Help with ID

[Chef]

Wow, its been awhile since I've posted here. Glad there's still folks using this forum! Thanks in advance for any help I get!

An interesting find which I can't identify. It is an estate piece which I'm helping a friend with so she can insure it. I've never seen one in this configuration. Here's what I can tell you:

The only markings on the piece are on the top of the barrel, embossed on the right stock, under the stocks on the right side and the serial number on the butt.

The barrel reads: SMITH & WESSON SPRINGFIELD,MASS

The serial number reads: 92189

Under the stocks on the right side reads: 3 S
I'm not 100% sure it is a "3"

On the underside of the right stock is the serial number as well.

I haven't disassembled the piece any further.

From my research and the information in the Smith and Wesson Catalog (Supica) I can't find a match for this piece. I can't find a square butt model in 22 with a fluted cylinder.

Anyone got knowledge that can help identify this piece?

Thanks!!! Chef

 

[H Richard]

You have a Model Number 1, 2nd Issue. Estimated date would be 1866-1867 time frame. From what I can see it appears to be in pretty nice condition. It would be under the Tip Ups listings towards the front of the book.. In the SCSW4 it is on page 76.

Welcome back, visit more frequently.

 

[mmaher94087]

Your Model 1, 2nd issue (or type) appears to have a Model 1, 3rd issue cylinder. The assembly numbers/letters are found on the toe of the left frame under the stocks, rear of the barrel and on the front of the cylinder. These should all match. The assembly numbers are usually two or three digits or numbers or a mix of the two. I suspect that your cylinder won't have a matching assembly number.

 

[Chef]

Thanks so much...I appreciate the info! I'm dusting out the safe and reviving a few S&W projects. If I can ever find a screw set for my 1st model Ladysmith I'll be very happy! I did finish (almost minus finish) a beater 1917 brought back to life with some modern parts that amazingly fit and function. I'll post that up soon! Best Regards!

 

[glowe]

Wow, its been awhile since I've posted here. Glad there's still folks using this forum! Thanks in advance for any help I get! . . .

The Forum is busier than ever! Some things are not quite right with that Model 1?? First, there is no strain screw in the butt-frame, indicating that it may not have a mainspring?? When you took off the stocks, was there a mainspring in the frame?

The frame of the Model 1 was made of brass and covered with silver plate. Your gun seems to show wear, with light pitting throughout, but no brass is showing through on the frame, which is unusual. Is there bluing on the barrel and cylinder, or bare metal? The serial number for the gun is found in only two places. The bottom of the butt and the back side of the right stock. I can see something there, but cannot read it? The other numbers/letters are assembly numbers as Mike noted and appear on the rear of the barrel frame, the inside of the left stock and the front of the cylinder, but I do not believe any original stocks ever had assembly number?? Let us know what the number is on the bottom of the butt and using that serial number we can estimate when the gun was shipped from the factory.

See if the butt-frame is magnetic? For some reason, I recall a past conversation about steel framed Model 1s, but have no recollection whether there were any examples or not.