I suspect our respective states of residence are primarily responsible for the impasse . . .
Anyone have an issue with this?
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I suspect our respective states of residence are primarily responsible for the impasse . . .
F75gunslinger
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Could be. I don't think the way many New Yorkers do,but I do see a lot of negative gun press.
I just bought six chances for $25 on a Sig Sauer SigM400 being sold by high school students to raise money for their senior trip. Little league baseball raffled a Glock 43. Nobody complaining about those things here.
F75gunslinger
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Hell, they're trying to get the local school sponsored trap and skeet teams outlawed here...
Hell, they're trying to get the local school sponsored trap and skeet teams outlawed here...
Like I said, you're in NY, I'm in flyover country . . .
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Just because you think nobody's watching doesn't make it so. Just because you're fooling doesn't mean everybody gets it.
A (former) prosecutor of my acquaintance used to pass the time waiting for the jurors by dry firing a 1911 at a picture on his office wall. Later moved to another city where he wasn't so well known.
One day at the mall he spotted a realistic-looking UZI cap gun (long before orange caps) and decided to have some fun. He bought the toy and hid in the parking lot. When his wife returned to the car he shoved the muzzle in her ribs, barked "Get in the car [expletive]". He "forced" her to drive home, where their mutual excitement over the kidnapping fantasy took its natural course...until the SWAT team arrived. Coptus interruptus.
Another customer had seen the whole thing, took down the plate and reported it as an actual kidnapping.
No crime was committed and it may sound like fun but he would agree today it was incredibly stupid.
A (former) prosecutor of my acquaintance used to pass the time waiting for the jurors by dry firing a 1911 at a picture on his office wall. Later moved to another city where he wasn't so well known.
One day at the mall he spotted a realistic-looking UZI cap gun (long before orange caps) and decided to have some fun. He bought the toy and hid in the parking lot. When his wife returned to the car he shoved the muzzle in her ribs, barked "Get in the car [expletive]". He "forced" her to drive home, where their mutual excitement over the kidnapping fantasy took its natural course...until the SWAT team arrived. Coptus interruptus.
Another customer had seen the whole thing, took down the plate and reported it as an actual kidnapping.
No crime was committed and it may sound like fun but he would agree today it was incredibly stupid.
Way back when I went through academy I won the Marksmanship award (academy stuff, not world championships, etc). I attribute that to the fairly extensive practice I did in my hallway at home dry firing my 66 while being aimed at a target and while balancing an empty casing on top of the frame. The idea, of course, being to stay on target and dry fire as many times as you can without having the casing fall off. Many people also did/do this with a coin. It's really great practice, at least with a revolver.
The guy in the story is an idiot!
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A lot of data is missing here.
Georgia is pretty good about toting, but we can't carry on school property or at sporting events.
Was the field on school property? Was he allowed to tote at the soccer field?
Also- was it after dark? If it was after dark, what would/could happen if any of YOU were walking through that park? You round a corner in the trail, or pass a clump of trees and see a backlighted figure (from the soccer field) suddenly draw a handgun and snap it in your general direction.
Would you be tempted to put two or three quick ones in center mass???
If it is daylight and you round that corner or pass that clump of trees, would you do any differently?
Open carry is NOT the issue here.
Stupidity is.
How do we know the weapon is fully cleared?
How do we know he isn't practicing for an assault on the field?
I'm all for toting. I do it a lot.
I DON'T pull it out till I'm taking it off or about to shoot something.
He's a moron, and he DOES make the non-gun people WONDER if we are all morons.
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Doug M.
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Breast feeding is a perfectly natural and legitimate. What was described here was not. Even if his actions were not unlawful, which would depend on state law on the issue, they were ill-advised. Except in the most unusual circumstances, no one should know you are armed until it's REALLY IMPORTANT that they know you are as part of making them stop whatever they are doing before the defensive plan gets to the loud phase.
Does he directly impact anyone here? Probably not. Does this kind of stuff draw attention and make us more and more enemies among the sheeple who hate and fear us because they do not understand? Yes. I have experienced it on LE calls. I just experienced it in a discussion with one of the staff at my chiropractor's office - we had some harsh views about the moonbats who support I1639*, one of whom turned out to be present and got all bent out of shape. Do not underestimate the importance of the issue in the on-going conflict of cultures.
* I1639 is a terrible anti-gun Initiative here in WA, driven by the Bloomberg kooks and other totalitarians, that will likely be the last nail in the coffin of this state as we are Californicated, and force me to move upon retirement. I truly did not expect such even 3 years ago.
Does he directly impact anyone here? Probably not. Does this kind of stuff draw attention and make us more and more enemies among the sheeple who hate and fear us because they do not understand? Yes. I have experienced it on LE calls. I just experienced it in a discussion with one of the staff at my chiropractor's office - we had some harsh views about the moonbats who support I1639*, one of whom turned out to be present and got all bent out of shape. Do not underestimate the importance of the issue in the on-going conflict of cultures.
* I1639 is a terrible anti-gun Initiative here in WA, driven by the Bloomberg kooks and other totalitarians, that will likely be the last nail in the coffin of this state as we are Californicated, and force me to move upon retirement. I truly did not expect such even 3 years ago.
Whitwabit
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Not enough info !!
But if it was considered a recreational area the TN law says ..
It is illegal to carry a firearm in public recreational areas. This rule does not apply to military or national guard personnel on active duty, U.S. civil officers within their official duties, students taking part in weapons training courses, registered security guards; and under certain circumstances, people licensed to hunt or display weapons at trade shows. (Tenn. Code Ann. § 39-17-1311.)
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Rastoff
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Indeed. I don't even know if the story is true or fabricated. Still, it's a good discussion.
You missed this part, " (I) Persons possessing a handgun, who are authorized to carry the handgun pursuant to § 39-17-1351..." So, if he has a license then it's legal for him to carry in a recreational park.
However, the law is long and convoluted and is never that simple. There are many "pursuant to (insert paragraph number or letter or another code)" phrases in that law. There are lots of ways for a community to make what he did illegal. But, as you say, we don't know all the information relative to this action.
nachogrande
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EXERCISING YOUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.
It was completely accidental that he had a big audience, when a few feet further into the woods nobody would have seen him.
Aside from being just plain dumb. Was the gun loaded?
It was completely accidental that he had a big audience, when a few feet further into the woods nobody would have seen him.
Aside from being just plain dumb. Was the gun loaded?
It would be great if we lived in a place where something like this was acceptable and it didn't bother people because no one would think that the was a possibility of any kind of incident. History has proven that sometimes people do some unthinkable things. So, reasonable people do worry. Not thinking about how your actions with a gun might be viewed is irresponsible.
About the poorest judgment possible. If I had been the responding police officer I would have thought of some reason to arrest him and let a judge decide what he thinks about it. If it happened as described, that's just ridiculous.
You would have thought of a reason to arrest him...
Wonderful. That's the attitude LE needs. Arrest him for something . . . anything.
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Beachcomber
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Forest Gump said it best... "Stupid is as stupid does."
something to think about kids soccer game, public sporting event, people in the stands lots of children I could see how someone could be concerned hope it wasn't on school grounds
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Rastoff
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Yep, this is part of the problem. If the responding officer has to dream up a reason to arrest someone, they are applying their own feelings on the situation. That can never be good.
I was gonna comment on that back when it was posted, but I was hoping somebody else would chime in. Thank you . . .
fredj338
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I have said it many times, some people should not be allowed to carry a gun. What a *******g idiot. Hopefully they take away his permit, makes the rest of the diligent ccw look stupid. Free red meat for the antigun media.
