It's 2021. I'm curious...

[Mule Packer]

Uh...folks, I certainly didn't want to resurrect the original thread that got me thinking about this. Nope. Not at all. But having done research for almost 30 years of my professional life, I tend to rely on numbers a lot.

As a result, I just wanted to know exactly how many of us have been in shoot outs where we've used that amount of ammo. Not saying that it couldn't possibly happen. Just wanted to know how many have actually been in that kind of scenario.

By the way, S&W Fan, that Ken Hackathorn video was spot on in my opinion.

 

[Shark Bait]

Since I retired from LE 18 years ago, I have drawn my weapon once in civilian life. A guy had a large knife in his hand and being aggressive with someone else. I wasn't going to watch a homicide so I drew on him and told him to drop it. Fortunately he did.

 

[old bear]

Oh, sure...we can talk all we want about hypotheticals, but really, how many of us have actually, been there, done that, and got the t-shirt? One percent?...i.e. 64 of us? Ten percent?...i.e. 640 of us? Fifty percent?...i.e. 3,000 of us? Personally, I haven't and am content to carry a revolver on a daily basis.

For me the number was One (1). A total of TWO (2) rounds were fired. As with so many I missed both times, but the B/G got the idea I was for real and gave it up, thank goodness..

Now in this day and age, if I were still on the job or active duty military I would prefer to carry, something like a Sig P228 or P226 with one or two reloads.

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

Several good observations posted in this thread.

2 personal observations

In a draw and shoot situation (or practice), why would anyone want to go with a Glock that requires a concealed trigger holster for safe carry and extreme trigger finger discipline to avoid shooting yourself?

I always value my old DI's rules: If you cannot kill it with 8 rounds of 45 ACP you should have brought your M1. If you cannot kill it with eight rounds of 30-06, you should have brought friends. He was a Pacific Theater ww2 and Korean War vet. And his rules might need adjusting for modern firearms, but probably not.

Because Glock =perfection and has no safety. Which is why all my striker fired weapons have safeties.

 

[Heinz]

Mule Packer, zero events for me.

 

[S&W Fan]

Something else that comes into this equation is the Dunning-Kruger Effect.

An interesting read for those so inclined:
Dunning-Kruger Effect | Psychology Today

 

[snubbyfan]

 

[woodsltc]

Mule Packer, great thead.

I've never been (thank the Lord) in a situation where I've needed to pull a firearm on a human. I try to be vigilant wherever I am, but you just never know when something may happen.

That said, my carry preference differs from my actual location or situation . In an urban environment I usually carry a semi-auto with a reload magazine ...... while hunting or woods-walking, I normally carry a revolver with reloads handy.

I'm fortunate that I can choose different firearms/calibers for varying situations.

I think the key is to be vigilant/prepared for whatever situation/location you find yourself in.

Don (FJB)

 

[Mike SC Hunter]

NEVER follow the "mall ninga's". Carry what you like and are proficient with.

 

[wuluf]

Never had to even display my weapon, but all my carry had been as a civilian. Used to carry a full size 1911, but my back won't let me, even a 3" kimber gets too heavy. I now carry a sig p365 because I can. I think about carrying a small revolver because it's just as comfortable, but that 12 round magazine usually wins. Just in case, you know?

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[Puller]

Because Glock =perfection and has no safety. Which is why all my striker fired weapons have safeties.

Ah, the obligatory Glock bash in a thread that has nothing to do with Glocks.

Frankly, I don't care what other folks carry, whether they're under-gunned or over-gunned. I'll carry what I'm comfortable with and can effectively conceal.

As for Mule Packer's data request, I've been in two armed encounters but no shots fired. Having a gun defused the situation, the type of gun was irrelevant.

 

[Skeet 028]

Other than a war zone never needed to fire a round. Only time I had a weapon pointed at someone was when three guys wanted to rob my gunshop at 0 dark 30...but it was a shotgun with a 357 backup. I had to display my carry gun one time when threatened by a "street thug" when leaving the theater in Baltimore...oh and during a riot working in Baltimore one night. I usually have a gun in the truck or car here in Wyoming/Mpntana but we live at the end of nowhere. Wife carries frequently. Either her Kahr or my Sig 365. She just bought 2 Rock Island 38 revolvers...one for each vehicle JIC guns. They are about like a K frame S&W.

 

[petepeterson]

As for Mule Packer's data request, I've been in two armed encounters but no shots fired. Having a gun defused the situation, the type of gun was irrelevant.

Ditto. Two times drawn and pointed, zero shots fired. i don't think it would've mattered if it was a .25 Jetfire or Desert Eagle.
For the record, it was a .380 Colt Gov't. I decided it was unlucky and retired it. So far, 22 years later, I've been correct!

 

[biku324]

In the policing world of the '80s/90s we were trained to always have our firearm out and prominently ready for action for 1) felony traffic events, and 2) felony arrests. This assumes you know in advance the stops or arrests are for felonies. Most times the display worked to stop trouble before it began, sometimes not. It worked least frequently with crazy, drunk, high, suicidal, or enraged people (or peoplettes). The real advantage was that you were already quite well prepared for negative events.