How Many Will YOU Buy!!??

[BigBill]

Buy? None, positively none. The ones in the click get the best ones.

 

[Richard Simmons]

It wasn’t a mistype. Blue Sky Importe is in the business to make money. The CMP is not (supposedly). Should an all original Garand be the same price as a service grade? Course not. But $1000 for an entry grade 1911? Give me a break. I still tell people the CMP is the place to go if they want a Garand, but it is clear as day that they are going to fleece the public on the 1911’s.

How exactly do you "fleece" someone who's buying a gun they don't need? No ones holding a gun to their head.

 

[sigp220.45]

This thread kind of reminds me of when Wal Mart was trying to open in Twin Falls. People howled and ranted and fought it. Of course Wal Mart prevailed. I happen to like Wal Mart, so I went there on opening weekend, sure I would have the place to myself. I couldn’t even get into the parking lot. I suspect these 1911s will go the same way.

If CMP priced these things for a buck they would all be at the gun show a week later for $1000. Limits just don’t work - greedy folks will find a way. The “I promise not to resell it” pledge is laughable. I’d rather have CMP get my dough than some flipper.

The price hasn’t been set, but I think $1,000 is about right. If you want to spend less, buy a Rock Island. If you want an actual USGI gun, pony up.

CMP hasn’t let me down in the past and I don’t think they will if this comes to pass.

 

[Frank46]

When the CMP was selling the H&R model 12 22rf U.S. Marked target rifles @ $300 plus shipping I bought one. These came complete with a Redfield Palma rear sight and a Redfield Big Bore globe front sight plus a bag full of inserts. Few months later one dealer at our local gun shows had two of them for $700 each. One guy was asking if he'd come down on the price. The dealer told him he'd paid $600 each. Couldn't help it but I started laughing. Dealer gives me the evil eye like I know he is lying. I tell the prospective buyer you could do way better. Find me walking around and I'll tell you where to go and what you have to do. We hook up and I tell him they only cost $300 plus shipping. Wrote down the info regarding the CMP and he'd have to take it from there. I really dislike dealers who think some folks don't know their prices and take advantage of the unknowing. Anyway that comment regarding not buying anymore 1911A1's after 1943 had me laughing. And not meaning any disrespect. We had an occasion to call the Coast Guard and one of the sailors on the response boat had a rather well worn 1911A1 in a belt holster. I asked him how old he was. Told me 23. I told him your pistol was probably one of the ones last made in 1943. Cause that is when Uncle Sam stopped buying them. So in all likely hood your 45 is probably twice as old as you. I told him my Ithaca 1911A1 was made in 1943. He looked kinda suprised
and didn't think it was that old. I said get on a computer and do a little research with maker and serial number is all you have to do. Mine came from a WWII vet who carried it during his service. Muzzle is a bit dinged up from climbing out of tanks, finish is a bit worn around the front of the slide and wouldn't take no amount of money for it. Barrel is in fine shape. Frank

 

[ladder13]

Since I don’t waste money on alcohol and tobacco products I’ll be getting at least one of those rattletrap 1911’s.

 

[RoninPhx]

When the CMP was selling the H&R model 12 22rf U.S. Marked target rifles @ $300 plus shipping I bought one. These came complete with a Redfield Palma rear sight and a Redfield Big Bore globe front sight plus a bag full of inserts. Few months later one dealer at our local gun shows had two of them for $700 each. One guy was asking if he'd come down on the price. The dealer told him he'd paid $600 each. Couldn't help it but I started laughing. Dealer gives me the evil eye like I know he is lying. I tell the prospective buyer you could do way better. Find me walking around and I'll tell you where to go and what you have to do. We hook up and I tell him they only cost $300 plus shipping. Wrote down the info regarding the CMP and he'd have to take it from there. I really dislike dealers who think some folks don't know their prices and take advantage of the unknowing. Anyway that comment regarding not buying anymore 1911A1's after 1943 had me laughing. And not meaning any disrespect. We had an occasion to call the Coast Guard and one of the sailors on the response boat had a rather well worn 1911A1 in a belt holster. I asked him how old he was. Told me 23. I told him your pistol was probably one of the ones last made in 1943. Cause that is when Uncle Sam stopped buying them. So in all likely hood your 45 is probably twice as old as you. I told him my Ithaca 1911A1 was made in 1943. He looked kinda suprised
and didn't think it was that old. I said get on a computer and do a little research with maker and serial number is all you have to do. Mine came from a WWII vet who carried it during his service. Muzzle is a bit dinged up from climbing out of tanks, finish is a bit worn around the front of the slide and wouldn't take no amount of money for it. Barrel is in fine shape. Frank

I got one of those too, still haven't shot it, new in the box, same with a single shot they were selling.
the one that makes me laugh in hindsight is when they sold all those WWiI mosberg training .22lr rifles for about 59bucks a piece if i remember right. Couldn't get the money out of the wallet quick enough. There is still some interesting stuff floating around. At the cmp western regional shoot few years ago they had a table with m1carbines. I notice one with elmer keith's cartouche on the stock from ogden utah. Couldn't get the money out quick enough there either.

 

[RoninPhx]

there was a guy here in town that at one time had a primo collection of military rifles and handguns. I did buy a few off him, his guns were typically the ones you would fine pictures of in the reference books. In the store one day maybe ten years or more ago, a 1911A1 union switch, all correct. He wanted 1500 for it which i thought was rich. Check the price on one today.

 

[codenamedave]

They ought to give Vetrans 1st option to buy one for $1. Then
turn them loose on the dealers. I ain't paying $1000 for a clunk
1911. I remember as late as 1970, a new 1911 could be had for
$100 and a GI was hard to get $40 on trade in a shop. The 1911
M1 and M1.carbine craze didn't hit till 80s.

hmm... sounds good, but only for 1911A1 era vets. The rest a y'all can get one of them thick-handled eye-talian pea-shooters when they start kicking them out in favor of the Sigs.

 

[cmansguns]

An interesting thread to me at least. A lot of info (I believe that some of it is in error) but something to recall about DCM and later CMP is that those rifles you purchased had been checked out and in most cases back in DCM days, had been completely gone over by US Army Armorer's in the various Depot Level shops, and then certified as to Grade. This was not done (IIRC) by the volunteer workers at Anniston (South) or Camp Perry (North).

My two examples: Ithaca M-1911A1, all correct, 1943, the DCM price including shipping to our front door in 1961 was $12.62!
I have been offered $2,600 and it is still in my safe and shoots as good as any of the issue 1911A1's I had over two tours Army.

IHC Garand, all National Match, beautifully done and tuned evidently, by Red River Army Depot in Texarkana and engraved 1966, the last year the Army went through M1 Garands before switching to overhaul and repair of M14's. A very tight shooter sold as Service Grade for $400 and came via Fed-Express with hard case, sling, 1 enbloc clip. Been offered $1,600 for this guy and it too, stays in the safe until I want some range time.

I have quit looking at CMP site because of the dang "auction feature" and I never thought they would become Gun Broker South, but the almighty buck seems to have won out and the latest "sales-auctions" are still mostly mix-masters put together by the volunteers. The volunteers are really good guys who volunteer for a week or so and if you look into it, there is a waiting list, and you pay your own way all the way (travel, living, gas, eats motel...the whole 9 yards). I know a Garand Collector friend of mine who did a week in Anniston several years ago and he thought he was going to find those genuine Winchester op rods, decent cartouched stocks, NM sights and locking knobs, etc.

All he came back with was bone dead tired, and smelling of de-greaser, and no mo money for a "real" vacation.

 

[Grayfox]

I'm gonna take a wait and see attitude. If I buy or not will depend on what they have, condition and price. I already have a USGI 1911 in my collection. Its a 1914 Colt that was re-arsenaled during WW II into a semi A1 model. From its condition, I doubt it was ever reissued. Excellent pistol!
However, I must admit that this new batch does have my interest. Like I said, I'll wait and see.

Like others here, I used a 1911 during my Army days (1972-75). The pistols were old, but completely serviceable. Bear in mind that CMP will inspect and repair as needed each and every pistol. They will be brought up to issue specs.
This young trooper managed to qualify expert with my old rattle-trap 1911.

For those poo pooing CMP. I've bought both a Garand and a Carbine from them. Both excellent rifles and both at about half the going rate of their open market brethren. They sell good stuff at very reasonable prices.

 

[BigBill]

I'm very disappointed. When I read the title: "The U.S. Army Is Selling Some of Its Most Powerful Guns", I was looking for something like this:

I was going to buy two...

I want one of the 155mm howitzers I assembled for the US Army.

 

[BigBill]

I got tired of waiting and wanting a army issue 1911a1. Plus knowing it will be a lesser grade and over priced.

The closest I’ll ever get to one is my 2004 auto Ordnance Army ww2 clone 1911a1 for $389 nib. Since I saved money not on my car insurance I purchased the Springfield armory usgi mil spec as it was called in 2004 for $424. I bought two nib 1911’s rather than one old soldier 1911.

The best grades of the surplus 1911a1’s will go to certain people. I just don’t have time to wait.

 

[sigp220.45]

Latest from CMP:

Decisions concerning the grade and pricing of the 1911s will not be made until inspection has occurred of a substantial quantity which will take an estimated 150 days post receipt.

All laws pertaining to the sale of 1911s by CMP will be strictly obeyed.
Potential purchasers will have to provide to CMP a new set of documents exhibiting: 1) proof of U.S. Citizenship, 2) proof of membership in a CMP affiliated club, 3) proof of participation in a marksmanship activity, 4) a new form 2A with notary, 5) successful completion of a NICS background check, 6) a signed copy of the 01 Federal Firearms License in which the 1911 will be transferred to.

The CMP customer will be required to complete a form 4473 in person and successfully complete another NICS check by the recipient FFL holder before the pistol can be transferred.

Qualified CMP customer will only be allowed to purchase one 1911 per calendar year.

No 1911s available in the CMP stores, or on line, only mail order sales.
CMP will set the date in which it will accept orders for the 1911s. The date will be posted to the world.

Orders will only be accepted via mail order delivery.

Orders will only be accepted post marked on the date or after, no early orders.

Once CMP receives 10,000 orders, customer names will be loaded into the Random Number Generator.

The Random Number Generator will provide a list of names in sequence order through a random picking process to CMP.

Customers will be contacted in the sequence provided by the Random Number Generator.

When the customer is contacted a list of 1911 grades and pricing options that are available will be offered for selection of one.

As CMP proceeds down the sequenced list less grade and pricing options will be available. Again, this done completely random.

 

[Arik]

Not for me. I just want to buy one without jumping through hoops

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[ladder13]

Latest from CMP:

Decisions concerning the grade and pricing of the 1911s will not be made until inspection has occurred of a substantial quantity which will take an estimated 150 days post receipt.

All laws pertaining to the sale of 1911s by CMP will be strictly obeyed.
Potential purchasers will have to provide to CMP a new set of documents exhibiting: 1) proof of U.S. Citizenship, 2) proof of membership in a CMP affiliated club, 3) proof of participation in a marksmanship activity, 4) a new form 2A with notary, 5) successful completion of a NICS background check, 6) a signed copy of the 01 Federal Firearms License in which the 1911 will be transferred to.

The CMP customer will be required to complete a form 4473 in person and successfully complete another NICS check by the recipient FFL holder before the pistol can be transferred.

Qualified CMP customer will only be allowed to purchase one 1911 per calendar year.

No 1911s available in the CMP stores, or on line, only mail order sales.
CMP will set the date in which it will accept orders for the 1911s. The date will be posted to the world.

Orders will only be accepted via mail order delivery.

Orders will only be accepted post marked on the date or after, no early orders.

Once CMP receives 10,000 orders, customer names will be loaded into the Random Number Generator.

The Random Number Generator will provide a list of names in sequence order through a random picking process to CMP.

Customers will be contacted in the sequence provided by the Random Number Generator.

When the customer is contacted a list of 1911 grades and pricing options that are available will be offered for selection of one.

As CMP proceeds down the sequenced list less grade and pricing options will be available. Again, this done completely random.

Only one a year? .

 

[hoc9sw]

I got mine the hard way.

 

[MCorps0311]

Can I buy a 1911 at Fort Knox,or will they be selling them?

 

[sigp220.45]

Can I buy a 1911 at Fort Knox,or will they be selling them?

Nope, only through all the hoop jumping outlined above. Or wait for the first gun show after this starts and get one there at a substantial markup.

 

[Watchdog]

I ain't paying $1000 for a clunk
1911.

Don't, then.

I remember as late as 1970, a new 1911 could be had for $100 and a GI was hard to get $40 on trade in a shop.

That was 47 years ago. Average price for a gallon of gas was $.36. Can't buy it for that now, can we?

It's the 21st Century. It's immaterial what stuff cost in 1970.