blues7
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Exactly what I do. 642-1 around home and property. Glock 26 or 19 when going to town or further abroad.
Works for me.
done with semi-auto carry
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Exactly what I do. 642-1 around home and property. Glock 26 or 19 when going to town or further abroad.
Works for me.
snowman.45
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ladder13, I'm with you on this. While I carry a J-frame, usually a 340 M&P a lot, I have a Sig P365 that is an equally good carry piece. I rarely pocket carry the J-frames and never carry an auto in a pocket, no matter how small. But for me, these two are my primary carry guns these days.
I'm not sure that there is even one rock-solid reason for not carrying an auto, but there are several that depend on personal circumstances that don't apply to everyone.
First off, there are a few folks who don't have the strength to handle slide manipulation. Probably they need Berettas with tip-up barrels, because they may also lack the strength for DA on a revolver.
Some people have convinced themselves that they are not mechanically inclined, and should not be trusted with an autoloader, yet may be OK with a revolver. They still bear watching.
Some people can't let a sleeping dog lie, and feel a repetitive need to unload and load handguns inside their dwellings. Such people are usually better served with revolvers. A flat gun CAN be unloaded and reloaded properly even in the house, but IS it? What is the cost of an error? What is the chance of an error with a flat gun, if the slightly complex unloading procedure is performed between three and four thousand times every decade? What about loading?
There are answers to these questions. Not everyone will answer the same, for various reasons. Some of the answers will tell you a really good reason for not carrying an autoloader daily. Many will not.
bigggbbruce
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Typically carry a P365 with the 12rnd magazine and no extra magazines. I have found the revolvers to be a bit bulky since I carry IWB majority of the time. This is why we have choices, I would feel protected with any type of pistol just prefer the smaller semi's.
I have plenty of guns - both revolver and semi-auto - that are suitable for CC. But, I gravitate to the 642 more often than the others simply because it is more comfortable to have on me at all times. Just returned from a 250 mile trip visiting relatives and helping with yard chores (mowing, cutting timber). Had the 642 on all day IWB and almost forgot it was there. For just in case SHTF though, I had a G23 and three mags in my luggage.
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I like both revolver and automatics. I almost always carry an autopistol. Usually a .45 with at least one reload (either a SIG P220 or a 1911).
We all know our own comfort levels best. I wouldn't want someone else carrying something I'm comfortable with but they are not.
For me, I've seen videos, talked to, and read about, quite a few lethal force encounters. many of them LEO's, some of them normal private citizens. Many (not all) events involve many shots fired. Many officers doing simulation training frequently shoot until slide lock, and afterward, are surprised how quickly their 12-19 rounds went down range. Clint Smith of Thunder Ranch has a saying, "The gunfight will last as long as you have ammo in the gun".
We should all carry what we are comfortable with. For me, it's at least 8-9 rounds of 45 with one or two spare mags.
We all know our own comfort levels best. I wouldn't want someone else carrying something I'm comfortable with but they are not.
For me, I've seen videos, talked to, and read about, quite a few lethal force encounters. many of them LEO's, some of them normal private citizens. Many (not all) events involve many shots fired. Many officers doing simulation training frequently shoot until slide lock, and afterward, are surprised how quickly their 12-19 rounds went down range. Clint Smith of Thunder Ranch has a saying, "The gunfight will last as long as you have ammo in the gun".
We should all carry what we are comfortable with. For me, it's at least 8-9 rounds of 45 with one or two spare mags.
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I want to agree with you
. Yet I still recall being at a range in San Diego's North County some decades ago, shooting a G19 side by side with a Model 60: same size but runs dry in 5 shots? While the other keeps shooting? If I were seriously worried about my personal safety I'd have a big mag auto (but not a Glock, dumb things don't have a safety).wingriderz
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Forced into early retirement at 50 ( clicked 58 in may). My working days where 15 to 18 hours a day. Also pocket carried 9mm , 380, 38(442) & 32. Two get caught when working would been a fired thing. After retired I now I W B either an xds 45 or M & P 40 C
I want to agree with you
Neither does the Model 60[emoji16]
A LEO's focus is to proactively engage bad guys, so best they are max prepared with both training and firepower. So when they find themselves in a firefight with armed desperadoes either caught in the act or finally stopped after a long chase, those extra mags on the belt are absolutely mandatory.
As a retired senior citizen, focus is to defend against a random, sudden street encounter with either a tweaker, drunk or robber. Extra mags will not change the outcome of such an event, as it will probably be over one way or the other within seconds.
What we carry is a good reflection of how we individually view the society we live in.
Some are fine being unarmed (my wife, a retired nurse, won't carry), others are fine with a pocket carried J frame, and some do not feel secure unless carrying a twin stack semi with extra mags, and a fast open fighting knife.
Regardless of choice, situational awareness and good decisions will remain the best defense possible.
As a retired senior citizen, focus is to defend against a random, sudden street encounter with either a tweaker, drunk or robber. Extra mags will not change the outcome of such an event, as it will probably be over one way or the other within seconds.
What we carry is a good reflection of how we individually view the society we live in.
Some are fine being unarmed (my wife, a retired nurse, won't carry), others are fine with a pocket carried J frame, and some do not feel secure unless carrying a twin stack semi with extra mags, and a fast open fighting knife.
Regardless of choice, situational awareness and good decisions will remain the best defense possible.
snowman.45
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I want to agree with you
I understand your point, but a G19 and a S&W 60 are far from the same size or shape. The rounded lines of a J-frame tend to blend a bit better for concealment, at least for pocket carry and some OWB. Don't get me wrong, I've carried both, but concealment is more dependent upon clothing worn with even a compact (not sub-compact) semi auto. For me, the ability to fully conceal my CCW and the anticipated potentials for the day determine what I'll carry. Quite often, it's a J-frame. Other times, it's a sub-compact auto (Shield, P365, G43). If on the road, likely a G19 or S&W M&P 2.0 3.6".
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Most people never carry a gun of any kind and never have any regrets. Sometimes the mere presence of any gun is enough to stop any problems. Sometimes the problem is solved in the afore mentioned 3,3,3. Sometimes nothing you can carry would seem adequate for the situation.
Like the man at the carnival said " Ya pays your money ya takes your chances"...........
Like the man at the carnival said " Ya pays your money ya takes your chances"...........
Revolvers, mostly...
I'm 74 and have had some health issues. I see some videos with trainers that are "tactical" I can't run and my street fighting days stopped when I was 20. In the service I carried an old and poorly used 1911. I've now moved back to revolvers, which I carried in the 1970's moving between a Model 19 and a Model 36. I still love my 1911's and have some good ones and enjoy them. I live in a pretty safe place and don't expect terrorists or zombies to interrupt my day.
K frames find their way to my waist almost every day. Since I have some plastic guns I just look forward to trading at my local LGS for another nice K, L or N frame. A .45 or 44 would be very satisfying.
I'm 74 and have had some health issues. I see some videos with trainers that are "tactical" I can't run and my street fighting days stopped when I was 20. In the service I carried an old and poorly used 1911. I've now moved back to revolvers, which I carried in the 1970's moving between a Model 19 and a Model 36. I still love my 1911's and have some good ones and enjoy them. I live in a pretty safe place and don't expect terrorists or zombies to interrupt my day.
K frames find their way to my waist almost every day. Since I have some plastic guns I just look forward to trading at my local LGS for another nice K, L or N frame. A .45 or 44 would be very satisfying.
I started out in the 60's with a S&W model 10 in the holster and a model 36 as a back up. Worked in what was the worst crime area of the city. Down many a dark alley. Never felt under gunned. When the department changed over to semi-autos we older guys were given time to make the change. Still have my model 10 and the 36, I still carry a Smith 340, 357 revolver every day. Although I must admit, my bailout bag carries two Shields 45's with 8 magazines.
My experience (NOT first hand BTW) is that pool water, especially with chlorine can be very bad on J-Frames, especially if blued. Another question would be how do you carry that J-frame while in the pool "doing your laps"? OWSTB (Outside Waist Swim Trunk Band) or IWSTB, or do you just hand it over to one of the "leering ladies" to hold?
All in pure jest....but Enquiring Minds need to know.
lol
lol..actually keep the handguns in there so if out and about and have the inclination to target practice in our local woods, don't have to make a trip back to the house.
The Ruger PCC only gets loaded for camping/travel trips throughout the PNW
Do you have room for a suitcase nukeor does it have to go in back?
lol..actually keep the handguns in there so if out and about and have the inclination to target practice in our local woods, don't have to make a trip back to the house.
The Ruger PCC only gets loaded for camping/travel trips throughout the PNW
RobertJ.
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Everyone should carry what they're comfortable with.
Glad you found yours.
Glad you found yours.
Y'all are very entertaining around this campfire.
I never argue with anyone's choice when I know the person knows how to handle the chosen weapon. I'm not too keen on traipsing around at night in bear country but I'm not too keen on traipsing around at night in rough neighborhoods, either. But if I have to do it I select the weapon best for the possible occasion - whatever that weapon is in my opinion. They are not the same.
I have been carrying some form of fighting knife since I was a teenager. Back in that distant time when I came home late at night I had three choices after I got off the city bus. My block was a large rectangle so I could pick either long street to walk down. I usually chose the long alley, which I would walk down with knife open in my hand.
Why?
I figured, seriously, how many armed and dangerous people can there be in this alley armed with knives at 2 in the morning? Not more than one, and I was the one.
Teenagers are crazy but I was 100% correct!
And I don't do silly stuff like that any more!
I never argue with anyone's choice when I know the person knows how to handle the chosen weapon. I'm not too keen on traipsing around at night in bear country but I'm not too keen on traipsing around at night in rough neighborhoods, either. But if I have to do it I select the weapon best for the possible occasion - whatever that weapon is in my opinion. They are not the same.
I have been carrying some form of fighting knife since I was a teenager. Back in that distant time when I came home late at night I had three choices after I got off the city bus. My block was a large rectangle so I could pick either long street to walk down. I usually chose the long alley, which I would walk down with knife open in my hand.
Why?
I figured, seriously, how many armed and dangerous people can there be in this alley armed with knives at 2 in the morning? Not more than one, and I was the one.
Teenagers are crazy but I was 100% correct!
And I don't do silly stuff like that any more!
Rick_A
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While there are times a wheel gun is appropriate, I would generally consider my stable of bottom feeders as the primary carry arms when applicable.
AZretired
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I retired my Glock 19 and my Sig P220 when I retired from LE 13 years ago and never looked back they say in my safe until I eventually sold them and acquired more revolvers. I carried a M60, then a M640 as backup and off duty my entire career. Picked up a 642 about a year before retirement and have carried it or a 638 since.
blues7
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Carry the right tool for the job, (and one you are competent with), and you'll probably never regret your decision.
There's no right, there's no better except what is right or better in the circumstances.
Sometimes it's a wheel gun, sometimes it's a semi-auto. Why feel the need to make ironclad rules?
Would a shotgun always be better than an AR? Or vice versa? Clearly not.
I love my 642. I wear it daily. i love my semi-autos. I wear one when I leave my home and environs. I don't suffer any angst from having options.
There's no right, there's no better except what is right or better in the circumstances.
Sometimes it's a wheel gun, sometimes it's a semi-auto. Why feel the need to make ironclad rules?
Would a shotgun always be better than an AR? Or vice versa? Clearly not.
I love my 642. I wear it daily. i love my semi-autos. I wear one when I leave my home and environs. I don't suffer any angst from having options.
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I'm through with suspenders. I found a belt holds my pants up just fine.
Wait! What if your belt breaks? You could lose one suspender strap without losing your pants.
Let the debate begin.
Wait! What if your belt breaks? You could lose one suspender strap without losing your pants.
Let the debate begin.
joeintexas
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Really a lot depends on physical condition. In my younger days a 1911 or 686 was the norm, now a Shield 45 and I don't feel the need for 50 additional rounds, if I can't hit it with 8 rounds I need to spend more time at the range(an idea I could get used to). Wife simply cannot rack the slide on any semi, she has a Ruger SP101 2 1/4 barrel 357 mag. Shoots it pretty good too. Live in a pretty safe neighborhood, only zombies I ever see is old Melvin the block drunk stumbling home at 2:30am. Harmless and he makes a cheap yard ornament.
luangtom
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I totally agree. For me, it is either my M&P340 or 340PD in a Sticky pocket-holster, with a speed-strip in my watch-pocket. Gerber auto-knife clipped on back-pocket.
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I could care less what a person carry's . If you want a derringer as your CC go for it . Chances are you never need it , right ?? So I carry what I want and the OP and others can do the same .
I do know when I was young I was fast and did not mind a good fight and even if you win you probably could not get you hand in your pocket the next day
. I went thru the snubby phase too for about 10 years back when small lite thin & reliable pistols were rare I could shove one in my pocket at work building homes but after work it was done too and a single stack replaced the snubby but last time I carry a snubby was around 20 years ago .Today I can't run , I'm more turtle than rabbit and my fighting days or over so I carry what I hope is enough handgun. If you haven't , go read a very true story fromsome years back of some BG jumps out of his car and starts shooting at an officer and the officer shoots his 45acp gluck 37 times and hit the BG 14 times before the BG went down . So read the story - Why I Carry 145 Rounds - He carrys a 9mm today . Then go carry your snubby .
I do know when I was young I was fast and did not mind a good fight and even if you win you probably could not get you hand in your pocket the next day
. I went thru the snubby phase too for about 10 years back when small lite thin & reliable pistols were rare I could shove one in my pocket at work building homes but after work it was done too and a single stack replaced the snubby but last time I carry a snubby was around 20 years ago .Today I can't run , I'm more turtle than rabbit and my fighting days or over so I carry what I hope is enough handgun. If you haven't , go read a very true story fromsome years back of some BG jumps out of his car and starts shooting at an officer and the officer shoots his 45acp gluck 37 times and hit the BG 14 times before the BG went down . So read the story - Why I Carry 145 Rounds - He carrys a 9mm today . Then go carry your snubby .
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