Barred from concealed EDC at home

I am in a similar situation with OP. I have a wife and two daughters therefore my weapons are locked up(kids). My wife has become anti carry for some odd reason and has been able to convince one daughter the same. My other daughter shoots with me all the time and has no issues with carrying. I live in a rural setting where police are 10-15 minutes too late and always am armed when outside. When inside I carry when I think she/they won't notice. I realize this isn't perfect, but I really can't justify a divorce over it.
 
I once read an article that said most encounters happen during the day outside your home. Even knowing that, I still for some reason prepare for the at night home invasions. I think it's just natural because the things we charrish the most are at home, family and belongings. I'll try to make this short. One day I was doing car work at home, needed to go to the local parts store for some parts. I didn't have my gun on because I was under the car on a creeper. I figured a quick trip to the parts store would be okay, after all I had my edc knife on me, and all fairly capable of handling myself. Once I arrived at the parts store there was a very heated argument going on inside that made the hairs stand up on my neck. The manager was doing a horrible job of deescolating the situation by ignoring the two guys that where yelling, all the more making them upset. I decided it was a good idea to remove myself from the situation and left. That's the only time I have ever left my home not armed. It was a lesson well learned. Bad things happen when your least expect them, because most of us never expect it. I'm a little on the, as wife says, perinoid side,I prefer to think of it as prepared. If you're legally licensed, carry everyday everywhere that allows. Just my two cents...
 
When I got my first LEO job, when off duty, the wife would ask, "Do you have to carry that pistol?" After many years, I wore her down. She became a target shooter and competed for a couple of years. For the past several years, she has had an unlimited "handgun license", but she seldom carries. I'm long ago retired. Now though, once in a while, when she feels uncomfortable, she says, "You have your gun on you, don't you?" Of course I do!
 
One day I was doing car work at home, needed to go to the local parts store for some parts. I didn't have my gun on because I was under the car on a creeper. I figured a quick trip to the parts store would be okay, after all I had my edc knife on me, and all fairly capable of handling myself. Once I arrived at the parts store there was a very heated argument going on inside that made the hairs stand up on my neck. The manager was doing a horrible job of deescolating the situation by ignoring the two guys that where yelling, all the more making them upset. I decided it was a good idea to remove myself from the situation and left. That's the only time I have ever left my home not armed. It was a lesson well learned. Bad things happen when your least expect them, because most of us never expect it. I'm a little on the, as wife says, perinoid side,I prefer to think of it as prepared. If you're legally licensed, carry everyday everywhere that allows. Just my two cents...

I came to the conclusion long ago that trying to estimate when, where or how a threat might occur was foolishness. Playing the "odds" of something happening, or having a false sense of security based on the neighborhood I live in is also foolishness.
The only question that matters is, If I find myself faced with a threat WILL I BE PREPARED TO DEAL WITH IT...OR NOT?

In response to THAT question I carry EVERYWHERE I am legally allowed, including at home, and yes, under a car on a creeper (which is an especially vulnerable place).
 
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I will assert if your spouse made that kind of statement to me that there are deeper underlying marital issues than simply carrying in the house.....I hate to say it that way but no one threatens to end a relationship out of the blue over a single issue......you might want to ask what is the underlying issue.......I am not a marriage counselor but that kind of reaction is extreme. Good luck.
 
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Some thoughts

Twenty plus years ago, when I was contemplating whether I should get a CCW, I went through quite a number of thought experiments to try to determine if it was the right decision for me. Not everyone should carry a gun. Some folks are just not emotionally suitable for that responsibility.

Among the thoughts that I had was recalling all of the vignettes at the front of the NRA magazines that I had read over the years. So many of them included a description of the homeowner fighting his way to where the gun was ("he retrieved his gun from the bedroom" was another perennial). This answered the question as to whether to carry in the home.

Another thought was how to decide when and where to carry the gun. After some thinking about this, it made sense to me that you can't predict when you will need to be armed, so if you are going to carry a gun you should carry it everywhere that it is legal to do so. This reinforced the decision to carry in the home because now I don't have to remember to arm myself when leaving the house - I just include that in my daily dress code.

As an afterthought, I have had to retrace my steps a couple of times when I realized that I was on my way to someplace where I could not legally carry a gun.
 
I live alone and do not carry in house. I have a gun in every room and basement. My neighborhood is fairly safe but gang members are not far away. If the gun ain't there when it's needed, You probably will wish it was.
 
Massad Ayoob, in one of his many books, said the following: (Paraphrasing) Many young LEO's don't feel the need to carry their firearm when inside their own home. However, Ayoob notes that after such an officer bears witness to the horrific aftermath of home invasion murders, he/she almost always changes their mind, and from then on, carries inside their own home.

To the OP: It sounds like your living companions have values that conflict with your own. This is nothing new. You need to decide whether your own safety goals are more or less important than the people in your domicile.
 
I don't carry at home. Not comfortable. But I have one laying near by. The front door is pretty far away.

Yes I may be playing the odds but I live in a safe neighborhood in a safe town in a safe township. We've had one murder in 30 years. Happened last year, two guys fighting over a girl. One drove to the other's house and shot him. Can it happen again? Sure! Odds are about the same as people quoting FBI statistics on shots fired and why 5 rounds is more than enough

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.... Until we get national reciprocity and I can get a Utah license, this is mostly moot anyway....
I don't understand the relationship between national reciprocity and a Utah license. Would appreciate an explanation from anyone who does.

Been thinking on this. Maybe dlombard means if there were national reciprocity, and he had a Utah non-resident permit, then California, his state of residence, would have to recognize his Utah permit, even if California continued to refuse to issue him a permit...
 
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Aloha,

As I have mentioned, we are a few months away from moving to Hill Country in Texas.

I have researched the crime stats of the counties we are interested in moving to.

Very low and only in the town/cities. None in the outskirts.

Doesn't mean it can't happen.

The Wife is a gun gal, she has guns and know how to use each one.

The discussion we had about living in the country on acreage large enough to have our own shooting range means we will be on our own for personal safety.

Wife wants Guns, Lots of them well hidden in the house. That made me rethink that the Smiths I bough for $300 years age are now worth a lot more. So now I'm going to get guns we won't miss if involved in a shooting and the police take them as evidence. Rossi, Taurus and Glock came to mind.

So, after moving, one thing we will be doing is scouring gun shows for "house" guns.

When out & about on the property, you can bet that we will have a handgun and long gun in the UTV. Also in the UTV will be at least one or more Cattle dogs(ours love to go riding).

BTW, the Wife wants a New Presentation Thompson with 50 round drum.
Sad that we can't afford a full auto Real Tommy gun.

She knows anything worth shooting once is worth shooting several more times.
 
I once read an article that said most encounters happen during the day outside your home. Even knowing that, I still for some reason prepare for the at night home invasions. I think it's just natural because the things we charrish the most are at home, family and belongings. I'll try to make this short. One day I was doing car work at home, needed to go to the local parts store for some parts. I didn't have my gun on because I was under the car on a creeper. I figured a quick trip to the parts store would be okay, after all I had my edc knife on me, and all fairly capable of handling myself. Once I arrived at the parts store there was a very heated argument going on inside that made the hairs stand up on my neck. The manager was doing a horrible job of deescolating the situation by ignoring the two guys that where yelling, all the more making them upset. I decided it was a good idea to remove myself from the situation and left. That's the only time I have ever left my home not armed. It was a lesson well learned. Bad things happen when your least expect them, because most of us never expect it. I'm a little on the, as wife says, perinoid side,I prefer to think of it as prepared. If you're legally licensed, carry everyday everywhere that allows. Just my two cents...
How do you suppose this might have ended differently if you had been carrying? Would having your gun meant that you might have attempted to assist in defusing that situation?
 
It wouldn't have ended differently, I still would have left the situation alone, no one was yelling at me. It was a situation where I would have felt better if I was armed just in case I was engaged into something I wanted no part of. My best weapon is my brain not my gun. My gun just gives me a personal feeling of comfort when I'm out in the world for some odd reason. Maybe I've just become use to having it on me. Funny thing is when I was first issued didn't carry for the first 6 months. After I started I became use to it like putting on my shoes. I'm not completely dressed until I have my sidearm, knife, flashlight. I'm not John Rambo just a normal guy living in a really screwed up world. I highly suggest to anyone that has a license to carry to make sure you know what you're getting into if you ever have to use your sidearm. The way laws are now days you better be able to prove that your life was very much in danger before you pull that handle. Just my useless 2 cents, hope it answered your question.
 
I really wanted to have fun with that question, but figured seems how know one knows who I am I better not. But wouldn't that have been a riot if I would have broke into the crazy guy with a gun routine. As in, I would have pulled my gun and said freeze like Barney, OMG that would have been a riot. Then proceeded into some crazy story where I pulled out my Amazon handcuffs and cuffed then both, maybe shooting off a round for story purposes.... Maybe next time....
 
How do you suppose this might have ended differently if you had been carrying?

No one knows what fate has to offer.

I've read stories here from guys who usually carry but for one reason or another didn't on a particular day when something happened that would have warranted use of lethal force. Afterwards, no one was injured and the perpetrator caught. Couldn't have ended any better.

Carrying a gun doesn't guarantee a better outcome, it just guarantees an available option that I believe most folks wish to never be required of them.
 
If a person (who doesn't have an irrational fear of guns, and isn't a control freak) doesn't want their spouse/ partner carrying in the house, then they must not have confidence in the other person's:
1. Skill with firearms.
2. Safe handling of firearms.
3. Emotional stability.
4. Judgement.

These are serious concerns/ issues. I'd have to ask myself why I want to live with such a person.
 
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