done with semi-auto carry

[mrchick]

I want to agree with you . Yet I still recall being at a range in San Diego's North County some decades ago, shooting a G19 side by side with a Model 60: same size but runs dry in 5 shots? While the other keeps shooting? If I were seriously worried about my personal safety I'd have a big mag auto (but not a Glock, dumb things don't have a safety).

Neither does the Model 60[emoji16]

 

[LCC]

A LEO's focus is to proactively engage bad guys, so best they are max prepared with both training and firepower. So when they find themselves in a firefight with armed desperadoes either caught in the act or finally stopped after a long chase, those extra mags on the belt are absolutely mandatory.

As a retired senior citizen, focus is to defend against a random, sudden street encounter with either a tweaker, drunk or robber. Extra mags will not change the outcome of such an event, as it will probably be over one way or the other within seconds.

What we carry is a good reflection of how we individually view the society we live in.
Some are fine being unarmed (my wife, a retired nurse, won't carry), others are fine with a pocket carried J frame, and some do not feel secure unless carrying a twin stack semi with extra mags, and a fast open fighting knife.

Regardless of choice, situational awareness and good decisions will remain the best defense possible.

 

[snowman.45]

I want to agree with you . Yet I still recall being at a range in San Diego's North County some decades ago, shooting a G19 side by side with a Model 60: same size but runs dry in 5 shots? While the other keeps shooting? If I were seriously worried about my personal safety I'd have a big mag auto (but not a Glock, dumb things don't have a safety).

I understand your point, but a G19 and a S&W 60 are far from the same size or shape. The rounded lines of a J-frame tend to blend a bit better for concealment, at least for pocket carry and some OWB. Don't get me wrong, I've carried both, but concealment is more dependent upon clothing worn with even a compact (not sub-compact) semi auto. For me, the ability to fully conceal my CCW and the anticipated potentials for the day determine what I'll carry. Quite often, it's a J-frame. Other times, it's a sub-compact auto (Shield, P365, G43). If on the road, likely a G19 or S&W M&P 2.0 3.6".

 

[REM 3200]

Glock 48 (their new Marksman barrel is just that) and several mags, primed with +p HP's. Next to it a 3" .38 stainless and several speed loaders with +P HP's.

And as needed, a Ruger PCC 9 mm carbine rides along as well, with two 27 round magazines, +P HP in one, Buffalo Bore +P hard cast in the other.

All about threat assessment...and my assessment these days is a J-frame with a CT grip, which should help those rounds find center mass, should suffice plenty for those leering old ladies at the community pool when I go swim my laps..lol

Do you have room for a suitcase nuke or does it have to go in back?

 

[SRG]

Most people never carry a gun of any kind and never have any regrets. Sometimes the mere presence of any gun is enough to stop any problems. Sometimes the problem is solved in the afore mentioned 3,3,3. Sometimes nothing you can carry would seem adequate for the situation.

Like the man at the carnival said " Ya pays your money ya takes your chances"...........

 

[Mikerbike]

Revolvers, mostly...

I'm 74 and have had some health issues. I see some videos with trainers that are "tactical" I can't run and my street fighting days stopped when I was 20. In the service I carried an old and poorly used 1911. I've now moved back to revolvers, which I carried in the 1970's moving between a Model 19 and a Model 36. I still love my 1911's and have some good ones and enjoy them. I live in a pretty safe place and don't expect terrorists or zombies to interrupt my day.
K frames find their way to my waist almost every day. Since I have some plastic guns I just look forward to trading at my local LGS for another nice K, L or N frame. A .45 or 44 would be very satisfying.

 

[lkabug]

I started out in the 60's with a S&W model 10 in the holster and a model 36 as a back up. Worked in what was the worst crime area of the city. Down many a dark alley. Never felt under gunned. When the department changed over to semi-autos we older guys were given time to make the change. Still have my model 10 and the 36, I still carry a Smith 340, 357 revolver every day. Although I must admit, my bailout bag carries two Shields 45's with 8 magazines.

 

[cmansguns]

Glock 48 (their new Marksman barrel is just that) and several mags, primed with +p HP's. Next to it a 3" .38 stainless and several speed loaders with +P HP's.

And as needed, a Ruger PCC 9 mm carbine rides along as well, with two 27 round magazines, +P HP in one, Buffalo Bore +P hard cast in the other.

All about threat assessment...and my assessment these days is a J-frame with a CT grip, which should help those rounds find center mass, should suffice plenty for those leering old ladies at the community pool when I go swim my laps..lol

My experience (NOT first hand BTW) is that pool water, especially with chlorine can be very bad on J-Frames, especially if blued. Another question would be how do you carry that J-frame while in the pool "doing your laps"? OWSTB (Outside Waist Swim Trunk Band) or IWSTB, or do you just hand it over to one of the "leering ladies" to hold?

All in pure jest....but Enquiring Minds need to know.

 

[LCC]

lol

Do you have room for a suitcase nuke or does it have to go in back?

lol..actually keep the handguns in there so if out and about and have the inclination to target practice in our local woods, don't have to make a trip back to the house.

The Ruger PCC only gets loaded for camping/travel trips throughout the PNW

 

[RobertJ.]

Everyone should carry what they're comfortable with.

Glad you found yours.

 

[ISCS Yoda]

Y'all are very entertaining around this campfire.

I never argue with anyone's choice when I know the person knows how to handle the chosen weapon. I'm not too keen on traipsing around at night in bear country but I'm not too keen on traipsing around at night in rough neighborhoods, either. But if I have to do it I select the weapon best for the possible occasion - whatever that weapon is in my opinion. They are not the same.

I have been carrying some form of fighting knife since I was a teenager. Back in that distant time when I came home late at night I had three choices after I got off the city bus. My block was a large rectangle so I could pick either long street to walk down. I usually chose the long alley, which I would walk down with knife open in my hand.

Why?

I figured, seriously, how many armed and dangerous people can there be in this alley armed with knives at 2 in the morning? Not more than one, and I was the one.

Teenagers are crazy but I was 100% correct!

And I don't do silly stuff like that any more!

 

[Rick_A]

While there are times a wheel gun is appropriate, I would generally consider my stable of bottom feeders as the primary carry arms when applicable.

 

[AZretired]

I retired my Glock 19 and my Sig P220 when I retired from LE 13 years ago and never looked back they say in my safe until I eventually sold them and acquired more revolvers. I carried a M60, then a M640 as backup and off duty my entire career. Picked up a 642 about a year before retirement and have carried it or a 638 since.

 

[blues7]

Carry the right tool for the job, (and one you are competent with), and you'll probably never regret your decision.

There's no right, there's no better except what is right or better in the circumstances.

Sometimes it's a wheel gun, sometimes it's a semi-auto. Why feel the need to make ironclad rules?

Would a shotgun always be better than an AR? Or vice versa? Clearly not.


I love my 642. I wear it daily. i love my semi-autos. I wear one when I leave my home and environs. I don't suffer any angst from having options.

 

[ladder13]

Everyone should carry what they're comfortable with.

Glad you found yours.

I nominate this for sticky status.

 

[Buford57]

I'm through with suspenders. I found a belt holds my pants up just fine.
Wait! What if your belt breaks? You could lose one suspender strap without losing your pants.


Let the debate begin.

 

[joeintexas]

Really a lot depends on physical condition. In my younger days a 1911 or 686 was the norm, now a Shield 45 and I don't feel the need for 50 additional rounds, if I can't hit it with 8 rounds I need to spend more time at the range(an idea I could get used to). Wife simply cannot rack the slide on any semi, she has a Ruger SP101 2 1/4 barrel 357 mag. Shoots it pretty good too. Live in a pretty safe neighborhood, only zombies I ever see is old Melvin the block drunk stumbling home at 2:30am. Harmless and he makes a cheap yard ornament.

 

[Donn]

Fond as I am of my snubs, (proficient with them too), still not ready to forsake my auto loader. Fact is, I'm better with an automatic. Should the excrement get real, I want to be better.

 

[luangtom]

I totally agree. For me, it is either my M&P340 or 340PD in a Sticky pocket-holster, with a speed-strip in my watch-pocket. Gerber auto-knife clipped on back-pocket.

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[hardluk1]

I could care less what a person carry's . If you want a derringer as your CC go for it . Chances are you never need it , right ?? So I carry what I want and the OP and others can do the same .

I do know when I was young I was fast and did not mind a good fight and even if you win you probably could not get you hand in your pocket the next day

. I went thru the snubby phase too for about 10 years back when small lite thin & reliable pistols were rare I could shove one in my pocket at work building homes but after work it was done too and a single stack replaced the snubby but last time I carry a snubby was around 20 years ago .Today I can't run , I'm more turtle than rabbit and my fighting days or over so I carry what I hope is enough handgun. If you haven't , go read a very true story fromsome years back of some BG jumps out of his car and starts shooting at an officer and the officer shoots his 45acp gluck 37 times and hit the BG 14 times before the BG went down . So read the story - Why I Carry 145 Rounds - He carrys a 9mm today . Then go carry your snubby .