The seductive Model 39s as collectors' subculture.

Thanks for the offer, but I think I will be hanging on to it... especially given the potential Custer connection.

Sent from my moto g(6) using Tapatalk
 
My ears are burning (although Sal has laid it on a little thick). It is a nice pistol! What are the letters on the bottom of the box hidden by the gun--DA, perhaps? Does it also say "Air" somewhere?
 
Don't leave me hanging here....what does this all mean?

The suspense is killing me.

Sent from my moto g(6) using Tapatalk
 
Dust Cover

The picture of the underside of the gun is not a dust cover. A "dust cover" when referring to Model 39's is a removable metal cover that goes into the grooves on the 39's that have them to cover the ejection port. They are not that common and fairly hard to find. I have one and when I get some time I will post some pictures of it.

Hello scooby, yes, good pic and thanks. Does the 39 have any European proof marks? I was not familiar with the term "dust cover" when referencing a mod-39. Good, I learned a new term. Mike
 
DA stands for double action (there were some single action prototypes) and Air stands for airweight, referring to the alloy frame, which was new technology at the time.
What's the best guess on a ship date?

I guess I need to pony up the coin for a letter....

Sent from my moto g(6) using Tapatalk
 
Hello cougar, actually the correct factory nomenclature is "Dust Shield-
Military" Pn. 6141, price $1.00. Why would you want to cover dust?
I have three mod-39 with this accessory. Mike
 
The picture of the underside of the gun is not a dust cover. A "dust cover" when referring to Model 39's is a removable metal cover that goes into the grooves on the 39's that have them to cover the ejection port. They are not that common and fairly hard to find. I have one and when I get some time I will post some pictures of it.

That part is called the dust cover on a Colt M1911 or M1911A1 so I wouldn't say it is improper to call it the same on a Model 39, since it is largely derived from the Browning design. However, there is a dust shield that S&W sold in limited numbers for the Model 39 as seen below in the upper left hand corner. I know this is picky so I hope cougar015 doesn't take offense.
kwill1911-albums-kw-s-s-and-w-s-picture18343-sw-mil-mags-dust-cover-1-a.jpg
 
Dust Cover

Kevin, No offense taken. Thanks for the clarification and I believe we are all here to learn so your educated input is well received. I have always heard the dust shield referred to as a dust cover. So today I learned I have a dust shield for my Model 39.

That part is called the dust cover on a Colt M1911 or M1911A1 so I wouldn't say it is improper to call it the same on a Model 39, since it is largely derived from the Browning design. However, there is a dust shield that S&W sold in limited numbers for the Model 39 as seen below in the upper left hand corner. I know this is picky so I hope cougar015 doesn't take offense.
kwill1911-albums-kw-s-s-and-w-s-picture18343-sw-mil-mags-dust-cover-1-a.jpg
 
Venezuela Model 39-2

So in order to make amends for my confusion on dust cover vs dust shield I am posting pictures of my recently acquired Model 39-2 with the Venezuela stamp. Numbers on the slide and frame match and are as follows 02-72/PTJ. I also have the box and paper work and everything appears to be NIB.
 

Attachments

  • 102_1879.jpg
    102_1879.jpg
    105.9 KB · Views: 136
  • 102_1885.jpg
    102_1885.jpg
    86.6 KB · Views: 122
  • 102_1880.jpg
    102_1880.jpg
    106.3 KB · Views: 124
  • 102_1877.jpg
    102_1877.jpg
    124.3 KB · Views: 107
Those venezulean contract pistols are rare and certainly more interesting today than a decade ago. Since that country is in massive poltical and humitarian turmoil and not accessible to US citizens it brings a certain "forbidden fruit" aura to them. I would certainly love to own one. Or a 469 for that matter. It's always interesting to watch World history over many decades. What was once easy to access becomes forbidden and visa versa. Look at the guns from the old iron curtain.They sell but for very reasonable prices. I have to assume that Eastern European pistols pre 1989 were more collectable pre 1989 than they are now. I was not buying or collecting back then so I am just presuming and I am sure someone willeither verify my statement or refute it.
Either way those Venzuelan Pistols are very nice.
 
Last edited:
Confession Is Good For The Guy Who Needn't Do It At All

Fact is yours truly would consider up to and including such barbarous acts as baring one's buttocks whilst upon the courthouse steps - at high noon, of course - if such would lead yours truly to securing that Venezuelan 39-2 (Pics are about four, maybe five posts back) - now possessed by The Cougar - for Ol' DC's own self.

Truth be told, years ago this then-collector of all things Smith & Wesson 9mm, saw within this Forum a "line-up" of a half-dozen-or-so Model 39s neatly arranged in a row with the help of something like a 3/4-inch dowel. Such made for a neat, concise image indeed envied by your faithful correspondent.

Lacking a dowel, this soon-to-be gun photographer found in our household's flooring - first, in a family room's parquet flooring (below) and, much later, in a kitchen rug (below the below)(think about it) - geometric patterns upon which this collector's "massive" gun S&W collections would soon be amassed.

dcw-albums--family-pics-picture11765-39-2-collection-within-collection.jpg


dcw-albums--family-pics-picture10809-ive-got-bad-just-when-i-thought-disease-might-controlled-i-went-out-bought-another-lnib-39-2-today-i-couldnt-help-cheap-rush-unbelievable.jpg


Sometime later, Cougar would admit to seeing the above layouts as at least partial inspiration to do more with respect to his collecting and he has . . . with a key difference.

Cougar has pursued a path one might liken to eating at private dinner clubs whereas Ol' DC is more of the Burger King type (IF WE ONLY could HAVE an In-and-Out!): Cougar gets guns with pedigrees well established; Ol' DC pursues something a little less. Okay, a lot less.

Whereas Cougar maps and eventually finds the crème de la crème of his pursuit, Ol' DC has often preferred McDonald's "milk shakes" that really aren't. You know what I mean?

It's like Cougar's and Ol' DC's recent postings of Venezuelan sidearms festooned with that country's crest. Insofar as this collector is aware, the Venezuelan crest is found on only two S&W models, the 39-2 and the 469.

Cougar's Venezuelan Model 39-2 is replete with clear pedigree whereas Ol' DC took a Venezuelan 469 slide and mated it to a 469 frame only for as long as it took to take pictures of the misbegotten combo.

Someday, Cougar will realize a clear return on his investment while Ol' DC . . . well . . . will realize he's older still.

While Cougar's Venezuelan 39-2 has some Roy Jinks' authenticity to it, Ol' DC has a slide with a Venezuelan crest on it. Mr. Jinks doesn't do "just slides" (if you catch my drift).

Cougar has attended Smith & Wesson Collector Association National Conventions, where he's learned, displayed exhibits and established friendships through which knowledge is gained while Ol' DC, also an SWCA member, has done his business thing each and every SWCA convention weekend since becoming an SWCA member.

Now, if we, the body politic of the United States, elects Sanders or Pocahontas or Eh-See-Oh to the presidency, I'm sure they'll make things right or, shall we say, "equal" by forcing Cougar to stay at home one day for each day he's spent at conventions so I'd have a better chance to catch Cougar - because he, today, is clearly ahead of yours truly in the collecting thing - by bringing Cougar down to my level instead of, well, you know. Right? I mean, thataway it's a lot more easier on Ol' DC?

I'm glad we, as a society, have finally realized that "equal opportunity" isn't the same as "equal outcome" and we, as a society, will finally force the latter instead of just providing the former. Or should that be "former" and "latter?"

Yep, I can hardly wait. In fact, I suspect The Cougar is right now dividing his stash so that he can offer it to me before the weekend is out (Cougar, I won't be able to take that stuff from you until the hurricane passes).

In the meantime this "collector" will continue looking for that Venezuelan-crested slide, for it was mated to a frame for only as long as the photographs (one posted earlier herein this Forum thread) were being taken. Then I'll sell it on some web-based auction site by hooking it up with an ugly frame I don't want, anyway. I mean, I won't really SAY it's a four-figure collector's item. We'll just let everyone think it is.

I mean, that's "equal" and "just," right? Let 'em look at the pretty pictures and, you know, don't tell anyone anything, right? Just let viewers draw conclusions and don't answer any questions. Finders keepers and losers are losers, right?

Right?

Later.
 
DC,
Quite the commentary and an interesting read. Your pictures are awesome and what a great collection. If only you could include model numbers with the pics. Knowing some of the guns you own, I suspect they are on an equal par with mine. someday we will have to view them in real time. Take care
,
 
Back
Top