winter EDC

Listen, this is Western NY here. The way we dress in the winter we can conceal an AR with 30 rd mag. We don’t need no stinking reloads.

Problem isn’t concealing anything. Problem is concealing it where you can still Quickly access it and bring it to action. Under a typical heavy winter coat you can conceal a Desert Eagle,thing is it takes 5 minutes to get too it. Frankly if it can’t be accessed instantly it’s not going to do much good. A little J works well in the pocket ( in a holster) of that winter coat. With a jacket, front pocket strong side works well. I carry the exact same firearms year around.
 
I only carry one of a couple of guns during all seasons here in Colorado. I do however change out what I am carrying sometimes while out camping or walking on the Grand Mesa. sometimes it's a .357 or a .44sp. or Magnum instead of a .9mm that I usually carry. I do have a 649 and a 432UC that go in my pocket at times when out for a short walk or quick trip to town. In todays environment, I feel like I should have more rounds on tap than a snubby provides most to the time.
 
I am in the "boring club" that carries the same gun 365 days a year. I see no real reason to "rotate" guns. IMHO that can lead to confusion, unfamiliarity and delays in deploying a firearm in a stressful and important time of need.

I personally carry an original size Sig P365. It weighs 17.6 ounces not loaded and about 21 ounces loaded with 11 rounds of 124 grain 9mm HP's. It is also small enough to easily pocket carry, has excellent sights, is extremely accurate, reliable and is capable of handling the very successful 9mm +P ammo. It is fast to reload and I now carry it about 50% of the time in my pocket with a DeSantis Nemesis holster and 50% of the time in a Kramer Horsehide OWB holster.

I am quite familiar with it, I always know what I am carrying, exactly how it operates, how many rounds it holds, where it shoots and exactly what to expect. What sense would it make to me to mix that up with rotating CCW firearms?? Because of it's light weight and small size, it can be carried during any weather conditions and to me, along with similar guns like the Hellcat, FN Reflex, etc. it never requires rotations and shoots the very competent and effective 9mm.

If one wants to strap on a new gun of the week, I would suggest doing that at the Range but see no practical reason to do it "for real" when CCW. Rotating carry guns may feel kind of cool, but may cause you a major issue if and when you ever need to use it. Call me boring!

Ah yes, the old saying " Beware of the man with 1 gun, because he probably knows how to use it."

When I used to shoot trap, there were guys that would have a new gun a week, or fiddle with chokes or adjust the stock constantly. Basically shooting a new gun every time they went to the line. They were never competition to worry about in a tournament.
 
Problem isn’t concealing anything. Problem is concealing it where you can still Quickly access it and bring it to action. Under a typical heavy winter coat you can conceal a Desert Eagle,thing is it takes 5 minutes to get too it. Frankly if it can’t be accessed instantly it’s not going to do much good. A little J works well in the pocket ( in a holster) of that winter coat. With a jacket, front pocket strong side works well. I carry the exact same firearms year around.

The problem with pocket carry is security.

For example I can’t count the number of times my cell phone has fallen out of a pocket.

I have conceal carried for 38 years and have never had a handgun fall out of a holster.

Now if you are not very active, don’t run, jump, roll around on the ground, etc, pocket carry might work fine.

For me, not so much.

In the winter I will move the gun outward so to speak so I am only living on garment to draw. Again, it’s NC, with mild winters so that usually means a vest or a short coat or jacket. IWB or OWB under the vest, jacket or coat, works fine.

Back home in SD with a long parka, a different approach was required.
 
The problem with pocket carry is security. For example I can’t count the number of times my cell phone has fallen out of a pocket.
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I think that can depend with platform and holster. Cell phones are thinner than pretty much any handgun, so there is more room to flop about and come out of a pocket.
As a rule, my pocket pistol is a Glock 33 in a Kramer pocket holster. The pistol takes a lot more room in the pocket (whether the dress clothes I almost never wear any longer, or the cargo pants, usually Duluth) and the holster is made with a shape that catches on the pocket. That means that the holster is less likely to fall out and is also more likely to stay in when one draws.
 
Winter or summer I wear pants. With pockets. In one of which a 642 in a Galco horsehide holster resides. On the rare occasions when the 642 is being cleaned or otherwise maintained its understudy, a Model 38, rides in the same place. When weather dictates a jacket or coat a speed loader is added to the speed strip I carry year round.

On the job I carried a revolver in an open holster in fair weather and foul. Daily wipe down, regular cleaning and graphite lubrication and regular ammo rotation kept everything working. I never had a problem switching from a S&W primary to a Colt BUG despite the differences in cylinder latches and rotation. I practiced with both.

As to.security I have never had a gun even come close to escaping from my pocket holster, although I have lost one each from a duty holster with a thumb break and an IWB without. Granted, I'm a couple of years short of 50 years of concealed carry, but I'm pretty comfortable with (and comforted by) my choices.
 
My EDC stays the same, I just add one when I am going to be doing outside activites in winter time. Snow removal usually finds a .44 spl in the coat pocket.
 
It's down to 76° down here in Central Florida. I've already switched to my Winter EDC. We are expecting snow flurries this afternoon...
 
While I keep toying with the idea of a P365, my 640-1 Pro currently hits the sweet spot for year around EDC.

Other J's and K's and my Kimber Ultra Carry (Series I) are relegated to range or safe duty only at present.
 
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It's down to 76° down here in Central Florida. I've already switched to my Winter EDC. We are expecting snow flurries this afternoon...

I was living in Hudson Florida(West Coast just North of New Port Richey) in in January of '86. I was working as Block Mason apprentice.

I remember watching the Challenger Disaster from my front porch. The day it happened I very distinctly remember that they sent home the entire crew because it was below freezing and the water that we were mixing the mud with kept freezing up on us.

From everything I've heard online it doesn't get that cold in Florida anymore. I'm really wondering if global warming is not a real thing?
 
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I don't really have a "Carry Rotation". I carry a Glock because I can switch between the 19 and the 26 based on my concealment needs without having to switch out magazines. I actually prefer the M&P9 to the Glock but there's really not an M&P comparable to the Glock 26.

When we move to The Goat Ranch I'll be giving up my Gym membership (I'm not driving 70 miles to the nearest Planet Fatness). I'm seriously considering going back to the M&P.
 
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Central WV, the weather changes with the calendar date. 60's two weeks ago for the week, then below freezing for six days, now two days of 50's, and rain and snow tonight. My carry goes from a 637 in an IWB Kydex, to a 365XL in a Uncle Mike's pocket holster, inside the outside front zipper pocket on a couple of winter coats. I would carry the 637 year around, but I can't shoot it with gloves on. I can shoot the 365 with gloves on.
 
Outside jacket pocket carry is great for cold weather but the ones of you who front pocket pants carry either all the time or in summer with shorts etc. need to also consider drawing while seated in a restaurant or vehicle. Pants carry is fine while standing or walking around but not so good while seated. I realize that cargo shorts, thigh pockets are probably the exception.
 
Here on the farm, I generally carry on my right hip. It doesn't get that cold here so a waist length coat works fine.

This changes if I have to head to the city. Pocket carry has literally carried the day for me on two occasions and I am pretty reluctant to give up its advantages. I sometimes switch holsters if I am going to be doing a lot of seating or driving.

For me, pocket carry works best with a Centennial or Body Guard J frame. I recently acquired a Shield Plus. It's about the same size as the J frame with the 10 round magazine and is much easier to shoot well. I am very impressed with this pistol. The only problem is pocket carry is not as smooth because of the great sights and the back of the slide getting stuck on pocket.
 
the ones of you who front pocket pants carry either all the time or in summer with shorts etc. need to also consider drawing while seated in a restaurant or vehicle. Pants carry is fine while standing or walking around but not so good while seated.

I have not only considered but have practiced - and have had to - draw from a seated position behind a steering wheel. The only methods I have found that were as fast/smooth from a seated position as standing were shoulder and ankle. Proper ankle carry is faster/smoother from a seated position. Strong side IWB/OWB requires working around the seatbelt. Crossdraw may or may not. All require clearing the cover garment. A six inch revolver in a high ride holster on a Sam Brown sitting behind the wheel clears the seat enough to be comfortable, but drawing it is awkward unless you are a double jointed orangutan. I'm not and once was enough.
 
I was living in Hudson Florida(West Coast just North of New Port Richey) in in January of '86. I was working as Block Mason apprentice.

I remember watching the Challenger Disaster from my front porch. The day it happened I very distinctly remember that they sent home the entire crew because it was below freezing and the water that we were mixing the mud with kept freezing up on us.

From everything I've heard online it doesn't get that cold in Florida anymore. I'm really wondering if global warming is not a real thing?

Global warming is a very real thing, but so is global cooling. Both events have been occurring since the planet was created.
 
I was living in Hudson Florida(West Coast just North of New Port Richey) in in January of '86. I was working as Block Mason apprentice.

I remember watching the Challenger Disaster from my front porch. The day it happened I very distinctly remember that they sent home the entire crew because it was below freezing and the water that we were mixing the mud with kept freezing up on us.

From everything I've heard online it doesn't get that cold in Florida anymore. I'm really wondering if global warming is not a real thing?

You've got me curious. I have lived in Lakeland since 1969, and I remember stopping at work at the phosphate mine (South of Lakeland) to watch the shuttle launch. It wasn't long before we knew something didn't look right. We had seen enough launches to be able to tell :-(

That winter was unusually cold (see below); so, there is a slight upward (warm) trend, but IMHO, nothing drastic. It's pretty much the same I remember for the past 52 years.
 

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