Heavy bullet for 357 Magnum?
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Just shoot a Sasquatch in the knee ... then you won't have to worry about bears.
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A heavy gun while a pain to carry will do wonders with cutting down recoil. What ever round she chooses she must be able to fire several rounds with accurately no flinch. Practice! Practice! Practice! She is betting her life on this.
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Why 43 rounds ???
Also regarding balistics has anybody asked the bears what they prefer???
Check out this article. This is one of the best I’ve seen on heavy bullet loads in the .357 for use on big bears.
The Case For The 357 Magnum – Alaska Gunsite
The Case For The 357 Magnum – Alaska Gunsite
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How many black bears my Uncle took with Ruger Blackhawk in 357mag ???
I couldn't say ... But it would be alot .. And a few Whitetail thrown in ..
Im not sure what ammo he used , he passed in 1985 from a heart attack , in the woods hunting with his dogs ... What away to go
I couldn't say ... But it would be alot .. And a few Whitetail thrown in ..
Im not sure what ammo he used , he passed in 1985 from a heart attack , in the woods hunting with his dogs ... What away to go
The first couple of times I hunted in the Scapegoat Wilderness out of Lincoln, MT I carried a Model 29 loaded with Grizzly 300 grain 44 Magnum ammunition. My intention was to only shoot the revolver in self defense if I encountered a Grizzly I could not avoid (I never did). The ammunition was so powerful I really did not want to practice shooting with it. I still have about thirty rounds, which are well past their expiry date, so it is unlikely they will ever be fired. If I ever decide to use them up, it will be one at a time in a Super Blackhawk.
Bill
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Unlikely confrontations do happen. A friend of mine was hiking, I think in Montana, turned a corner and came right up close and personal to a bear. He waved his arms and yelled. The bear cuffed him once and sent him flying downhill. Then the bear left the scene and my friend crawled back uphill where his hiking partners found him. Messed up his arm and shoulder but he recovered nicely.
Be prepared...............
Be prepared...............
wheelgun28
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I am thinking that some of the heavy loads are a bit too long to fit the cylinder?
I seem to recall having some ammo that was too long.
Maybe the newer cartridges have a proper OAL?
I seem to recall having some ammo that was too long.
Maybe the newer cartridges have a proper OAL?
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Ruger 44s have a longer cylinder than S&Ws. Rather than reduce the OAL most boutique ammo companies label such loads "Ruger only".
Underwood is well worth a look for the ammunition you are seeking. Sincerely. bruce.
I’ve used Garrett ammo for .44 and .45-70. They also make .357
It’s a super hard cast loaded hot and they do penetrate!
I believe they are also in Montana or there abouts.
Very similar to what Buffalo Bore makes.
It’s a super hard cast loaded hot and they do penetrate!
I believe they are also in Montana or there abouts.
Very similar to what Buffalo Bore makes.
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If you missed this article about 63 actual bear encounters involving handguns you might want to read it...
Pistols or Handguns 95% Effective When Used to Defend Against Bear Attacks, 63 Cases
Pistols or Handguns 95% Effective When Used to Defend Against Bear Attacks, 63 Cases
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Riverboys
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Once, in my Hippie days in the early 1970's, I was chased by a couple of fun loving cowboys in Wyoming near Lander while walking in the woods one fine summer day.
I sprinted down a path a couple of hundred yards and I was looking to keep going for good measure when I surprised a Momma Moose who promptly started chasing me. I turned and ran even faster straight back at the Cowboys. I figured two 170 pounders were better than one 600 pounder defending her future. In that time, the Cowboys were gone, most likely laughing about scaring the **** out of me, not knowing I was double afraid of the Moose. Back at the canyon road where I started, serenity returned when the Moose broke off her chase.
Good Times!
I sprinted down a path a couple of hundred yards and I was looking to keep going for good measure when I surprised a Momma Moose who promptly started chasing me. I turned and ran even faster straight back at the Cowboys. I figured two 170 pounders were better than one 600 pounder defending her future. In that time, the Cowboys were gone, most likely laughing about scaring the **** out of me, not knowing I was double afraid of the Moose. Back at the canyon road where I started, serenity returned when the Moose broke off her chase.
Good Times!
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Groo here
Cooper suggested a snub nose 357 mag loaded with armor pearcing
ammo [now a hard cast or solid bullet].
As a bear is very fast [faster than a horse] the chances of stopping a bear BEFORE you are on the ground aree low, your best chance is to put the barrel
against the fur ,head ,ear ,under the chin and pull the trigger..
If you have time [distance] bear spray may help.
Make a clould of spray for the bear [etc] to run through.
If she can take it,,, Heavy hard cast or solid copper magnum
Add a hand fitting grip on her gun , instruction and a hikeing parter
Should be fine.
Cooper suggested a snub nose 357 mag loaded with armor pearcing
ammo [now a hard cast or solid bullet].
As a bear is very fast [faster than a horse] the chances of stopping a bear BEFORE you are on the ground aree low, your best chance is to put the barrel
against the fur ,head ,ear ,under the chin and pull the trigger..
If you have time [distance] bear spray may help.
Make a clould of spray for the bear [etc] to run through.
If she can take it,,, Heavy hard cast or solid copper magnum
Add a hand fitting grip on her gun , instruction and a hikeing parter
Should be fine.
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Hunting bear with a handgun:
Revolver, Min 41mag to 500mag
Semi Auto, 1911 in 10mm
Rifle, 1895 45/50 or a 444 Guide Guns
Bears normally will run away, mother and cubs. Well different story, try making yours bigger and back up slowly. All the time as you're peeing in your pants.
Now running into a brown bear you're done. look behind you all the timer..
RICKY
Revolver, Min 41mag to 500mag
Semi Auto, 1911 in 10mm
Rifle, 1895 45/50 or a 444 Guide Guns
Bears normally will run away, mother and cubs. Well different story, try making yours bigger and back up slowly. All the time as you're peeing in your pants.
Now running into a brown bear you're done. look behind you all the timer..
RICKY
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ArchAngelCD
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I'm always amazed how few people actually read the tthreads. I am still seeing recommendations for the hottest loads available while the OP made it very clear the shooter is recoil sensitive. Wow.
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Groo here
Sorry ,,, Just looking at what the gun was.
The bullet will be the same just 38spec or +p.
At "hair burning " distance the speed of the bullet is of less import
than the shape and construction ...
If you had some 38 AP, hard cast or Lehi defence bullets that would work.
The thing is where you hit..
Eye socket, ear hole, under chin, or in mouth [if open]
You are going for the CNC..
Also If your hikeing buddy is the one hit, run up and stick barrel in ear
as bear is distracted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry ,,, Just looking at what the gun was.
The bullet will be the same just 38spec or +p.
At "hair burning " distance the speed of the bullet is of less import
than the shape and construction ...
If you had some 38 AP, hard cast or Lehi defence bullets that would work.
The thing is where you hit..
Eye socket, ear hole, under chin, or in mouth [if open]
You are going for the CNC..
Also If your hikeing buddy is the one hit, run up and stick barrel in ear
as bear is distracted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
