Useless features in modern cars

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Call me a Luddite curmudgeon if you like, but here is my list of stuff you find in cars that I think we can live without.

1) Touch screens. Really? Yes Honda, I'm looking at you.

"Want something MORE distracting and hard to use than a cellphone when driving, then try the latest from ACT, (Accident Causing Technologies) the touch screen! Need to adjust the radio volume? Simple! Just take your eyes off the road for 20 seconds while you locate the virtual slider buried two menus down and wait for the software to eventually respond to your request, maybe. Yes, you may rear-end another car stopped at a light, but you will do so with the music at just the right volume*.

* Volume level not guaranteed to suddenly go to death metal levels causing even more distraction."

Of course, this applies to any function that requires using the touch screen. A/C fan controls only on the touch screen are a deal breaker for me.

2) Non-defeatable radar cruise control. Sorry, it's just unsuitable for the way Americans drive on freeways. Most of these systems have a minimum following distance of about 3.5 car lengths, or "WAY TOO CLOSE" as we called it in Europe. However, in America such a gap is liable to trigger Asphalt Agoraphobia (the morbid dread of more than 12 feet of empty road surface) in most surrounding drivers. As a result your radar cruise control is constantly backing off and reestablishing speed, killing the whole point of cruise control, smooth progress.

3) The "three-blink" flick turn signal feature for lane changes. What self-absorbed arrogant idiot thought of this one? First, it assumes that I'm looking at your car pretty much all the time. I can miss your three blinks doing a mirror scan or an over the shoulder check. Second, if you read the driving requirements for most states you are required to signal before and throughout a maneuver. Make too many lane changes on the three blink schedule and the kids in the back will be barfing.

4) Panoramic sunroofs. Is your vehicle a tour bus in a historic town or national park, or a mobile air traffic control tower? No, neither is mine, so what's the deal with seeing straight up? As a half-qualified engineer I cannot fathom putting so much glass that high in a vehicle. It weighs far more than steel, so you compromise the center of gravity of the vehicle and its handling. In a wreck steels bends, but glass tends to shatter and create shrapnel, no matter how well it is tempered and coated. Then there is the cohort of the panoramic sunroof, the "solar shade". These are as much use as a chocolate fireguard in the desert SW. Too much light and heat gets in.

5) Engine sounds piped into the cabin. Say what? This is done either with some funky plastic pipe and diaphragm (Ford symposer) or directly through the stereo (BMW and others). WHY!?!?!? Oh, and why do BMW (and I suspect others) make it such that you cannot turn it off? :mad: I spend a large wedge on a refined car then some brain donor in the design staff says "it's not loud enough!" Probably the illegitimate child of Lemmy.

I'm sure I can think of a few more, given time. ;):D
 
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Call me a Luddite curmudgeon ...
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Me too. I never got over the deletion of wing vents on the front windows.


Power mirrors, power seats, power windows, ... just more stuff to go wrong. I dream some day of finding a pristine '60s two door Chevy with a 283 for somewhere around $10,000. (When I can afford another car, that is!)
 
Really miss simple HVAC and radio controls. They did the job and could be operated quickly. Sunroofs made sense decades ago when AC was not fairly universal. Wonder what my Accord would have cost without the sunroof. I turned off lane control about two days after taking delivery. Can't do anything about the collision warning.

What's next?
 
Call me a Luddite curmudgeon if you like, but here is my list of stuff you find in cars that I think we can live without.

1) Touch screens. Really? Yes Honda, I'm looking at you.

"Want something MORE distracting and hard to use than a cellphone than driving, then try the latest from ACT, (Accident Causing Technologies) the touch screen! Need to adjust the radio volume? Simple! Just take your eyes off the road for 20 seconds while you locate the virtual slider buried two menus down and wait for the software to eventually respond to your request, maybe. Yes, you may rear-end another car stopped at a light, but you will do so with the music at just the right volume*.

* Volume level not guaranteed to suddenly go to death metal levels causing even more distraction."

Of course, this applies to any function that requires using the touch screen. A/C fan controls only on the touch screen are a deal breaker for me.

2) Non-defeatable radar cruise control. Sorry, it's just unsuitable for the way Americans drive on freeways. Most of these systems have a minimum following distance of about 3.5 car lengths, or "WAY TOO CLOSE" as we called it in Europe. However, in America such a gap is liable to trigger Asphalt Agoraphobia (the morbid dread of more than 12 feet of empty road surface) in most surrounding drivers. As a result you radar cruise control is constantly backing off and reestablishing speed, killing the whole point of cruise control, smooth progress.

3) The "three-blink" flick turn signal feature for lane changes. What self-absorbed arrogant idiot thought of this one? First, it assumes that I'm looking at your car pretty much all the time. I can miss your three blinks doing a mirror scan or an over the shoulder check. Second, if you read the driving requirements for most states you are required to signal before and throughout a maneuver. Make too many lane changes on the three blink schedule and the kids in the back will be barfing.

4) Panoramic sunroofs. Is your vehicle a tour bus in a historic town or national park, or a mobile air traffic control tower? No, neither is mine, so what's the deal with seeing straight up? As a half-qualified engineer I cannot fathom putting so much glass that high in a vehicle. It weighs far more than steel, so you compromise the center of gravity of the vehicle and its handling. In a wreck steels bends, but glass tends to shatter and create shrapnel, no matter how well it is tempered and coated. Then there is the cohort of the panoramic sunroof, the "solar shade". These are as much use as a chocolate fireguard in the desert SW. Too much light and heat gets in.

I'm sure I can think of a few more, given time. ;):D

Tell us how you REALLY feel tomorrow... :D


With you all the way, although so far I've been spared the touch screen - all my Fiat's volume controls and track controls are on the back of the wheel.
 
Pretty soon another "useless" feature will be a driver. :) Being a mechanic for the last 45 years (and counting..) I've seen a lot of stuff added to cars and trucks that does nothing but complicates something simple. People demand it..so we get it. Me..I don't get it. Give me cables that open and close things..knobs on my "radio", a simple set of analog gauges,and a $2 key! Door handles made of metal..windshield wipers you can take off without reading a manual..and gas caps! The number one thing turning on engine lights on the newer cars/trucks is that capless fuel filler. Glad I'll be retiring soon...
 
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Me too. I never got over the deletion of wing vents on the front windows.


Power mirrors, power seats, power windows, ... just more stuff to go wrong. I dream some day of finding a pristine '60s two door Chevy with a 283 for somewhere around $10,000. (When I can afford another car, that is!)
Power seats. Set them once and done. All the rest? Never had one break. Over the years they seem to have proven themselves. Next it will be the TV remote control. Can break! Better get up and change the channel

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While there are some rather unintuitive and annoying stuff, I just drive the car. Turn key, put in drive and go. Don't care too much what the roof is or how the cruise works or why there's a computer mouse attached to my center console

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I have a 2003 Tacoma with power steering, brakes, AC, and 4WD. Everything include the transmission is manually operated. The one luxury is a CD player, whatever those are.


Gets 22MPG average, has 150HP 2.7L 4 banger in a 3000lb truck, goes point A to B even over steep terrain, and never breaks
 
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I recently bought a 2016 Yukon SLT (loaded) and it has all the bells and whistles - some of which I did not even know were included until I took delivery of the vehicle. To my surprise I love most of them such as these:

Lane Keep - will vibrate seat on side you are drifting to and actually steer SUV back into lane. Not an excuse to daydream but at one time or another we are all guilty of that.

Accident Avoidance and Auto Braking has saved me from two fender benders so far in 9 months. Neither was my fault, however I emerged unscathed both times.

Auto Folding Mirrors are really nice when in parking lots with tight parking spots.

The 3 blink lane changing turn signals are also a nice feature in my opinion. Not a necessity, but I do like them.

The Auto Sensing wipers are also really perfect for intermittent rain. I had a caddy years ago and back then they were an annoyance - now they really work well. I could definitely live without them, but since I didn't order them and they are included - I'll use 'em.

While I always thought of it as a "female accessory", the auto opening and closing rear hatch opens when you wave your leg under it has become quite welcome when approaching the SUV with a handful of stuff in your arms.

The A/C & heated seats & heated steering wheel are another thing we could do without but I kind of like them :) The electrically operated 2nd and 3rd row of seats are also new to me and a bit eccentric, but again that's the way the vehicle comes and are nice when traveling with 5 or 6 people.

The one option I could do without is the TV/DVD player mounted on the ceiling for the rear passengers. I have never used it except to test it. I have not used the live Wifi feature yet either.

I do like my sunroof on those crisp cool Fall days or the once in a blue moon I fire up a cigar in the car - which I do admit is rare. However with the sunroof opened, the car smells 100% not smoked in when I get to my destination.

I do like my creature comforts and maybe I am getting soft - but while we did without many of these features including GPS for many many years they make driving more pleasurable, a long trip go bye faster and easier. many of the features I mentioned above (actually most) were just part of the SLT trim level and the one or two extra ones I didn't know about are a welcome surprise.

I've always owned well equipped vehicles and have found that these "fancy features" if you will, are more reliable than most would think. With the exception of a broken element in the drivers heated seat of my Escalade (which was a reasonable price to repair), I've never had any of them fail in any car I've ever had over the last 20 years. Since I do keep vehicles for about 10 years and do travel far a few times a year I do like most of these "wuss" features. Of course you are correct and they do add to the price of the vehicle, but not different than any other kind of consumer product.

Items such as the retractible running boards & heads up windshield displays are what I'd consider over the top and unnecessary. I went out of my way to find a vehicle in the color I wanted that did NOT have those two items. What I do really object to is that many of the added features only come as a "package" and to get one desired item you have to go for big bucks! I'm sure the Auto company's burned the midnight oil figuring out what to package with what to max out the sale.
 
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I have a Subaru Forester with all the bells and whistles. Love it and have no problem running any electronic gizmo. For example I can control my radio the old fashion way (buttons for on/off, volume, etc), on the radio face and/or on the steering wheel. Dual control A/C is a must. When on the road my cruise control maintains one of three distances from the car/truck ahead and will stop the car if I forget to (assuming the speed between the vehicles is under 17mph difference).

Love the moon roof and all seven air bags. Tows my trailer just fine and always has four wheel drive.

What's not to like. But when I feel the need to return to the 60's I always have my Mustang.



 
Power seats. Set them once and done. All the rest? Never had one break. Over the years they seem to have proven themselves. Next it will be the TV remote control. Can break! Better get up and change the channel

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Why bother with the motor, wires, controls, etc. if you only use them once.../

Maketh little sense to me. :)
 
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The one option I could do without is the TV/DVD player mounted on the ceiling for the rear passengers. I have never used it except to test it. I have not used the live Wifi feature yet either.

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I have been known to put my lights on high if I'm behind someone using those... My eyes are drawn to the moving crud on the screen, and not the road. If they're gong to annoy me, I'll annoy them.

If I CAN pass, I will, just so I'm not being a total (insert bad word here) but if I can't, they get the light treatment...

Yes, I know they have NO idea what is upsetting me, but I always hope they'll pull over and let me pass.
 
My summer car is a 15 Corvette, man that thing is way overloaded with stuff I realy do not want. You got to be a graduate of RPI, MIT to appreciate some of that high priced junk. With many new vechicles you got to search around to find common things that you want to adjust, think your good to go. Shut off the vehicle and many of these things DEFAULT back to what was there before you set it for what you want.

Lane departure, that sucker will drive you crazy up here. When no traffic is around, due to deer and very curvy roads you want to be in the middle of road where safe, and of course it makes all sorts of noise when you move out or in too far.

Cruise control that the car thinks you get too close will slow you down. Going down a hill you get going fast than that the car thinks it slows you down even to the point of dropping transmission speeds. Then you get to the bottom and start back up and the car accelerates hard wasting gas, where a good driver will nor have those problems if there the one that realy is driving.

I have a lot more complaints about these new modern very expensive junk they put on today's vechicles, but I yield the floor now but reserve the right to come back to this thread tomorrow.:mad:
 
I guess I am driving most everyone's dream car. This picture is from not to long after I got her 7 years ago. A few dents and a lot more rust. But the air works, cruise works and the power windows are slow but work. Radio has crapped out but have others to replace it. I wish the cruise had resume.
 

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Why bother with the motor, wires, controls, etc. if you only use them once.../

Maketh little sense to me. :)

I can explain that.

The US motor industry uses ratchet backrest adjustment on cars with manual seats. You pull the lever and lean back to where you want the seat and then drop the lever...which promptly locks you into a position slightly too inclined or slightly too upright from where you want to be. I know, I've owned a couple of vehicles in the US without power seats, and they suck.

In Europe they use a manually powered wheel and gear system that is stepless, just like on power seats. Unfortunately these are either too expensive for US product planners or the average US consumer is unwilling to wind the wheel to get the adjustment right. I have noticed the motoring media in the US foam at the mouth when presented with a Euro manual seat adjustment.

So, that's why the US loves power seats and only uses them once.
 
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