Carry with a round in the chamber?

[cracker57]

I hate these one in the chamber threads. However here is a story I heard fact or fiction I do not know for sure.
It starts as many forum stories go, I friend knows a coworker and this co worker was almost involved in a car jacking although this would have been a truck jacking.
The story goes like this. Coworker is driving in the UP of Michigan and the car in front of him stops in the middle of the road. A woman gets out screaming for help. Two men get out and start walking toward the truck, the driver does not like what is unfolding in front of him so he pulled his pistol and every one runs back to the car and it speeds off. Little did anyone know this was also witness be 2 cops, one leaves after the car and the other approaches the truck. The officer checks out the truck drivers permits, and takes control of the drivers pistol. After everything clears the cop tells the driver he did everything right except one thing. When the driver ask what that one thing was the officer racked the slide and said always have a round in the chamber or you may forget to chamber a round like you did this time.
Like I stated this could be true or it could be BS, but it gives a good point.
No ? asked there is one in the chamber when I am armed.
even though the OP asked about using a safety, the thread took a one in the chamber direction.

 

[bluecollar]

The Jackboys carry with a round in the chamber.

Shouldn't you?

Tell me of these Jackboys that you speak of

 

[petepeterson]

I really don't see that. Missouri is fourth in murder rate amongst the 50 states, DC, and Puerto Rico at 11.8 murders per 100,000 annually. Texas is 25th at 6.6 murders per 100,000. Y'all are amateurs . . .

Edit: I live 130 miles from both St. Louis (the city with the highest murder rate in the country this year. Sometimes we drop to number two or three, but not for long) and Memphis (9th on the list). I'm spending a couple days in St. Louis this weekend. Kansas City checks in at 8th. Texas doesn't show up until 38th, when Beaumont joins in. Then you get Dallas at 42 and nothing else from Texas . . .

Highest murder rates in the U.S. - The most deadly cities - CBS News

Crickets.....

 

[Dave Haynes]

The training Nazis are brutal. Truth be known, most of the people out there have almost zero training, and are incredibly ignorant of the guns they own. I read somewhere that serious Army folks do not allow a chambered Glock pistol to be in the vicinity when the only safety is that little sliver of sheet metal in the plastic trigger. After two years in the Army and one in Vietnam, I can't begin to count how many times I was staring down the barrel of a rifle or pistol. In an Infantry platoon fine, any place else and you just didn't know.

I've seen video of an ATF Bozo shooting himself in the foot, another Agent dancing with his Glock stuck in his belt shooting some bystander just picking the damned thing up off the floor.



When I see serious folks on a range doing the two handed stance and then pulling it back in and looking side to side I want to laugh. How about pointing it at the roof like Miami Vice? Sure, a couple of hours of that stuff is a great substitute for actually getting to know your firearm? Cops rave about how safe Glocks are because they have to. They won't shoot themselves but the Chief probably will.



I have a family member who actually had to use a carry pistol to shoot an armed robber and try to stop a serious robbery and save his friend's life. He almost went to jail over it. That's the reality of carry guns. If the DA doesn't jail you the civil lawsuit by the perps lawyer will bankrupt you.I can't imagine what an accidental shooting of a bystander would do to your life.


1911 has 3 safeties, manual, grip, inertia firing pin. Striker Fired Glock has one, a silly little pre-trigger that hides a 4 or 5 lb. trigger. A S&W 39-2 is ridiculously safe compared to a Glock.

 

[The Preacher]

Enough.... For God's sake if you're going to carry (regardless if you have a safety or no) KEEP A ROUND IN THE CHAMBER SO IF YOU NEED IT YOU GOT IT.... PRACTICE! Get used to it. Make it second nature. Know the round is in there and be ready... If you carry, you carry for a reason (God forbid it happens) so just be ready. And being ready means you have a round in the chamber. If you can't do that... Well hell, there's no sense in carrying.

The Preacher

 

[oldiegoldie]

The training Nazis are brutal. Truth be known, most of the people out there have almost zero training, and are incredibly ignorant of the guns they own. I read somewhere that serious Army folks do not allow a chambered Glock pistol to be in the vicinity when the only safety is that little sliver of sheet metal in the plastic trigger. After two years in the Army and one in Vietnam, I can't begin to count how many times I was staring down the barrel of a rifle or pistol. In an Infantry platoon fine, any place else and you just didn't know.

I've seen video of an ATF Bozo shooting himself in the foot, another Agent dancing with his Glock stuck in his belt shooting some bystander just picking the damned thing up off the floor.



When I see serious folks on a range doing the two handed stance and then pulling it back in and looking side to side I want to laugh. How about pointing it at the roof like Miami Vice? Sure, a couple of hours of that stuff is a great substitute for actually getting to know your firearm? Cops rave about how safe Glocks are because they have to. They won't shoot themselves but the Chief probably will.



I have a family member who actually had to use a carry pistol to shoot an armed robber and try to stop a serious robbery and save his friend's life. He almost went to jail over it. That's the reality of carry guns. If the DA doesn't jail you the civil lawsuit by the perps lawyer will bankrupt you.I can't imagine what an accidental shooting of a bystander would do to your life.


1911 has 3 safeties, manual, grip, inertia firing pin. Striker Fired Glock has one, a silly little pre-trigger that hides a 4 or 5 lb. trigger. A S&W 39-2 is ridiculously safe compared to a Glock.

thanks for an excellent comment. the next to last paragraph is so true. if you've never been sued and had to defend yourself, you have no idea of the expenses. sometimes i wonder if i want to carry.

 

[JAREDSHS]

Preacher has got it spot on correct. You can prove the right conclusion to your self by just observing anyone picking up a firearm……what is the first thing that happens ???They open the cylynder or jack the slide….why is this?….because everyone instively "knows" that a live round belongs in that chamber. Good post Preacher.
.

 

[gnappi]

On of course.

The only reason not to is a lack of gunhandling skill. In that instance, you shouldn't be carrying a gun.

If it's there use it

 

[gnappi]

Depends on the pistol. 1911, yes. Shield, no . . .

Please explain?

The 1911 has a grip safety, a disconnector, and from the 80's on a firing pin lock. The thumb safety makes four. Is it necessary? No, but I only knew one shooter in all my years who carried one with the safety off.

What is it about a safety that makes shooters so divisive? WHY does anyone give a hoot who uses one, or not?

 

[Muss Muggins]

Please explain?

The 1911 has a grip safety, a disconnector, and from the 80's on a firing pin lock. The thumb safety makes four. Is it necessary? No, but I only knew one shooter in all my years who carried one with the safety off.

What is it about a safety that makes shooters so divisive? WHY does anyone give a hoot who uses one, or not?

I dunno, but maybe you do, since you explained to me why I'm doing it wrong . . .

 

[gnappi]

I dunno, but maybe you do, since you explained to me why I'm doing it wrong . . .

Only you know your inabilities. I could care less.

 

[m&p2.0fdethumbsafety]

If you conceal carry a pistol with round in the chamber, do you keep your thumb safety on or off? Just to clarify, I have a Smith&Wesson, M&P 9mm EZ with an internal hammer. It has a thumb safety, and a grip safety.

with the ez, it's easy to sweep the thumb safety and it's meant to be carried like the 1911. ie thumb safety on, then disengaged when bringing up to the target, with your thumb using the safety peddle as a thumb rest while firing. this makes sense because the ez's trigger is light and mimics the feel of sa triggers like the 1911. in fact the ez appears to be the only modern polymer gun that has the 1911 style backstrap safety lever as well.



with the flush safety design on the shield and bodyguard, i suspect it's meant to give you the option to turn it off completely and forget about it. especially in the case of the bodyguard's long double action style trigger. disengaging the safety is the same motion as the 1911 style peddle, but there's less surface area and also not much you can use as a thumb rest. re-engaging the safety is different from the 1911 peddle, it requires a change of grip or the use of the second hand. this is meant to prevent accidental re-engagement of safety either while carrying or while shooting.