I never thought I'd be a Sig owner.....

[Brian in Oregon]

If anyone is thinking about a P250, they probably should jump on them now while there are still some at dealers and in distributor pipelines. SiG only catalogs the .22 LR version on their website now, no centerfires. Whether this is permanent, or temporary while they crank up P320 product, is anyone's guess.

I like that the P250 used the traditional looking SIG slide, but never liked the DAO action and the grip frame just didn't feel like the traditional metal frames. The SP2022 feels and looks more like the original guns, and is DA/SA.

The P320 seems interesting, but I've never cared for striker fired guns that did not have a manual safety. S&W offers that option. I wonder if SIG eventually will?

The Mosquito was a disaster. The pot metal slides kept breaking in two. Very poor design. If the slide had been machined from quality aluminum SIG would have had a winner.

At this point I'm sticking with the metal frame SIGs. Have a P220 45, P225 9mm, P226 in multiple calibers and a P227 45.

 

[Mister X]

I've recently seen them going for that new. I believe it's because they are being discontinued. They just never caught on and there seemed to be a lot of problems with them.

I was somewhat interested with them being true DAO guns and took a look at them, but read numerous not so favorable reviews and they were a bit too bulky IMO.

I hope you got a good one.

 

[Alexei]

I have a 1911 Ultra and like it a lot.

I too have an SIG-Ultra. Shot it for the first time this week. Excellent accuracy, and relatively mild recoil. I was VERY impressed. All around, much better than my S&W 1911.

 

[Amp]

Oh I like my Sig for autos and Smith for revolvers.
Both have high prices.
I am trying to stay away from plastic only because I prefer SA/DA.
My Shield(s) work fine.
You may have what you prefer now.

 

[ColbyBruce]

My Sig P250sc in a Bianchi UMH holster and a Don Hume JIT belt slide.

 

[ContinentalOp]

I have not handled or fired one, but a 250c has been on my radar for a possible future purchase for some time. I do like the modularity and the true DAO trigger. The biggest issue I have with them is the proprietary rear sight. Because of the way it's installed, the only replacement sights available are Sig's tritium and non-tritium sights. If those work for you, then no problem.

As far as the contracts go, I believe the Dutch military had ordered a large number of P250s, but Sig couldn't deliver both quantity and quality so the contract was canceled. I also believe ATF had a similar issue. Both canceled contracts involved the 1st generation guns. The issues have supposedly been fixed with the 2nd generation guns. Here's how to tell the difference:

 

[LVSteve]

As far as the contracts go, I believe the Dutch military had ordered a large number of P250s, but Sig couldn't deliver both quantity and quality so the contract was canceled.

It was the Dutch police, and the problem was that Sig couldn't get the P250 to run reliably with their special 94 gr ammo.

 

[rwsmith]

That's probably why.....

Its because the striker is under full tension. Technically it is a SA only striker fired gun but it is still classified as a DA striker.

That's probably why the trigger is so light.

 

[rwsmith]

Wiki

Where can I read about that?

I looked at one of those SP2022 deals some years ago, but I just couldn't go through with the deal at the time. I also became one of the "I'll never own a Sig" brigade.

There are two in the safe now.

Wikipedia has a lot of general info. I was dismayed when I heard they were rejected by the Dutch, USA and some others.

 

[rwsmith]

Range report......and THANKS!

Thank you guys for providing so much very useful info. My problem is that I didn't know Sigs except for a few model numbers and with new ones going from $700 to way up and used ones being not much less. I had no idea that there were 'budget' model Sigs. Now I know more thanks to you guys. I was just glad to find one that was affordable to me. If I look into them more I'll be more forearmed. Well, officially, now I know about 500 times more than I did about Sigs just by reading all of this.

Ok....Range report. In short, smooth as glass, trigger, slide. Take down is so easy and it goes back together without arguing. The trigger was amazing. I started out with all DAO guns for safety reasons (I wanted all my guns to work the same so anybody in my family would know how they work without hesitation) The trigger on my third gen S&W is very good. The Sig is EXCELLENT! As long as the ammo was 'decent', it was reliable as the day is long. I tried shooting some 'indecent' reloads that I've had problems with and some fired, some choked, but it wasn't the fault of the guns at all. (I bought some 147 grain cast SWCs that I had had great luck with. For some reason this batch is terrible. ) Again, not the fault of the Sig or any of my guns, but a mysterious component/reloading problem. I was able to clear up all jams more easily than with my other guns.

Sights - great, clear and easy to get the target picture and aim right on the dot.



Final tally - 10 in all categories. I love this gun.

At 10 yards fast and slow fire I tore the target up. Fast shooting spread out but not too bad.

At 15 yards slow fire I grouped around 10-11 O'clock about 3-4" out.

I practiced triple taps from a lowered gun at 5 yards. It was deadly, but I need to smooth out and not be so jerky. At this I tend to shoot a little to the right and down. My errors were vertical instead of wide so all of them would be effective SD shots.

All of the faults were with me and not the gun. I'm extremely happy with it. I like the ergonomics and so does my son. Just the right amount of heft and comfortable with all ammo.

 

[ColbyBruce]

rwsmith, which P250 did you get, the full size, compact, or sub compact?

 

[TAROMAN]

Picked up a new FS P250 for $388 w/military discount.
Love the DAO trigger. Perfect for high stress situations.
Added a Sig light/laser.
Just what the doctor ordered for things that go bump in the night.

 

[Frank46]

I caught the Sig bug when I got my CHL. First one was a P239 in 40S&W. Loved it and still have it. Qualified with it every time the renewel came up. Then I got one of the West German P6"s in 9mm. Started shooting with it and actually lost track of rounds shot through it. Qualified with that one also. Best time I had with it was at the local range. Some 20 somthings were banging away at pie plates at 10 yards. Said I could shoot if I wanted. Two 8 round mags with wwb at that distance you could have covered with a deck of cards. They were amazed at the accuracy of that old west german pistol. Told them if they see one at our local shows to grab it. I have about 8 extra mags that I got when AIM had them for sale.Frank

 

[rwsmith]

The compact....

rwsmith, which P250 did you get, the full size, compact, or sub compact?

It is the compact model, which I find to be 'just right'. It could easily be a carry gun but I got it mostly for range and HD. I haven't seen or tried it in sub compact, but I bet it would be great in that category and would feel a lot more substantial than my 13 oz. plastic Kel Tec P11. I also read the specs on the full size model. At 27 oz. it's a lot of honkin' gun. I have an S&W 5943, the alloy framed 3rd gen semi that feels great. My son has a what Taurus calls a 'medium' frame gun that weighs 27 oz and I'd consider it home and range only. I would NOT carry that around.

 

[rwsmith]

The box sez mine is 2005....

I have not handled or fired one, but a 250c has been on my radar for a possible future purchase for some time. I do like the modularity and the true DAO trigger. The biggest issue I have with them is the proprietary rear sight. Because of the way it's installed, the only replacement sights available are Sig's tritium and non-tritium sights. If those work for you, then no problem.

As far as the contracts go, I believe the Dutch military had ordered a large number of P250s, but Sig couldn't deliver both quantity and quality so the contract was canceled. I also believe ATF had a similar issue. Both canceled contracts involved the 1st generation guns. The issues have supposedly been fixed with the 2nd generation guns. Here's how to tell the difference:

So it's definitely one of the old ones. Now that I know that they are actually affordable on my meager budget I'll keep my eye out for newer models. You know, I've never seen many used Sigs around these parts. I think I see more Rugers, Smiths and Glocks than anything along with the Taurus and other 'inexpensives. The rest are Brownings, Berettas, H&Ks etc.

 

[ColbyBruce]

The compact parts will fit the sub compact grip modules ($40.00), then you will need a grip adapter sleeve ($13.00) or a sub compact magazine ($40.00); if you prefer to not have the accessory rails. It appears the non- rail sub compact modules are only offered in small widths.

 

[Geronimo Jim]

I bough the 250 based on John Connor's recommendation. He writes
for American Handgunner and I respect his opinion. High point is the
wonderful trigger. Super smooth just like a double action Smith. Matches well with other carry guns like a Kahr P9 and J frame
Smiths. A lot to be said for all carry guns feeling the same.

 

[rwsmith]

That's a really nice....

The compact parts will fit the sub compact grip modules ($40.00), then you will need a grip adapter sleeve ($13.00) or a sub compact magazine ($40.00); if you prefer to not have the accessory rails. It appears the non- rail sub compact modules are only offered in small widths.

That's a nice option to have. Same gun n a compact. Interesting.

 

[Brian in Oregon]

I love my little Sig P238 SAS. Amazing how well that little pistol shoots. Small, yet with enough heft for accurate shooting. Points naturally and has big boy sights. Just a nice, well made, reliable pistol in a small package. And, it's easy on the eyes to look at.

Thank you for looking.

God bless,
Birdgun

I've been looking for a small .380. Wanted a SIG P232, but they are not available due to the German government prohibiting SIG from exporting.

I wish SIG would make the P238 in DA/SA. It would be an ideal companion to their larger metal frame autos in that format.

 

[SquarePizza]

I wanted to like Sigs, I really did. I think the 226/220 series are lovely guns, and I even like the looks of the 320s. I like the way the guns feel in my hands, and I like the full length slide rails on my P6.

But I hate the triggers, now many of you told me the 250/320s are a lot better and I haven't had the chance to handle on yet. But the P series triggers suck for me. Too much slack and takeup.

I hated glocks my whole life, but over the last year, if it ain't a wheel gun in my hands, then its a glock. I love that I can tech the whole gun with a nail/punch.

My P6 looks like a bitch just to swap the hammer spring.

But by far my biggest beef with Sig is the lack of magazine compatibility. A double stack 9mm should fit another double stack of the same frame size. Take it out of you 226 and slam in it your 320, but sadly that doesn't happen. So if you want to have a couple Sigs, you are going to be buying a ton of incompatible mags. I love glock for that, and I wish more companies followed suit.