company to deal with, great customer service.... I think that everything just came together here, and I'm still excited about mine. Even got excited to experience a new brand of aftermarket stocks that I had been curious about.

Anyway, thanks again for starting the thread....

Best Regards, Les

Like yourself Les I got the two mainspring swivels I ordered today and just replaced the one in my 640-1. Only takes like 2 minutes. Glad everyone is happy with theirs.
 

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