Those rounds look like the 200 grain Super Police. Iffn' I was you, I'd remove them and wipe them down. The leather causes verdigris, the green stuff on the ammo.
Just inherited my Grandfather's 38/44 Outdoorsman
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kthom
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That leather gear is in remarkably good condition, in my opinion! He obviously took very good care of it. That revolver with that gear is a treasure anyone would love to have, but for you, it's got to be priceless!
.455_Hunter
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Thank you for keeping and cherishing this awesome piece of family history!
So many times we read on this forum about guns leaving families due to the shortsightedness of decendants caused by hoplophobia or the desire for a quick buck.
So many times we read on this forum about guns leaving families due to the shortsightedness of decendants caused by hoplophobia or the desire for a quick buck.
.455_Hunter
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FYI- The Buffalo Bore .38 Special 158 gr +P loadings are pretty close to the original .38-44 level.
Maybe I'm the odd man out here, but I wouldn't change the stocks to make it more original. The existing stocks, the engraved name. THAT was the way his Grandpa carried it.
Hand held history, it is . . . .
.455 Hunter, this OD will be handed down to one of my son's someday.
Do you mean the rounds in the belt? I believe those rounds date back to the 40's or 50's. I don't really know.
My Grandfather retired from the PPD, as Acting-Chief-of-Police in 1967. I don't think he ever pulled the guns out of the drawer after that.
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ParadiseRoad
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...make sure you don't keep the revolver in the holster for the long term...
...leather holsters aren't a good way to store guns...
...you have about as good an example of revolver enthusiast family memorabilia there that I could ever imagine...
...enjoy!...
...leather holsters aren't a good way to store guns...
...you have about as good an example of revolver enthusiast family memorabilia there that I could ever imagine...
...enjoy!...
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kthom
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What Muley said! I'm loathe to clean up brass that is containing live bullets and powder that I expect to use for serious business in future, but it can be done judiciously. I'm guessing you will likely never fire those original rounds anyway, right? I would suggest some Never Dull Magic Wadding Polish for all kinds of metal. Its a soft stuff that won't scratch unless dirty with grit. It's a yellowish wadding contained in a round can about four inches in diameter and about the same height. Measurements are my estimates! Pinch off a large enough piece of the wadding and polish each cassing with it. Doesn't take long, but it takes a minnit or so, and does not leave much if any liquid on the metal. Let it dry for about a couple minnits and then polish the metal with a clean dry soft cloth. Stuff works great on bullets and silver stuff too! A can will last you forever, and unless you just flat wear out the small wad you use, you can put it back in the can and reuse it till it's black and worn out. I see it in the cleaning product sections at grocery stores, etc, and I'd bet a hundred dollars you can find it on Amazon! Doesn't cost much either. Of course, my can that's years old is still half full of the stuff. I do think it may have dried out a bit in time, but it still works OK. Clean up that ammo and store it in a regular divided cartride box. You can also clean the green stuff (verdigris) off the leather too (NOT with the Never Dull!) and that old rig will be standing tall for the future. I say again, what a treasure!
BTW, that never dull will put a shine on that brass Sam Browne buckle and other brass parts on the rig! It may have to be repeated in time, but just wipe off your fingerprints when polishing and refrain from touching the brass with your fingers and the shine will last a long time!
BTW, that never dull will put a shine on that brass Sam Browne buckle and other brass parts on the rig! It may have to be repeated in time, but just wipe off your fingerprints when polishing and refrain from touching the brass with your fingers and the shine will last a long time!
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.455_Hunter
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No. The rounds in belt are 200 gr Super Police loads, just featuring a heavy bullet at normal .38 pressure. The .38-44 loading was developed in conjunction with these guns (Outdoorsman & Heavy Duty) and featured the standard 158 gr bullet at I believe a nominal 1150 fps for almost .357 Mag performance.
Ken, I have a tin of Never Dull in the garage somewhere. I've used it on various metal parts for decades (mostly with one tin, too), so I concur.
Those rounds will never be used. Too cool to see those, with the belt, the holster and the revolver.
Those rounds will never be used. Too cool to see those, with the belt, the holster and the revolver.
Excellent post, love the pic's. I would love to see a pic of your Grampa on his Motor. I was also a Motor Cop but retired 3 1/2 yrs ago. Love the history you have there. Great Safety Speed clamshell holster from a period when all a Copper needed was his Service Revolver-Handcuffs-Extra Ammo-Sap and common sense...
Mike in Reedley
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Cool deal! What make is the clamshell? Safety Speed?
kthom
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AS you know, rocknroad, it's handy stuff. My wife uses it to clean her jewelry and other stuff in the house too!
Here are some shots as I spent a few minutes cleaning up the rounds last night. I finally found my old tin of Never Dull and gently wiped them down.
Before and After: (actually, in process and after...I had already wiped off the black and green corrosion)
All the old soldiers, cleaned up.
I am not finding any markings on the holster that indicate the manufacturer.
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Sounds to me like that gun and outfit is in very good hands. You will love shooting that gun, I sure like mine and it doesn't have the history yours does. I usually just shoot standard .38 loads and it is like shooting a k-frame .32 with those.
A coat or two of Renaissance Wax will protect that shine and keep fingerprints off them. I have a large shell (3"), I made into a pencil/pen etc. holder for my desk that I polished and then put Renaissance wax on 12 years ago, and it is still clean and shiny.
Nice family heirloom........
I have my Dad's ( also a motorcycle/Indian rider before the war) 6" .357 Colt New Service with King Sights....... I think long barrels were more the norm back then......
I have several of my Dad's old Badges.... Patrolman (no rank), Lt and Capt...... missing a Sargent's badge....... might not have been one.
I have my Dad's ( also a motorcycle/Indian rider before the war) 6" .357 Colt New Service with King Sights....... I think long barrels were more the norm back then......
I have several of my Dad's old Badges.... Patrolman (no rank), Lt and Capt...... missing a Sargent's badge....... might not have been one.
I admit I am a complete newb to the collector S&W knowledge and need your help here.
I finally took the stocks off of my Grandfather's OD to see what was under the, apparently, aftermarket/custom grips. I found a few markings that look like they are from the factory but, I am clueless. Does anyone know what these all mean?
The red circles are the locations of the first marks..
Then, these letters are on the opposite side of the frame...
I finally took the stocks off of my Grandfather's OD to see what was under the, apparently, aftermarket/custom grips. I found a few markings that look like they are from the factory but, I am clueless. Does anyone know what these all mean?
The red circles are the locations of the first marks..
Then, these letters are on the opposite side of the frame...
