vonn
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None of my import Russian rifles shoot so poorly with import ammo that I would want to be in front of them in the hands of someone wanting to do me harm. BTDT.
Russian Ammo BANNED
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Although I don't use any, I don't have an issue with steel or aluminum cased ammo if that's what you want to use. But I have never used any Russian-made ammo as a matter of principle. Nor do I have any Russian firearms.
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I hit six stops in a reasonably short circuit today.
Came home with about a case of russkie steel goodness, LOL.
Gotta feed the girls once in a while.
Besides, I still think the SKS makes a great defensive rifle.
Lot less evil-lookin' than an AK if a prosecutor wants to waive
it around in front of a jury.
Came home with about a case of russkie steel goodness, LOL.
Gotta feed the girls once in a while.
Besides, I still think the SKS makes a great defensive rifle.
Lot less evil-lookin' than an AK if a prosecutor wants to waive
it around in front of a jury.
I don't know whether this will hurt Russia or not.
It will hurt the American shooters who have ComBloc firearms.
I have a Soviet SKS, CZ52, CZ527 in 7.62x39, P64, Bulgarian Makarov, Yugo Tokarev, and an East German AKM.
Luckily I have enough steel cased ammo to keep them fed for a long time.
Generally I don't fire steel cased ammo in guns designed to fire brass ammo, and vice versa.
I question the motive here.
It will hurt the American shooters who have ComBloc firearms.
I have a Soviet SKS, CZ52, CZ527 in 7.62x39, P64, Bulgarian Makarov, Yugo Tokarev, and an East German AKM.
Luckily I have enough steel cased ammo to keep them fed for a long time.
Generally I don't fire steel cased ammo in guns designed to fire brass ammo, and vice versa.
I question the motive here.
AJ
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Was thinking that.
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I bought a Chinese SKS eons ago for $69. Later I bought a Yugo model. Both are extremely accurate considering what they were designed for. I also have a few AK models. All are 100% reliable with any ammo I feed it with.
I load my own and those loads are superior to everything else. Nevertheless, when it was on sale real cheep I bought 2 cases of Russian steel cased 7.62x39. It was all 100% fire and the accuracy was acceptable as well.
Thus,.....I dispute all of the negative comments about SKSs and Ruskie ammo.
I load my own and those loads are superior to everything else. Nevertheless, when it was on sale real cheep I bought 2 cases of Russian steel cased 7.62x39. It was all 100% fire and the accuracy was acceptable as well.
Thus,.....I dispute all of the negative comments about SKSs and Ruskie ammo.
Were you unaware that steel cased ammo from Eastern Europe is also made in 9mm, .45ACP, .223, .308 and .30-'06? (and others too)
It is going to drive the price of brass cased ammo up a fair bit. The non-Russian plants will hopefully go into overdrive speed.
If you are training and running drills, steel works just fine. Even if you replace your AR barrel and bolt every 6,500 rounds, you are still WAY ahead money wise. And semi-auto pistol barrels are usually between $100 and $200, and a 5 minute swap at most. I just got a factory .357 SIG barrel for my P229 in a sealed factory package delivered for $125.
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This is not about Russia, this is about ammo. All the guys shooting Russian are now going to be buying the same ammo as the guys that don't shoot Russian.
Add in all the new gun purchasers that don't know what ammo used to cost and don't care that some day the "prices will have to come down"
The government gets all the guns and ammo it wants but feels the need to restrict what we can get. What should that tell you?
Add in all the new gun purchasers that don't know what ammo used to cost and don't care that some day the "prices will have to come down"
The government gets all the guns and ammo it wants but feels the need to restrict what we can get. What should that tell you?
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SchemaEnigma
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The last I knew, Wolf Gold was manufactured in Taiwan. Has that changed?
(And, before that, wasn't it made by Prvi Partizan in Serbia?)
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Great news, 40% of the ammunition sold in this country is being removed from the market causing everyone to pay more when the steel case shooters start shooting brass out of necessity.
Reloaders will feel the pinch as well.
The government finding a way to force price increases and shortages onto ammunition is no call for celebration.
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Source? ...
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Here's one:
Russian Ammunition Imports Halted, May Send Demand, Prices a
Absolutely no reason for rejoicing over higher prices and limited availability due to shortages.
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Regardless of whether you use any Russian ammo, steel cased or not, there is nothing good about more restrictions placed on American gun owners. How Russia deals with one of their convicted criminals that has gained worldwide media attention as some kind of an opposition martyr is none of America's business.
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I've only used the steel case stuff once. Years ago I bought some Wolf .30 Carbine ammo because it was cheap. That **** broke the extractor in my M1 Carbine not once, but twice!The first time I thought it was just a fluke. The second time I knew it was the ammo. I've never had any problems at all with brass cased ammo. ....
During WW2, the US was experimenting on steel cased .30 Carbine ammunition. I have a box of it somewhere. I guess we now know why it didn't go into general production.
Why not keep the money at home and you all get together and start manufacturing that ammo etc here with your entrepreneurial spirit.
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I know we're not to discuss politics, so I will try to keep this as politically generic and firearm-related as possible:
This does not punish Russia.
They are providing a desired goods that our civilian population wants; not for armed insurrection but for recreational shooting.
Selling it to you and me, keeps it out of the hands of other countries and groups that would do far more than shoot paper and steel targets. There's a lot of such places, full of oil and drug money, that would gladly buy all this up. This includes a certain country in Asia that now has a bunch of new M4's; and the Russians make ammo in all useful calibers.
So. the Russians will shrug, say OK, and sell it to them instead. And then our government will yell and scream about it, and spend money addressing that, while they had already addressed the problem free of charge, by letting it's civilian population buy and shoot it.
So the question is, who are they really punishing, and why?
Hasn't the Soviet Union/Russia been funding our adversaries since the Korean war, and most conflicts since then.
Never met a Russian Sea Captain or crew that didn't want to stay here but returned for their families safety still in Russia.
As NCOIC of burial detail, for a short time in the late '60s,
I wonder how many young men we buried were chock full of Soviet bullets etc etc.
All closed coffins.
Wild World for sure.
Never met a Russian Sea Captain or crew that didn't want to stay here but returned for their families safety still in Russia.
As NCOIC of burial detail, for a short time in the late '60s,
I wonder how many young men we buried were chock full of Soviet bullets etc etc.
All closed coffins.
Wild World for sure.
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Frank46
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I believe that the wolf 22lr is made now in Germany. Never found it on the open market to rest in my 22's. Frank
