How much is this going to cost him in retirement monies?

[quikdraw67]

This is the United States of America. The 8th Amendment prohibits cruel and unusual punishment. Everybody is a hawk until the issue impacts them and theirs . . .

How is a bullet to the brain cruel and unusual punishment? Death would be pretty much instantaneous and painless.

I consider raping your own daughter cruel and unusual punishment to her.

That aside, he should get no benefits.

JMHO YMMV.

 

[Muss Muggins]

How is a bullet to the brain cruel and unusual punishment? Death would be pretty much instantaneous and painless.

I consider raping your own daughter cruel and unusual punishment to her.

That aside, he should get no benefits.

JMHO YMMV.

We parted from England partly because of this issue, and then Stalin proved that executing everyone is a bad idea. Fine if you want to go down this rabbit hole, but you're going to leave a lot of dead bodies in your wake. You can't kill everyone. . .

 

[quikdraw67]

We parted from England partly because of this issue, and then Stalin proved that executing everyone is a bad idea. Fine if you want to go down this rabbit hole, but you're going to leave a lot of dead bodies in your wake. You can't kill everyone. . .

There is a huge difference between a quick, relatively painless execution and being drawn and quartered.

Rapists used to be executed for their crimes.

Stalin executed anyone who he thought might be plotting against him, whether they were or not.

Convicted in a court of law in the US in 2021 is a far cry from the USSR's show trials of the late 1930's.

We're not going to agree but I think it's not a like comparison.

 

[dasnake]

Looking around

I've got feelings for this issue, I remember when my gurl was little, (45 now) she used to come home from stuff and with her brother who is 2 years older might be doing his thing, T would sit beside me listening to music cuddled in like girls do with their dads.

I then read about asshats like this one and lots and lots of others who take that trust and abuse it to this predatory extreme, and for myself I cannot fathom what goes on in their minds, I then think of the 52 foster kids that went through our care who lived with this **** and came into our world to get a respite from that life, then again I read of foster parents doing the same to these kids and getting away with their abusive behavior.

I know this scum will get theirs, but even as I think they will get what is coming to them I have to say with us being members of a gun forum and the responses of a bullet in the brain make a reader who just might come here for info and reads a thread like this and guys are saying "put a cap.in his ***" statement points directly to the foggy thoughts of antis and typical gun owner mentality.

I'm not saying this boob doesn't deserve something but spouting it here doesn't help our cause, living up here in an anti gun rathole I know darned well anything mention with a gun intent is grabbed and run with, and not to help our cause.

No rant just my opinion.

 

[old tanker]

HIS WIFE KNEW!!!!

There were letters she had written in the 1980s, and another in 1995, to multiple family members.

In one letter, her mother, Ann Marie Grazioplene, said, "All the while I was playing housewife he was taking perverted liberties with my child."

In other letters, Ann Marie described times her husband had attempted to molest Jennifer and she'd walked in on it. The couple is still married.

The poor girl's mother did nothing to stop it. The one person you think would be most protective of their child, failed.

The horrific nightmare of a girl molested by her Army general father

 

[Onomea]

From the link above:

Then Virginia did something that surprised even her attorney advocate, Ryan Guilds. The Prince William County prosecutor's office decided to take up the case. The Commonwealth of Virginia has no statute of limitations on rape.

It was Virginia that ultimately got him, not the Army. The Army, noting Virginia's decision that he was guilty:

An Army spokesman told Army Times in an email that Grazioplene's retirement rank, and thereby his benefits, would be reviewed. "10 USC 1370 provides the Secretary of the Army the authority to determine the highest grade in which an officer has served satisfactorily for retirement purposes. The Army is aware of MG(R) Grazioplene's civilian criminal case and will take appropriate action," the spokesman wrote.

Thank God for the Commonwealth of Virginia following through.

Link above is worth reading in that it explains that while we may find the punishment too light, the daughter, the victim, is satisfied with her father's punishment. (She wanted the crime acknowledged, and her parents forced to admit to it.)

 

[Muss Muggins]

Convicted in a court of law in the US in 2021 is a far cry from the USSR's show trials of the late 1930's.

This is the part we agree upon . . .

 

[sigp220.45]

I worked worked violent crime for 25 years, and carried about 40-50 cases at any given time, in various stages of investigation. About half of those were child sexual assault cases. I've put lots and lots of kiddy diddlers in federal prison.

Given the large number of members here, I'd say several dozen are current/past offenders. Sorry - its just the way the numbers work.

This Army creep got slammed as much as/more than most.

One thing about working CSA cases - nobody likes you. The victim sees you locking up Daddy or Uncle Ted. Mom says you are destroying the family. Dad says you don't understand, and he was molested as a kid so its not his fault anyway. If you manage to limp your leaky boat to trial, a defense attorney will bravely take on a 12 year old girl and get her to say you love your Dad, don't you? Maybe you dreamed this? While Mom is staring from the cheap seats nodding her head. Its no wonder prosecutors take any deal that means a conviction.

While I'm on a roll - most kid touchers do just fine in prison, judging by the number of repeaters I've dealt with.

 

[Muss Muggins]

While I'm on a roll - most kid touchers do just fine in prison, judging by the number of repeaters I've dealt with.

Agreed. Of course, the feds try to put 'em together at the same places, so that helps. While I'm on a roll, I'll say they are extraordinarily good bond clients, as the bonds are high, the families will pay to have them put, and they want to stick around to prove their innocence. I'd take every one I could get . . .

 

[Doug M.]

Fundamentally decent people have no conception of the depths of behavior we see working in the system. This would be an example. "Stranger danger" is not the reality of such offenses. The vast majority are by close family members. 10%, MAYBE, are strangers. Offenses committed by strangers are rare enough to be a surprise when we get one.

 

[dasnake]

I gotta ask......?

Agreed. Of course, the feds try to put 'em together at the same places, so that helps. While I'm on a roll, I'll say they are extraordinarily good bond clients, as the bonds are high, the families will pay to have them put, and they want to stick around to prove their innocence. I'd take every one I could get . . .

Are you a bondsman?

 

[Muss Muggins]

Are you a bondsman?

Yes, I am, but I would have said that during my LE career as well. Kinda like my retired FBI friend pointed out, some things are always true. . . .

 

[dasnake]

I gotta ask......?

Yes, I am, but I would have said that during my LE career as well. Kinda like my retired FBI friend pointed out, some things are always true. . . .

That must be interesting work, do you do the midnight run stuff at all, or do you have employees for that

 

[Muss Muggins]

That must be interesting work, do you do the midnight run stuff at all, or do you have employees for that

I've got people. I don't do nights, and I only do weekends before noon. I'm retired drawing my pension, and my health insurance is also paid by the Yankee Gov't. I also serve process and bounty hunt, but I work as much as I want and turn down stuff all the time