Full size 1911, practical CCW?

[nachogrande]

BAITING/TROLLING MUCH?

Hummmm point of view???? Can you tell me why the military junked that clunker???? Now that's more than a point of view it is the naked truth and a FACT! The 1911 is Military Scrap! Sorry I didn't mean to hurt your feelings with the truth! The truth is a pesky thing it always comes out. Now on the positive side, you only have to tell it once as it never changes!!!!!! The 1911 is junk! The do make great conversation pieces and small boat anchors though!

Gaston Glock has improved the locked breech gun world by a gigantic leap into the future. Did you know that there are more Glocks in the world than any other brand????? Plastic guns are here to stay and S&W M&P Series are excellent examples of the modern world of today. 1911 stopped in 1912 This my point of view! Sorry if it offends you junk lovers! Do you drive a 1911 car too???

"JUNK LOVERS" ??? FISHING for trouble, you will surely catch your limit.

 

[M29since14]

...BTW if your 1911 drips oil and stains your clothing, it is overly oiled!

Your mileage may vary,

Jack

Jack’s correct. Four tiny drops of oil are all you need on a completely dry 1911, for all but the most extensive shooting.

But back to the OP’s question, my own experience is that the Government model is too heavy, for me. I’ve had a Commander for close to fifty years now. They will absolutely spoil you for heavier guns. I’m about 6’/190. I used to have no issues with IWB carry but nowadays I have become comfort-oriented and only use normal belt holsters at 4-5 o’clock.

Like Dave, I have always been tempted to try an alloy-framed Government model but just never got around to it. The Commander, in either .45 or Super .38, does exactly what I want. As to the 9mm idea, if I wanted to carry a 9mm, and I don’t, it would be something non-1911. I have never seen a 9mm 1911 magazine that inspired confidence.

 

[M29since14]

I have a question.. do you also troll 1911 forums with your point of view..?

RC would have quite an audience, wouldn’t he?

I have a nice looking rock with flat bottom in my loading room in the basement. Weighs about a pound. Plenty heavy for a paperweight. Maybe he and I could make a trade? His 1911 would be gone and he’d still have something to hold down his papers. I’d have another 1911 and I could learn to get along without my rock. Win-win!

 

[BAM-BAM]

It's been a few years but IIRC; the Commander is a alloy frame.....the Combat Commander is steel! Do I have that wrong??? Again IIRC the steel framed gun is about 10-12 oz heavier than the alloy frame.

 

[BAM-BAM]

RC would have quite an audience, wouldn’t he?

I have a nice looking rock with flat bottom in my loading room in the basement. Weighs about a pound. Plenty heavy for a paperweight. Maybe he and I could make a trade? His 1911 would be gone and he’d still have something to hold down his papers. I’d have another 1911 and I could learn to get along without my rock. Win-win!

Careful..... OC "shoots to Kill". But never with a 1911..... well not since 1912!

 

[bigggbbruce]

I would not take a 1911 if you gave it to me.

So here you say you wouldn't own one.

I use my 1911 for a paperweight on my desk

Here you say you own one.

Hummmm point of view???? Can you tell me why the military junked that clunker????

But you own 1911 junk.. right.. or don't you remember what you said.

The 1911 forum is waiting for your insight.

 

[Xfuzz]

Just sat this on the desk after returning from breakfast.
Tee Shirt/Wranglers...Mexican carry.

Been packin this "Junker" or one like it near 45 years.
1911-2018 is a long production run for a "junker" platform
that has been copied by countless gun companies for over 100 years.

 

[jwk]

If you can wear an appropriate covering garment (lifestyle or climate) no problem carrying a 1911. LW Commander type pistols carry easy. When it is 100 degrees out and you can't wear your shirt untucked anything you can't pocket carry makes you miserable, not uncomfortable but miserable. If open carry ever becomes truly acceptable a 1911 would be my first choice. When weather permits a covering garment also my first choice. Only other time it isn't my 1st choice is open carry in the field when I'm woods bumming. Then i prefer a full size revolver.

 

[keith44spl]

Just sat this on the desk after returning from breakfast.
Tee Shirt/Wranglers...Mexican carry.

Been packin this "Junker" or one like it near 45 years.
1911-2018 is a long production run for a "junker" platform
that has been copied by countless gun companies for over 100 years.

You know I'm like that for sure!!!

Su Amigo,
Dave


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[CelticSire]

Hummmm point of view???? Can you tell me why the military junked that clunker????

So that the US military would carry the NATO 9mm round. No other reason. And, there are still US military units today that issue and carry a 1911 platform pistol.

Gaston Glock has improved the locked breech gun world by a gigantic leap into the future.

Uh, no. What Gaston Glock DID do was to mass produce a pistol with an unsupported chamber design in order to make it feed reliably. A dangerous design that has resulted in numerous catastrophic failures. I've had two blow up in my hand. [/QUOTE]

Did you know that there are more Glocks in the world than any other brand?????

Mass produced junk is still junk.

 

[BAM-BAM]

Just sat this on the desk after returning from breakfast.

There's just something about a 1911 with stag grips.......... the early 20th Century, Poncho Villa, The Wild Bunch, Texas Rangers....... and
Keith44spl

 

[fredj338]

Hummmm point of view???? Can you tell me why the military junked that clunker???? Now that's more than a point of view it is the naked truth and a FACT! The 1911 is Military Scrap! Sorry I didn't mean to hurt your feelings with the truth! The truth is a pesky thing it always comes out. Now on the positive side, you only have to tell it once as it never changes!!!!!! The 1911 is junk! The do make great conversation pieces and small boat anchors though!

Gaston Glock has improved the locked breech gun world by a gigantic leap into the future. Did you know that there are more Glocks in the world than any other brand????? Plastic guns are here to stay and S&W M&P Series are excellent examples of the modern world of today. 1911 stopped in 1912 This my point of view! Sorry if it offends you junk lovers! Do you drive a 1911 car too???

The current cost to produce a quality 1911 & the higher ammo capacity & lighter recoil for smaller personnel is why the 1911 is no longer the US pistol of choice. The 1911 has been around, still used widely today many civi & LEO, after 105y. We will see if the Glock lasts that long. I like the Glock, but to declare the 1911 junk, well I think probably because you can not shoot one very well??

 

[SAFireman]

I'm game....

I like the 1911 and the Commander Models. I am getting too thick in the middle for IWB any more, so a good belt & holster is the only way to fly.

 

[one eye joe]

Hummmm point of view???? Can you tell me why the military junked that clunker???? Now that's more than a point of view it is the naked truth and a FACT! The 1911 is Military Scrap! Sorry I didn't mean to hurt your feelings with the truth! The truth is a pesky thing it always comes out. Now on the positive side, you only have to tell it once as it never changes!!!!!! The 1911 is junk! The do make great conversation pieces and small boat anchors though!

Gaston Glock has improved the locked breech gun world by a gigantic leap into the future. Did you know that there are more Glocks in the world than any other brand????? Plastic guns are here to stay and S&W M&P Series are excellent examples of the modern world of today. 1911 stopped in 1912 This my point of view! Sorry if it offends you junk lovers! Do you drive a 1911 car too???

DESPITE YOUR OPINION, Retired Cop, the 1911 IS FAR FROM JUNK ! ! !

IT HAS BEEN TAKING CARE OF UNCLE SAM'S BUSINESS, IN COMBAT THEATERS ALL OVER THE WORLD, SINCE BEFORE YOU WERE BORN. IT IS STILL THE PREFERRED WEAPON FOR SOME ELITE MILITARY UNITS. IT IS A CLASSIC......

AND NO, I DON'T DRIVE A 1911 CAR. I DO DRIVE A 1967 CORVETTE, STINGRAY ROADSTER. ITS A NUMBERS MATCHING CAR, THAT I TREATED TO A BODY-OFF-FRAME RESTORATION. ITS A NATIONAL CORVETTE RESTORERS SOCIETY AWARD WINNER......

YES, ITS A CLASSIC, AS WELL ! ! !

 

[dr. mordo]

I'm 5'8" @ 175 lbs and I carried a alloy frame 1911 Commander for a while with no issues at all. It is still my go-to semi auto CCW though my FN HP is a close second and gaining. A Gov't would be a bit more of a challenge, but I'm confident I could carry one OWB at 4 o'clock with no problems.

IMO the 1911 is still the pinnacle of semi auto pistol design, and I've been shooting for 30 years and owned a lot of guns. Despite being a cheaper brand, mine has been brilliant, meanwhile I've had other guns, including Glocks, that were utter garbage. Saint John was a god-dang genius.

 

[bigggbbruce]

At 6' 190 lbs. I've been carrying all my CCW guns AIWB for 30+ years. Everything from J fame snubs all the way to 4" N-frames and 5" 1911's.

I've backed off on the 5" 1911 to a 4" Kimber Pro Carry, the inch shorter is less painful at times.

AIWB for me the big guns wedge in my iliac crest and it actually holds my pants up. I walk many miles a day and I don't struggle with pullin' my pants up.

 

[Russell Cottle]

Carry one regularly, Mexican style for short runs and in a 'Summer Special' for longer hauls. My 'Government model' is exactly that, an old Ithica surplus fitted with an Essex aluminum frame from the late '50's. It's back up is a Ruger R1911 LW Commander.

 

[kci-mia]

From 1989 to 2008 this was what carried on me all the time. A Frankenstein Government model in 45 ACP and spare 8 round magazine...plus 2 more magazine in the cupholder of my truck.

On November 25 of 2008 I had a car crash and injured my back. I couldn't support the weight of the Government model and spare magazine anymore so I had to switch. I started carrying this Glock 19 without spare mag but after few years I added the spare 15 round mag...plus another spare mag in my cup holder of my truck.

My back is never going to get back to what it was before the accident and it can only get worse so now I try to carry minimal weight. In last few years I started carrying this Kimber Ultra Carry in 45ACP plus a spare mag.

When my back gets really bad I just carry this in my pocket.

 

[bigggbbruce]

Carry one regularly, Mexican style for short runs

It amazes me how well they sit on the waistband.

 

[Russell Cottle]

It amazes me how well they sit on the waistband.

Yessir, they are handy that way........