I would love to see someone ask these kids "What is the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, etc... amendment. I bet they don't have a clue. Most probably don't know what the first amendment is. They are just following the crowd. As for the judge. Another anti-American.
"Repeal The Second Amendment"
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I really liked that you cited sources for the quotations; your post should be a primer for the illiterate and under-educated snowflakes yelling about evil guns.
SC_Mike
Member
Teens: Eating laundry detergent last week. This week they're Constitutional/2A experts. Next week I imagine they'll be able to fly...
Make sure you hire one for the summer while they still know everything.
Make sure you hire one for the summer while they still know everything.
Actually, I think he does understand, but doesn't like them and is sure he knows what's best for us.
There are people in the political elite class that are worried about
what is coming down the road. They are not all in this for the same reasons but they are allies. There is going to come a point
in the future that the welfare state can't be maintained. There
will be mass chaos when the government can't provide food and the everyday needs of the dependents. That is why they want to
dissolve or rewrite the constitution. There are quite a few of the
Admendments that are troublesome to would be take overs of
our government. All your civil rights just to name a "few"
what is coming down the road. They are not all in this for the same reasons but they are allies. There is going to come a point
in the future that the welfare state can't be maintained. There
will be mass chaos when the government can't provide food and the everyday needs of the dependents. That is why they want to
dissolve or rewrite the constitution. There are quite a few of the
Admendments that are troublesome to would be take overs of
our government. All your civil rights just to name a "few"
SquarePizza
Member
Justice Stevens: Repeal the 2nd
This article has been floating around a lot today as it is very charged.
It seems that Justice Stevens takes issue with the Heller decision that firearms ownership is an INDIVIDUAL right, and makes the claim that Justice Scalia was wrong. Stevens claims that firearms are not an individual right and therefore we should modernize or completely repeal the 2A.
A lot of the press has vilified the NRA for saying that they are coming for our guns, but it appears at least some (retired) political figures are openly saying just that...
Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment - CNNPolitics
This article has been floating around a lot today as it is very charged.
It seems that Justice Stevens takes issue with the Heller decision that firearms ownership is an INDIVIDUAL right, and makes the claim that Justice Scalia was wrong. Stevens claims that firearms are not an individual right and therefore we should modernize or completely repeal the 2A.
A lot of the press has vilified the NRA for saying that they are coming for our guns, but it appears at least some (retired) political figures are openly saying just that...
Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment - CNNPolitics
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LoboGunLeather
US Veteran
I will state my opinion as clearly as I can.
The Constitutional Convention (1787-1789) would never have succeeded in passing our Constitution, and the Constitution never would have achieved ratification, without the inclusion of the Bill of Rights. Historical fact, everything else is mere rhetoric. Inclusion of the Bill of Rights, including the Second Amendment, was the deal killer of that time.
Our Constitution forms the basis of the social contract. In the event that any significant portion of our Constitution is repealed I suggest that the social contract is broken, none of the several states nor any of the citizenry are then further bound to that contract. Each and every person, and each and every state, becomes independent and sovereign with no further obligation to the national government. Several states might secede, other states might enter into open rebellion. Many citizens would refuse to comply, and a significant number would take up arms.
A deal is a deal. Change the deal and everyone else involved is free to walk away. Period.
Anyone, retired Supreme Court justice or otherwise, who seriously thinks that 110-120 million US gun owners will simply shrug their shoulders and surrender their arms meekly are delusional, if not worse. I would expect a minimum of 1% to 2% (approx. 1.1-2.4 million citizens) would not only refuse to comply, they would enter into active armed rebellion.
The American Revolution began on April 19, 1775 when British General Gage sent armed troops to Lexington and Concord for the specific purpose of seizing arms and ammunition. Throughout the Revolutionary War there were never more than a small percentage of the American population actively involved, but they prevailed over the preeminent military power of the world at that time.
Any attempt to impose widespread or general gun control today would undoubtedly ignite the second American Revolution, and I doubt that those advocating such measures would stand for long against daily body counts of KIA's and WIA's in their misguided attempts to restructure the American people into their utopian dream society.
Attempts at gun control started the first American Revolution. I fully expect that attempts at gun control would start the second American Revolution.
The Constitutional Convention (1787-1789) would never have succeeded in passing our Constitution, and the Constitution never would have achieved ratification, without the inclusion of the Bill of Rights. Historical fact, everything else is mere rhetoric. Inclusion of the Bill of Rights, including the Second Amendment, was the deal killer of that time.
Our Constitution forms the basis of the social contract. In the event that any significant portion of our Constitution is repealed I suggest that the social contract is broken, none of the several states nor any of the citizenry are then further bound to that contract. Each and every person, and each and every state, becomes independent and sovereign with no further obligation to the national government. Several states might secede, other states might enter into open rebellion. Many citizens would refuse to comply, and a significant number would take up arms.
A deal is a deal. Change the deal and everyone else involved is free to walk away. Period.
Anyone, retired Supreme Court justice or otherwise, who seriously thinks that 110-120 million US gun owners will simply shrug their shoulders and surrender their arms meekly are delusional, if not worse. I would expect a minimum of 1% to 2% (approx. 1.1-2.4 million citizens) would not only refuse to comply, they would enter into active armed rebellion.
The American Revolution began on April 19, 1775 when British General Gage sent armed troops to Lexington and Concord for the specific purpose of seizing arms and ammunition. Throughout the Revolutionary War there were never more than a small percentage of the American population actively involved, but they prevailed over the preeminent military power of the world at that time.
Any attempt to impose widespread or general gun control today would undoubtedly ignite the second American Revolution, and I doubt that those advocating such measures would stand for long against daily body counts of KIA's and WIA's in their misguided attempts to restructure the American people into their utopian dream society.
Attempts at gun control started the first American Revolution. I fully expect that attempts at gun control would start the second American Revolution.
coachray
Member
I saw that on the news earlier. Very disturbing.
If GUNS are the reason for the small number of mass killings ,why are they not a problem in Switzerland?I think because they have a different mind set in that country.
Unfortunately.....I fear it would, because it would be be the end of America as we have known it otherwise. Although, I certainly hope it never comes to that.
"Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death", Patrick Henry. And he meant it!!
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Gripgrabber
US Veteran
FREE TIDE PODS AT EVERY HIGH SCHOOL! That will fix these constitutional scholars. At least it might clean up DAVID HOGG's mouth.
Semper paratus
Semper paratus
BigBill
Absent Comrade
It's not the guns. These kids have been bullied, ripped into verbally, abused by other kids so bad there ready to go postal. We need to address these bullied kids before it gets to the shooting point.
We need hotlines and a radio talk show to help these kids they have no one to turn too. This last kid lost both parents. He was probably frustrated.
Now add bullying and it set him off. They need guidance.
I worked with neighborhood kids there is no such thing as a bad kid there is a good kid inside trying to get out.
This has nothing to do with guns or the 2nd amendment.
Until we understand how to help these kids before they get to the postal point this will probably continue.
Everytime I see this shooter from fla he looks like the shooters brother from newtown,ct. they look like a deer caught in the headlights. They don't realize or understand what they did there confused.
Other kids who bully think it funny but there so mean.
We need hotlines and a radio talk show to help these kids they have no one to turn too. This last kid lost both parents. He was probably frustrated.
Now add bullying and it set him off. They need guidance.
I worked with neighborhood kids there is no such thing as a bad kid there is a good kid inside trying to get out.
This has nothing to do with guns or the 2nd amendment.
Until we understand how to help these kids before they get to the postal point this will probably continue.
Everytime I see this shooter from fla he looks like the shooters brother from newtown,ct. they look like a deer caught in the headlights. They don't realize or understand what they did there confused.
Other kids who bully think it funny but there so mean.
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It's time for the supporters of the 2nd Amendment to stand up and be heard.....the NRA needs our support now more than ever.
Today's children and young adults are too easily willing to throw away a constitutional right and yet our voices are NOT being heard.......even though another constitutional RIGHT is allowing them to spout off.
I fear that future generations are doomed to make a serious change that will be irreversible and I for one will do all I can to keep that from happening.
The Australians, Canadians and others have had their guns taken away due to lack of constitutional rights and we must do everything in our power to get these youngsters to get their heads out of the sand and WAKE UP!!
Just sayin......
Today's children and young adults are too easily willing to throw away a constitutional right and yet our voices are NOT being heard.......even though another constitutional RIGHT is allowing them to spout off.
I fear that future generations are doomed to make a serious change that will be irreversible and I for one will do all I can to keep that from happening.
The Australians, Canadians and others have had their guns taken away due to lack of constitutional rights and we must do everything in our power to get these youngsters to get their heads out of the sand and WAKE UP!!
Just sayin......
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I have said.....
I have said repeatedly that the REAL problem this country has is a penchant for violence as a solution to everything, while at the same time being glorified all over.
I have said repeatedly that the REAL problem this country has is a penchant for violence as a solution to everything, while at the same time being glorified all over.
I think it is because of the " I don't have to work, the government is going to take care of me. That is it's job" mentality. The "It Takes a Village" ****. No, it takes a father and a mother being involved in their kids life that has become lost. We, as kids, worked for .25 cents an hour. Didn't get $1,000 phones. Did not have to have what everyone else had. Nothing was just given to us because we didn't have the money to buy it. You worked for what you wanted, or you did't get it. And Mom and DAD made you work, or you got your butt whipped. Did't damage me, sure made me do the right thing...most of the time anyway
We mowed yards, sold bottles, pushed grocery carts, raked leaves. These spoiled kids know nothing about doing that. Gimme, gimme, gimme, he has one I want one. And I want it now. And they can't stand those who are not like them, and push them to the limit. Then blame people who had nothing to do with it when it comes back to bite them. SAD, and pretty much hopeless I'm sorry to say.
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I think you hit the nail on the head, but....
Those are really good points. But selfish and spoiled behavior doesn't seem to lead people to mass murder. just whining adults who want everything done for them. I hear you though. We got a roof over our heads, food to eat and clothes to wear. Anything else we had to work for ourselves. It bugged me some, but I felt like I was better off than a lot of kids i knew.
PS. My folks did make sure we got a good Christmas. i don't remember being disappointed.
I think it is because of the " I don't have to work, the government is going to take care of me. That is it's job" mentality. The "It Takes a Village" ****. No, it takes a father and a mother being involved in their kids life that has become lost. We, as kids, worked for .25 cents an hour. Didn't get $1,000 phones. Did not have to have what everyone else had. Nothing was just given to us because we didn't have the money to buy it. You worked for what you wanted, or you did't get it. And Mom and DAD made you work, or you got your butt whipped. Did't damage me, sure made me do the right thing...most of the time anyway
Those are really good points. But selfish and spoiled behavior doesn't seem to lead people to mass murder. just whining adults who want everything done for them. I hear you though. We got a roof over our heads, food to eat and clothes to wear. Anything else we had to work for ourselves. It bugged me some, but I felt like I was better off than a lot of kids i knew.
PS. My folks did make sure we got a good Christmas. i don't remember being disappointed.
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4506517
Member
Where the heck did my country go?
This is something that the Soviet Union wanted to happen years ago.
How?
This is something that the Soviet Union wanted to happen years ago.
How?
bill2000
Member
Below is Justice Steven's most recent brain scan brain scan
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Thank goodness he is a "FORMER" SCJ. Unfortunately the media eats this stuff up, so it is plastered as a headline across every news feed and the "former" gets lost in the hype.
The old dude needs to keep his mouth shut, no one cares what he thinks. Blasphemous old coot.
The old dude needs to keep his mouth shut, no one cares what he thinks. Blasphemous old coot.
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