TTSH's 3rd Gen Question Du Jour

For those still hunting one, there is a pre rail 4513TSW up for sale on the Guns International auction board. Looks to be in good shape, 1 mag, $499.

There also is a 4553TSW listed in the classifieds here. Hope this helps!

Thanks for the heads-up. Trying to restrict myself to local sales only is the best way I can try to keep things in-check. Otherwise I'd need to buy another safe. :p

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I'd still probably go for a decent 4506-1, with the intention of using it for 45 Super. I would also pick up another 4566TSW for this conversion, if the price was right.

Wouldn't mind a 3913NL either, though I certainly have enough 39xx guns in the collection. A NIB 3953TSW for conversion to TDA would be nice (though they seem to have dried up). I have also toyed with the idea of getting a 4516-1 or -2 and finding a 4566 slide to put on top...


On the other hand, we'd be in a race-to-the-death to get to that pre-rail 4513TSW. :D That is probably the only remaining 3rd Gen over $500 that I would race to buy even without the good wife's pre-approval. :eek: :eek: :eek:

While I haven't priced them lately, a few years back most 4513TSW pre-rails I saw online were going for right around $500, maybe closer to $525. I got mine for just under $500, though it has some fairly significant surface wear in spots.
 
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I'd still probably go for a decent 4506-1, with the intention of using it for 45 Super. I would also pick up another 4566TSW for this conversion, if the price was right.

LOL, that's why I bought my 4586 ...pending a nice 4566.

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Ugly ?

... I know it's probably the ugly weird step-child to most of you but I've got a strong hank'rin for a 4040PD. Most of what I buy is LNIB or there about's so condition is paramount to price. If you got one I'm listening!!!
Thanks,
T & B

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I love my 4040PD and think it's a beautiful example of 3G guns. The Scandium frame earns it the AirLite title.

The angled dust cover like the 39xx LS & NL gives it a touch of class.

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My exact thought. I have to wonder if S&W pushed .40S&W so hard because it was their "baby"?

It seems to have been a long lasting fad, which only now is subsiding. Some departments are moving to either .45 or 9mm and dropping .40.

Besides when was the last time any gun forum had a good 45 vs 40 or 49 vs 9 debate? :D

That aside, the 4040PD is a beautiful gun. If only it were available in either .45 or 9mm.

Maybe that's the dream 4th Gen gun that Smith should make.


LOL if it just didn't have the "Billboard" and wasn't a .40...... it would be on my short list!!!!!!

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I love my 4040PD and think it's a beautiful example of 3G guns. The Scandium frame earns it the AirLite title. The angled dust cover like the 39xx LS & NL gives it a touch of class.
LOL if it just didn't have the "Billboard" and wasn't a .40...... it would be on my short list!!!!!! :D
My exact thought. I have to wonder if S&W pushed .40S&W so hard because it was their "baby"?

It seems to have been a long lasting fad, which only now is subsiding. Some departments are moving to either .45 or 9mm and dropping .40.

Besides when was the last time any gun forum had a good 45 vs 40 or 49 vs 9 debate? :D

That aside, the 4040PD is a beautiful gun. If only it were available in either .45 or 9mm.

Maybe that's the dream 4th Gen gun that Smith should make.
Nothing wrong with the Model 4040PD in my book. :) My only regret is that I didn't snag one for cheap when I had an opportunity to do so. :o But at the time, I was all about "bright-finished" 3rd Gens and had zero interest in the black ones. By the time I wised up, that 4040PD was long gone. :rolleyes:
 
Nothing wrong with the Model 4040PD in my book. :) My only regret is that I didn't snag one for cheap when I had an opportunity to do so. :o But at the time, I was all about "bright-finished" 3rd Gens and had zero interest in the black ones. By the time I wised up, that 4040PD was long gone. :rolleyes:

Seem to recall seeing one when they first came out...... and getting all excited until I saw the billboard..... which I might have lived with ...... but then saw it was a .40.

For me kind of up there with the 7shot .357 mountain gun........

My only .40 is a used Sig 229 that came with both a .40 and .357 Sig barrels.
My just in case there's no 9mm or .45 or .38 or .357 or .380 or .32 or....... on the store shelves .... gun. :D
 
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Seem to recall seeing one when they first came out...... and getting all excited until I saw the billboard..... which I might have lived with ...... but then saw it was a .40.
Well, the one I found was long before the good wife imposed/requested that I stop buying .40's (don't worry - I've got plenty!)... and the billboard silliness didn't enter into my decision at all. :) It really was all about the gun's black finish. :o

Now I know that it was a big mistake to walk away from one of my best potential deals ever... but such is life. Wasn't the first time I blew it and won't be the last. ;)
 
For such an uncommon & desirable 3rd Gen that's still brand-new-in-box, I haven't a clue. :confused: But if you do ever decide to sell it, be sure that I know about it! :D Whether I can afford it or not, I'd at least want an opportunity to be in on the bidding. :)

It is extremely unlikely that I would ever sell that 5903 SSV to anyone NOT on this Forum. That would be churlish and unfair as far as I am concerned. I have found all of my grail guns but one on this Forum so the least I can do is reciprocate when the time comes.

One Forum member, in a discussion some time ago, offered me $1,000 but, as noted, I am still not prepared to part with it.

For fun I will post the pictures of my other 3rd Gens. I only have these three besides the SSV - these three get shot and carried. The only reason I am not carrying a K frame snubbie as often as I used to is because I acquired the CS-9 for EDC and the 6906 for social situations where I think high capacity is useful. I used to carry the CS-45 at such times, actually.
 

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It is extremely unlikely that I would ever sell that 5903 SSV to anyone NOT on this Forum. That would be churlish and unfair as far as I am concerned. I have found all of my grail guns but one on this Forum so the least I can do is reciprocate when the time comes.

One Forum member, in a discussion some time ago, offered me $1,000 but, as noted, I am still not prepared to part with it.
If only I had not been in my 25-year deep sleep during the glory days of 3rd Gen production. :o That could have been me with one or more fine, unfired, brand-new-in-box specimens to enjoy. :D
 
Hey Everyone
So here's my "gotta get" list, it's short as I have a bunch already. I know it's probably the ugly weird step-child to most of you but I've got a strong hank'rin for a 4040PD. Most of what I buy is LNIB or there about's so condition is paramount to price. If you got one I'm listening!!!
Thanks,
T & B



I know of a pawn shop right now locally that has a 4040pd for $700.


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PC 5906. I have 12 3rd gens, from the 5906 I bought new in 1989... to my second 4563 CQB i picked up a couple of months ago. I bought both CQB's while looking for a 4" 5906 PC. It has been my grail gun for a very long time. But every time I run across a reasonably priced 3rd Gen with "that bushing" I find it hard to resist.
 
My 4040PD is a favorite and it's the only "billboarded" Smith that I care for. The "Tactical" and others are too flashy and are overdone in my opinion.

While the .40 seems to be much maligned now a days I still prefer it to a 9mm in a defensive situation. Bigger and faster is better in my opinion so the .40 accomplishes that.

I'm not very recoil sensitive so I'll accept the bigger bark and bite of the .40 in a carry gun. In fact I consider the 10mm as the optimum caliber to carry if the SHF.

I just wish my 547 was chambered in 10mm, more bang for the buck.

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While the .40 seems to be much maligned now a days, I still prefer it to a 9mm in a defensive situation. Bigger and faster is better in my opinion so the .40 accomplishes that.
No argument here. While I only carry super-lightweight, super-compact 9mm's and .380's these days, I have long said that if I ever knew for certain that I was headed into trouble, I'd wish I had my CS40 with me... or any other compact .40 (or .45) for that matter. :o But one sometimes makes compromises for convenience, practicality and/or comfort. :o

But collection-wise, the good wife requested and I have agreed: No more .40's for the foreseeable future. It's an investment thing... goes along with no more cheap plastic wonders either. :cool:
 
Never have and never will own or carry a plastic gun. Any gun I carry will be all metal and that includes the bits and pieces that are "featured" on the value line Smiths.
It's funny. I couldn't sleep last night due to an unfortunate combination of many factors... so I laid in bed for a while thinking, among other things, about how few handgun manufacturers are left who aren't betting the farm on cheap plastic. Very depressing, really, when you actually pause and think about it. Outside of the 1911 specialist folks, it's practically nil. :o

Poor old TTSH is very old and getting older every day. His "day" has clearly come and gone. My time left is short. It's a rapidly changing world and here I am collecting old, used things because the new things mostly suck... well, at least in my mind they do. :(

While there are still a few semi-affordable 3rd Gens models still out there for me to collect, where I go after that is not clear to me. I've got a few Sigs, Berettas and CZ's but I'm not going to try to make any of those brands my main priority. Hi-Powers are still way too expensive for an old man living on Social Security. So where to turn for the three remaining "good years" I've got left? :confused:

Maybe to "bird watching" like my good wife wants me to do? :rolleyes:
 
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