A fathers 30-1

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A few weeks back I was having a discussion with my girlfriend about guns and she mentioned that she was thinking about purchasing one to keep at home to protect herself and her daughter. She lives on a horse farm outside of town and although she has several large dogs she said she would feel a little safer having one. I asked her if she had ever shot a gun and she replied no but mentioned that her father used to have a few. He unfortunately passed away almost 10 years ago.

This conversation led to her remembering that her fathers firearms were boxed by the local police department and she might still have them in a storage shed. After a couple hours of sifting through the shed she produced two sealed cardboard boxes that were clearly marked that they contained firearms. The boxes were in pretty bad shape so I couldn't make out the writing on the labels. I offered to take the two mystery guns home with me so that I could inspect and clean them to determine if they were safe to shoot and she agreed. I honestly could not wait to get home and see what was inside!

Box 1: High Standard Sport King 4.5" Barrel 4089xx

This pistol appears to be a first model manufactured between 1950 - 1953. It was in excellent shape had original grips and 1 original magazine. After a quick take down, clean and lube it is definitely ready for the range.

Box 2: Smith & Wesson Model 30-1 3" Barrel 8170xx
When I opened this box I was elated to see a vintage S&W J-frame but saddened as it was covered in rust and completely locked up. Neither the hammer, trigger or cylinder would budge. I was heart broken because I knew this 32 would have served her needs well and it carried a lot of sentimental value as it was owned by her late father. I had to get this revolver back into service!

I own many S&W revolvers but until very recently I had never even seen behind a side plate. However just last month I installed a new hammer and springs in a 327 and it went quite well. Even though I only had an experience of 1 I felt confident that if I took my time I could service this revolver myself.

After removing the stocks (matching serial number) I drenched the gun down in Hoppe's Elite and let it sit for a few hours. I don't know if that was necessary but I was able to remove the side plate without too much of a fuss. Once I disassembled all of the internals I soaked everything in more Hoppe's and began scrubbing away at the rust being careful not to damage the bluing where the cancer hadn't spread. Once everything was as clean as possible I applied some Miltec-1 to all of the internals and wiped clean. Reassembly went fairly well for someone as novice as myself.

Once it was back together I was surprised at how well the action felt! The double action was very heavy and the single action extremely light. The timing looked good as every chamber locked up before the hammer dropped. The cylinder gap was very small but not touching. The hammer block was working correctly. The firing pin was protruding into the window. No excessive end shake detected. I believe this 30-1 is now range ready.

Tomorrow I plan to take my girlfriend on her first trip to the range and together we will shoot her fathers firearms once again. I have never met this man but I think he would be happy to know that his firearms are still in his daughters possession and they will be there to protect her and his granddaughter while he looks over them both.
 
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Another option instead of new stocks would be to add a e to the magnas. They fill in the void behind the trigger guard and make the hand grip more secure.

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Thank you all for the great comments. The advice posted was spot on! We both had to work yesterday but we were able to make it to the range during a 'lunch' break. Here are the details broken down into Experience and Technical.

Range Report (Experience):

There were 4 main objectives for this particular range session.

1. Safety. This was her first time handling a firearm so we spent some time up front going over the basics. Always treat a firearm as if it's loaded, never point a firearm at anything you don't intend to shoot, only place your finger in the trigger guard when you intend to fire ... etc. We also went over how to properly clear and safe each of these particular firearms and that if a problem happened while firing to set the gun down first and then we discuss what to do. We also went over the places on the firearm you don't want your hands to be while firing such as the cylinder gap and a reciprocating slide. I always find this is better accomplished before the hearing protection goes on.

2. Functionality. These firearms hadn't been shot in a very long time and the 30-1 was completely stripped down and reassembled. I would not have been shocked to have an issue or two however I am happy to report that we encountered 0 malfunctions whatsoever. A fine example why firearms from this era are still so sought after.

3. Handling. No matter how much I liked these guns these are HER firearms so SHE needs to be the operator. She loaded her own magazines, worked the slide on the HS just fine, loaded and extracted rounds in and out of the 30-1. She shot DA and SA and even counted her shots! She kept her finger off the trigger until she was ready to fire, kept the muzzle always downrange, and put her shots on the paper. She did an amazing job! I was very impressed with her handling.

4. Have Fun! I wanted her to enjoy this experience because I knew if she did she would be much more inclined to do it again. There are a lot of things I want to teach her but I decided to keep my mouth zipped and let her get the feel of it on her own. We didn't worry about accuracy, or the perfect grip, or the right stance. These are all important things of course but they will come with time. I could stay at the range all day but when I sensed she was done we were done, not a minute later. I think this approach worked because as we were leaving she pulled a target from the backstop and took it home with her. That has to be a good sign!

Range Report (Technical):

High Standard Sport King: 40gr CCI Mini-Mag FMJ

What can I say about shooting a Sport King for the first time? What an amazing example of a 22 pistil it is! She fell in love with immediately. I love my Ruger 22/45 but this firearm has a quality to it that is on a much higher level. Reliable, accurate, comfortable, this gun is really something special.


Smith & Wesson 30-1: Magtech 98gr LRN
This was my first time shooting a 32 caliber revolver and I have to say it was amazing! Six shots in a J-frame is enough to get me excited but the accuracy and lack of recoil really made it a joy to shoot. She did very well with it though she did not like the heavier DA trigger. Her first instinct was to pull the trigger back slowly which sort of staged it but I think that made it feel heavier than it was. I suggested she try a single swift motion instead, directly to the rear, and I think this helped. After a few cylinders she was able to get 6 shots back to back in DA on the paper. Watching her do this with her fathers gun and a smile on her face made this all so very worth it!


Stocks (Too Small):
Many of you already suggested the stocks may be too small for her and you could not have been more right! This revolver has very little recoil however the stocks are so small it moves around too much in the hand when trying to pull the heavy DA trigger. Her and I both have decent sized paws so a different style is necessary. I will look over the styles you all suggested and see what feels the best to her. Thanks for the advice.


All in all this was a great experience for us both and I can only hope this is the first of may that we can experience together.
 
Before we left the range I set her up with a proper case for these vintage firearms and made sure she had proper locks to keep them safe when she is away from them. I cleaned them up one last time and delivered them to her this morning. Her father's guns are now back right were they belong.



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Great job on rejuvenating that old classic. What year was it made? A 3" J-frame is a great companion.

W/o the serial # we can't be sure. But for certain the cyl latch thumb piece and grips w/o the diamond around the screw hole indicate production after 1968.

The narrow .265" trigger dates it to before 1984 and the pinned barrel further dates it to before 1982.

Therefore we can pin it down to between 1969 and 1982.
 
W/o the serial # we can't be sure. But for certain the cyl latch thumb piece and grips w/o the diamond around the screw hole indicate production after 1968.

The narrow .265" trigger dates it to before 1984 and the pinned barrel further dates it to before 1982.

Therefore we can pin it down to between 1969 and 1982.

I snuck the 30-1 serial number into the first post actually. But with all of my rambling it is easy to over look. It is 8170xx. The best I could determine was late 60’s. Definitely newer then the High Standard. Any additional information would be greatly appreciated.
 

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