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HOLSTER BEAUTY CONTEST?
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Here is the Heiser #753 holster and #45 belt. This was the most expensive catalog holster and belt offered by H.H. Heiser. If you walked into Heiser in Denver in 1936 you would have to pony up nearly the equivalent of $1000 in today's money for this rig. She's a beauty! Bill
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I think I remember seein' that one in the Heiser Store in Denver a few decades back.
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Real carved leather has a look that is really classic even though it is not put together by a "CLASSIC Holster Company." Here is a Bucheimer carved holster that I let go of several years ago.
I have one of those, too! I bought mine, because at first glance it is the most like Tom Threepersons' original than any other maker's, since his time. I especially got a kick out of the Bucheimer having a leg thong purposefully attached, as did Tom's original:
Much has been said over the last 100 years about Tom's own holster, none of it really correct. Note, for example, it is the spare holster it was said to be but does not ride 'high with the grip pitched forward to a marked degree'. His is relatively low by today's standards and is angled just a few degrees 'positive' (rear sight ahead of the front sight). It was the Myres design that was named for him, that was high riding and carried at about a 25 degree positive angle.
Images of Tom tell us he carried his revolver on a wide cartridge belt, and low on his hip. So, not concealed, he shifted the belt lower until the grip of the pistol was just where his hand would fall to it. It was the Texas Rangers who were required to conceal their pistols, so favored the Brill that was developed just for that, and just for them.
The clearance in Tom's holster, at the rear sight, is not 'factory': he has cut it away with a pen knife, I'd say, well into the carving. My deduction is that he did it to prevent the rear sight from snagging when he holstered (look carefully, my dummy gun has had its topstrap cut away like his own Colt, for a better/different sight picture on his. His front sight was also reduced in profile and in height. See all his guns including this one, in Holstory's centerfold section.)
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J. R. WEEMS
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ANOTHER HOLSTER
This Heiser, with the markings on the back would seem to date from 1905 to 1925. Pretty good shape to say the least.
Not sure what gun it was supposed to fit, number on back is 719. Something in the 4" flavor, probably a Colt but I have coming a 1919 S&W 38 which I am hoping will be a good fit. 
This Heiser, with the markings on the back would seem to date from 1905 to 1925. Pretty good shape to say the least.
Not sure what gun it was supposed to fit, number on back is 719. Something in the 4" flavor, probably a Colt but I have coming a 1919 S&W 38 which I am hoping will be a good fit.
Chubbo
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This Heiser, with the markings on the back would seem to date from 1905 to 1925. Pretty good shape to say the least.
J. R. WEEMS;
Looking at that beautiful holster, and judging by the size of the edge lacing, I bet it will turn out to fit a Mod. 34, 4".
This Heiser, with the markings on the back would seem to date from 1905 to 1925. Pretty good shape to say the least.
Pretty good shape is an understatement, especially for a pre WW II holster.
Dating holsters is an inexact exercise but the model number 719 wasn't used by Heiser until about 1920. The Heiser stamps do not allow for precise dating, there are post-war holsters with supposed pre-war stamps. The snap on your holster is the best clue- Heiser stopped using them in the late 1930's or very early 1940's, the brown enamel Heiser Denver marked snaps are mid to late 1940's & later as shown by dated catalog illustrations.
I'll agree with Chubbo, that looks like it might fit a smaller frame revolver. Let us know what you find out.
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turnerriver
Just discovered this wonderful thread. What a great idea. It's raining here today, so I just spent the last hour going through it page by page. Now I'm going to get a dish towel to clean my drool off the bar.
Don't ever stop!
Don't ever stop!
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It has turned out to be a very droolable thread. Thanks to all.
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I believe Royal Eubank's work would qualify for this beautiful category.
The first 2 from the left were made when he was doing business as
Eubanks Leather 1939-1949.
The third from left was made later after he had gone into busines
as Idaho Leather in 1954.
The black one is carved and laced. The other two are stamped and laced.
The first 2 from the left were made when he was doing business as
Eubanks Leather 1939-1949.
The third from left was made later after he had gone into busines
as Idaho Leather in 1954.
The black one is carved and laced. The other two are stamped and laced.
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Past Post Enjoyment
J. R. WEEMS;
I've been reviewing past posts, and found a couple of yours, that I enjoyed, and would like more information about them. - First the beautiful #719 Heiser holster shown in post #150 - Page #3, of this Holster Beauty Contest thread. You mentioned that you had a .38 revolver coming, that you hoped that the holster would fit. Did it? I believe that that holster was made to fit a S&W Mod. 34, .22/.32 Kit gun. - The second beautiful holster, that you posted, that caught my eye is the El. Paso Shoulder holster, made to fit your 1945 K-22, Post #142, page #3, of this thread also. The beautiful holster shown has a slot across the holster at about where the cylinder fits inside of the holster, but part of the holster is covered, and It's not clear to me how the retaining strap system works, could you enlighten me about that? It looks as tho the holster is lined. Is it suede , or pig skin? - Thanks.
Chubbo
J. R. WEEMS;
I've been reviewing past posts, and found a couple of yours, that I enjoyed, and would like more information about them. - First the beautiful #719 Heiser holster shown in post #150 - Page #3, of this Holster Beauty Contest thread. You mentioned that you had a .38 revolver coming, that you hoped that the holster would fit. Did it? I believe that that holster was made to fit a S&W Mod. 34, .22/.32 Kit gun. - The second beautiful holster, that you posted, that caught my eye is the El. Paso Shoulder holster, made to fit your 1945 K-22, Post #142, page #3, of this thread also. The beautiful holster shown has a slot across the holster at about where the cylinder fits inside of the holster, but part of the holster is covered, and It's not clear to me how the retaining strap system works, could you enlighten me about that? It looks as tho the holster is lined. Is it suede , or pig skin? - Thanks.
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J. R. WEEMS
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HEISER
Chub- well now, I just dug these out and checked. The Heiser secures a model 31 (32S&W Long), just fine. The 38S&W I frame is a tad loose, but it works. The holster is not lined, and the strap goes Behind the trigger guard on both guns. Thanks to all for interest. A side note here: due to another thread, I surveyed my gun leather and quickly decided some TLC was needed in a bad way. Went to work and all leather is now in tip top shape. Check the thread out about cleaning up your leather. Well worth the while and time. I spent a couple weeks at the project. on anothe note, anyone ever rawhide lace a holster?? I'd like to try that with the little feild holster by Hunter that came with the I frame. Can acquire the rawhide but need to study the process. The Hunter was a bit dry, but now looks to be brand new, intact looks BETTER than brand new. ANyone ever done such a thing???
Chub- well now, I just dug these out and checked. The Heiser secures a model 31 (32S&W Long), just fine. The 38S&W I frame is a tad loose, but it works. The holster is not lined, and the strap goes Behind the trigger guard on both guns.
Thanks to all for interest. A side note here: due to another thread, I surveyed my gun leather and quickly decided some TLC was needed in a bad way. Went to work and all leather is now in tip top shape. Check the thread out about cleaning up your leather. Well worth the while and time. I spent a couple weeks at the project. on anothe note, anyone ever rawhide lace a holster?? I'd like to try that with the little feild holster by Hunter that came with the I frame. Can acquire the rawhide but need to study the process. The Hunter was a bit dry, but now looks to be brand new, intact looks BETTER than brand new. ANyone ever done such a thing???
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When I got this old Eubanks Pioneer Leather holster several of the
rawhide laces were broken and it was in pretty poor shape. So first
I laced it with a black lace which was too small. So I removed the
black and tried this buckskin.
I know it is not a very good job, but it is an improvement over the black.
I want to try again with rawhide. I've been told you have to get the
rawhide wet before threading it through the holes. Seems like that
would really take a special technique.
I'm going to search u-tube. There should be a "how to" video somwhere.
By the way, here is a Hunter that I acquired recently that had been
laced. Don't know if it was done at the factory or by a previous
owner, but it's a nice job.
rawhide laces were broken and it was in pretty poor shape. So first
I laced it with a black lace which was too small. So I removed the
black and tried this buckskin.
I know it is not a very good job, but it is an improvement over the black.
I want to try again with rawhide. I've been told you have to get the
rawhide wet before threading it through the holes. Seems like that
would really take a special technique.
I'm going to search u-tube. There should be a "how to" video somwhere.
By the way, here is a Hunter that I acquired recently that had been
laced. Don't know if it was done at the factory or by a previous
owner, but it's a nice job.
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J. R. WEEMS
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lacing
CP- check with Tandy leather-- they have the rawhide and I am sur tools to do this. I intend to do so after new years. got their catalog a couple weeks ago. first thing I thought of was soak the rawhide. Yo already have the holes so it should be easier than starting from scratch as I will : GOOD LUCK!!
CP- check with Tandy leather-- they have the rawhide and I am sur tools to do this. I intend to do so after new years.
got their catalog a couple weeks ago. first thing I thought of was soak the rawhide. Yo already have the holes so it should be easier than starting from scratch as I will : GOOD LUCK!!J. R. WEEMS
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PHOTO
With all this about fitting I thought a photo was in order. Stocks on this Mdl 31 are vintage stag, acquired from a fine ember here.
With all this about fitting I thought a photo was in order. Stocks on this Mdl 31 are vintage stag, acquired from a fine ember here.
