Agree, I was assigned one for about a year and it was the best cruiser ever. One of the fastest cars I drove.
One Adam 12 Officer Pete Malloy Reloading his S & W Model 15
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Agree, I was assigned one for about a year and it was the best cruiser ever. One of the fastest cars I drove.
Ranger514
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I started LE when speed loaders were the norm, and we trained with speed strips as well. At the range, we were timed to get us to reload as fast as possible. I alway carried two speed loaders on my duty belt, and an extra speed strip tucked in my waistband for quick partial reloads behind cover. I love watching the Adam-12 reruns I first enjoyed when I was young, but I cringe whenever I see them slowly reload from dump pouches. We came a long way since those days.
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I came along a couple of years after my department retired the last of their Matadors. An old salt told me "Those Ramblers were the best cars we ever had".
Lou_the_welder
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Dump pouches?
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Not a cop but I knew a lot about the cars .. That Matador was in use by our local town police. The PD (at that time a 100 sworn officers) was a very progressive agency and always had the best and many times was given items from the Feds and manufactures to check out.
My buddy owned a speed shop garage and many LEOs were our customers with their own cars. We had a good reputation on building and tuning "Go Fast" vechicles. Starting about 66 we did the tune up and major repairs on the cop cars. It first it was Plymouth's, with most being the 440 motor, then the AMCs.
I worked part time for my friend on and off for years, it was good money and I got everything I need for my cars at his cost!.
We found the AMC cars to be very capable/fast but we always had 1or 2 in the shop for major engine work. They did not have the reliability of the earlier Mopars. I worked on and road tested many of their fleet. As a very serious Dodge 440 owner (both street and strip racing) I knew the Mopars quite well but learned a lot about the AMCs.
Walter Rego
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Officer Reed often grabbed the Ithaca Model 37 shotgun when they exited the vehicle expecting trouble. I have always wanted one of those in the riot gun, no nonsense configuration like Reed carried.
I didn't know they were called dump pouches.
This is the M-66-1 that my brother mainly carried his first 10 years in LE. He was deputized in either 1980 or 81.
So I gathered up a few of his odds and ends.
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Richochet
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Way cool, go buy one! Follow your passion!
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNFzlbJyQHc[/ame]
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As awesome and nostalgic as this thread is, I for one am SO glad our modern LEOs have better firepower available to them.
Check out this video (the 3:00 mark) from a documentary made in '73 about the NYPD in the Bronx:
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0EMu2I_yoM&t=164s&app=desktop[/ame]
The instructor reiterates to the undercover officers that they are armed with a weapon virtually unchanged since the Indian days. Even way back in 1973, the writing was on the wall: the police service revolver was rapidly becoming obsolete.
Check out this video (the 3:00 mark) from a documentary made in '73 about the NYPD in the Bronx:
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0EMu2I_yoM&t=164s&app=desktop[/ame]
The instructor reiterates to the undercover officers that they are armed with a weapon virtually unchanged since the Indian days. Even way back in 1973, the writing was on the wall: the police service revolver was rapidly becoming obsolete.
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Richochet
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You can thank a guy named Glock for figuring out what was needed and what would work. Then Glock marketed the new gun brilliantly. That is what made the high capacity Semi auto the mainstay of law enforcement. Smith & Wesson quickly rolled out a competitive gun.
But the point is that we did not get where we are today without the brilliant revolvers designed by and made by Smith & Wesson
that paved the way.
I would like to think that those of us who are members of the SWCA respect and cherish the history of our guns.
Have a Nice Easter.
But the point is that we did not get where we are today without the brilliant revolvers designed by and made by Smith & Wesson
that paved the way.
I would like to think that those of us who are members of the SWCA respect and cherish the history of our guns.
Have a Nice Easter.
We had Ithaca Model 37's and Remington 870's. After taking over as Range Officer and Armorer for our Dept. (we had approx. 80 sworn Officers at the time), I had the Dept. buy all 870's and equipped each Officer with one. We sold the 37's. I wanted uniformity for all Officers so they only needed to train with one model shotgun.
Watching Kickok45, he unloads his Smith revolvers the same way, ejecting the rounds into his left hand. To me a very strange way to do it. Natural to him.
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Richochet
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[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drYZ-KkdXB4[/ame]
That's the way I do it, except that I take the gun to my left hand, then empty the brass into my right.
(I've always been too lazy to pick up brass if I didn't have to. One of many reasons I like revolvers over semi's.)
Jack Flash
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Doesn't seem strange to me since that's what I do, but I have never had any extensive training. Still, if I had to perform a reload in a very stressful situation, I can't imagine that I would first dump the empties into my hand and look around for a bucket to drop them in!
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Sistema1927
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I'm left handed. I use the right thumb to work the cylinder latch, use my left hand fingers to open the yoke/crane, slap ejector rod with right palm, brass goes to the ground, then shift right hand to get speed loader/strip from where I carry it on my right side. Hold the revolver with left hand, cylinder gripped between fingers and thumb while loading with right, use left thumb to close, adjust grip, and re-engage targets. All done is far less time than it took to describe it.
I watched this and was stunned. What a tone-deaf and anti-gun perspective! At the 13 min point, or there about, the officer depicted simply arrests anyone with an "illegal" gun. He can't even conceive of the Constitutional rights of law abiding citizens.
Imagine if that precinct devoted some of their resources and personnel towards training citizens in the use of firearms and then issued them borough-wide carry permits.
On the other hand, what a dysfunctional, horrible community!
Nonetheless, those officers are to be commended for their service and courage.
LAPD never used the extended magazine version of the model 37/87, that Im aware of. We had all sorts of modified versions 14" barrels, folding stock w/pistol grip, for motors for a while, and rifled barrels for beanbag guns. Of course with the 870 and Benelli there were more approved accoutrements than I can list here.
My wife and I were lucky and got these before we retired.
My wife and I were lucky and got these before we retired.
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