Second hand ammo

CLASSIC12

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Beware : Picture heavy and not for the faint of heart in these tough times for American shooters.

Full disclosure : I live in Switzerland

I never meant to be an ammo hoarder but it starts to feel a bit like it. In the last few years I started shooting more, and whereas 22 lr, 9mm, and 223 has always been readily available and reasonably priced in bulk (1000 rds), some other bigger calibers (38/357, 44, 45, 10mm etc.) have seen an increase in prices, sometimes with a reduction of offer and little choice of brands.

I started checking ads from private sellers unloading ammo they didn’t need or want anymore (and I still do).

But then I placed some wtb ads and realised there’s a good number of people who gave up shooting, or sold a weapon but still had the ammo, who had an ageing or deceased parent and didn’t know what to do with the ammo.

As a rule of thumb I offer to pay 20 to 30% below the lowest price I can get from the LGS for fresh bulk ammo. I am sometimes taking a chance, don’t know how old the ammo is or how it’s been stored and have no recourse.

And it has been quite successful.

One young gentleman had a huge trove of ammo : his father’s buddy is a retired LGS in a somewhat remote region of the country. So he made a deal with the kid : he sells the ammo and they share the money plus he could keep stuff he liked for his ammo collection for free. Apparently there was over 1200 lbs of stuff. Lots of quality US and European stuff.

Now the kid lives 70 miles away from me and has no car. So he ended up coming down from his mountain on weekends by train (1 1/2 hrs one way) combining a delivery of abt 1000 rounds in his bag pack and grocery bag with a visit to his buddies in town.

That’s the bounty :

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This one is old (‘56) repacked Swiss GP11 tracers

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I ended up with 8300 rounds of all kinds for abt $ 2500.- spread over several months during the first Covid wave. I had to make a spreadsheet to keep up.
 
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And from other sellers :

1920 rds of 7.5 mm parabellum (.30 Luger)

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Some more of the same ammo in a military cantine

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A 1200 rds can of Hirtenberger sub machine gun 9 mm
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Surplus GP11 from an LGS

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WWII .45 (empty can and one box only, he has a full unopened can too but pricey)

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Various from a 90 yrs old gentleman

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Old stuff from an LGS

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Other private sellers

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Well nearly all of it will be shot in the coming years so it’s not really hoarding is it ?

And I still buy new stuff from LGS, always happy to support them. Just bought 1000 rds of Geco .357 for $ 450
 
What am I looking at

In your first post the 12th picture from the top has on open box, under the .38 special box with what kind of looks like shotgun shells cut in half?

What is in that box?
 
Is that all you have???

That’s a good start.

Well in the second hand dpt pretty much, from the last 6 months.

But I did buy some thousands of new stuff at good prices, 4 k of 9mm, 2 k each of 357 and 38, 1.5 k of 45, 5 k of .22 lr ...

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And some slightly less exciting SH modern stuff

3000 rds of Lapua pistol king .22

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.44 mag

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10 auto

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5.56

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In your first post the 12th picture from the top has on open box, under the .38 special box with what kind of looks like shotgun shells cut in half?

What is in that box?


That is 60 rounds of GP11 packed in 10 X 6 rounds cardboard / metal clips for the old Swiss straight pull rifles like the K31

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Well in the second hand dpt pretty much, from the last 6 months.

But I did buy some thousands of new stuff at good prices, 4 k of 9mm, 2 k each of 357 and 38, 1.5 k of 45, 5 k of .22 lr ...

And some slightly less exciting SH modern stuff

3000 rds of Lapua pistol king .22

.44 mag

10 auto

5.56


If anyone here knew that someone had that much ammo on hand, they would be calling it an arsenal and you would probably get a visit from the local, state and Federal folks.
 
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CLASSIC12, I hope you have a secure mountain top lair to store all that ammo.
With the current ammo shortage in the US, you could find you are a target for invasion, just to get your ammo stash. :cool:
 
The ammo that you have along with the guns that you evidently have, would in some states and cities, if found out(like a complaint filed by an anti-gun neighbor), get you investigated as a terrorist and you would probably get a lot of news media time.
Your guns and ammo would would probably be seized and displayed for the TV Stations and you would probably have to go to court to get your property back. Things may even get worse.
Be glad that you live in Switzerland. For all of your ammo, GOOD FOR YOU!
 
Beware : Picture heavy and not for the faint of heart in these tough times for American shooters.

Full disclosure : I live in Switzerland

I never meant to be an ammo hoarder but it starts to feel a bit like it. In the last few years I started shooting more, and whereas 22 lr, 9mm, and 223 has always been readily available and reasonably priced in bulk (1000 rds), some other bigger calibers (38/357, 44, 45, 10mm etc.) have seen an increase in prices, sometimes with a reduction of offer and little choice of brands.

I started checking ads from private sellers unloading ammo they didn’t need or want anymore (and I still do).

But then I placed some wtb ads and realised there’s a good number of people who gave up shooting, or sold a weapon but still had the ammo, who had an ageing or deceased parent and didn’t know what to do with the ammo.

As a rule of thumb I offer to pay 20 to 30% below the lowest price I can get from the LGS for fresh bulk ammo. I am sometimes taking a chance, don’t know how old the ammo is or how it’s been stored and have no recourse.

And it has been quite successful.

One young gentleman had a huge trove of ammo : his father’s buddy is a retired LGS in a somewhat remote region of the country. So he made a deal with the kid : he sells the ammo and they share the money plus he could keep stuff he liked for his ammo collection for free. Apparently there was over 1200 lbs of stuff. Lots of quality US and European stuff.

Now the kid lives 70 miles away from me and has no car. So he ended up coming down from his mountain on weekends by train (1 1/2 hrs one way) combining a delivery of abt 1000 rounds in his bag pack and grocery bag with a visit to his buddies in town.


I ended up with 8300 rounds of all kinds for abt $ 2500.- spread over several months during the first Covid wave. I had to make a spreadsheet to keep up.

So, everybody can now see why we can't get the good stuff here in the US; it is all in Switzerland!
 
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Members, please, let's not duplicate the OP's photos when we post :o. What a stash! Usable, quality stuff. Wherever you live, I've found it wise not to advertise or discuss what you have. Seeing all this ammo, I wouldn't think twice, but lighting a joint would cause me to leave immediately.

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