Spanish Copy of a 44 Top Break ?
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deadin
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What are the markings on the barrel rib??
Added, Sorry, I'm afraid you are going to have to look more closely at it...
It appears to be a butchered American. (or early Russian?)
Added, Sorry, I'm afraid you are going to have to look more closely at it...
It appears to be a butchered American. (or early Russian?)
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OP
I am waiting on a response from the seller on the barrel markings if it is a butchered one I still would like to have it but not sure what to spend and obviously don't want to overspend, I don't mind paying fair market value just don't want to get in too deep.
Hey Merl, how about a butt shot. Barrel looks a little spurious.
OP
I will ask the owner for one when he contacts me back. with this being New Years eve not sure if I will get a reply tonight.
deadin
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I'm not sure just what a chopped, refinished and homemade grips American should bring. Not much in my book unless I was trying to fill a hole in a collection.
OP
I have lots of holes in mine lol.
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deadin
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If it's a No.3 American, ammo is going to be a little difficult unless you reload and can adapt some brass.
OP
I do reload, and I have made brass for my 1871, and 71/84 Mauser chambered in 11mm Mauser from 45-90 brass, so I understand the process.
deadin
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I think 44 American uses heel seated bullets which also can be hard to find....
I am confident enough that it is a Model 3 American that, if I wanted one, I would buy it. The details are never faithfully followed with foreign copies and I cannot find one element of the revolver that does not look S&W. The single line barrel address matches up exactly with my Model American, 2nd. Even thought you cannot read the stamping, they match exactly.
Value is the tough part to get your head around. Stocks are missing and barrel is butchered, so $500 to $800, depending on how badly you want a cut barrel hogleg.
Forgot to mention that when I was shooting Model 3s, the 41 Remington Magnum was used for brass. All you have to do is trim to .91" and bell the brass to insert the larger bullet. After a few reloads, the brass will expand to fill the chamber. Most likely you will not be able to reload a heeled bullet, so are you are stuck with the undersized 44 Russian RNFP. That is what I shot and with the reduced volume in the case, I think I got about 15 grains of 3F. Performance was surprisingly good, with around 600 fps and good pattern at 10 yards. The 44 Webley LRN is another possibility if you can find them, but when I was shooting, I could not find a source. I doubt that the improvement in accuracy would be anything to write home about..
Value is the tough part to get your head around. Stocks are missing and barrel is butchered, so $500 to $800, depending on how badly you want a cut barrel hogleg.
Forgot to mention that when I was shooting Model 3s, the 41 Remington Magnum was used for brass. All you have to do is trim to .91" and bell the brass to insert the larger bullet. After a few reloads, the brass will expand to fill the chamber. Most likely you will not be able to reload a heeled bullet, so are you are stuck with the undersized 44 Russian RNFP. That is what I shot and with the reduced volume in the case, I think I got about 15 grains of 3F. Performance was surprisingly good, with around 600 fps and good pattern at 10 yards. The 44 Webley LRN is another possibility if you can find them, but when I was shooting, I could not find a source. I doubt that the improvement in accuracy would be anything to write home about..
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opoefc
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The gun is a Model 3, 2nd model American. If mechanically sound worth, as said above, in the $500-$800 range, depending on caliber. Ed.
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Thanks for all of the advice and comments. I would like to have it if I can get it for the right price as I do not have one of these. Being on a tight budget makes ones in nicer condition out of my reach so I am hopeful ...
deadin
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It would be interesting if it ends up being in .44 Henry Rimfire....
OP
Well sometimes things just don't work out, hopefully whomever bought it will show it here, so we can have a good look at it. Thanks everyone !
deadin
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Just out of curiosity, what was the asking price??
OP
would have been $660 with tax which was more than I could afford to pay right now 
Looks like a paperweight to me.
deadin
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So no real bargain and a low appreciation potential. (Now were it a 44 Rimfire, the story might be a little different.)
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