Model 29 Bluing

[nooch450]

Hey guys,

I've got a Model 29-10 that has been in my dehumidified safe for 99% of it's life. Never carried and only fired maybe two boxes of ammo.

I pulled it out recently to show someone and I noticed there was some dull spots on it. (First two pics) I did some reading and people recommended using Renaissance wax as polish to shine it up. I tried it out and it did help a tiny bit (last pic) however it's still not as nice as I think it should be.

I don't remember this ever being this way before I put it away last. Either that or I didn't notice...

Any recommendations as to how to get it to shine up or be consistent?

You can clearly see the difference where the SMITH vs WESSON are stamped into the barrel.

Thanks in advance.

Loving this forum so far.

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[Nick B]

Have you tried rubbing oil on it ?

 

[nooch450]

Yes I tried that before I tried the wax. I'll try it again to see if it helps. Won't hurt.

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[nooch450]

I tried rubbing oil on it again and it didn't make a difference.

I'm about to try some of the FLITZ metal polish.

This guy had some success with it.

Smith & Wesson 586 bluing issue UPDATE - YouTube

Any thoughts?

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[llowry61]

Was the gun ever waxed? Just spit-balling, but looks like some type of residue.

 

[nooch450]

Was the gun ever waxed? Just spit-balling, but looks like some type of residue.

The only waxing ever done was the Renaissance wax that I tried to clean up the dull spots with...

The gun was purchased new by me and by reviewing pictures of the gun that I have from when i first got it I can tell it always had some slightly dull spots in those areas however I think they got worst as time went on for some reason.

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[Benchrest1]

If it was my gun I would never use any kind of polish and never FLITZ. That stuff can remove the blue finish.

 

[jeffrefrig]

From the pics it looks like someone (?) tried to remove the bluing on the gun. I bet it would look great if it were the shade under the "Wesson" all over.
That Ballistol spray really does protect the wood, leather, & metal of guns and firearms from rust, etc., when it's time to lay them down for a winter time sleep. Spray it on an old cotton tee-shirt rag and wipe it down. Its primary ingredient is mineral oil, so it won't hurt anything.

 

[Laketime]

I would call Smith &Wesson and tell them what is going on with the finish. They will probably refinish the gun nicely on their dime.

 

[vinn]

oil rub

on guns worst than yours; i a copper pad and scrub.

 

[smithra_66]

Did you buy it new?

Regarding Flitz: DO NOT use that on a blued gun. You'll solve your problem, but you'll have a bare gun without bluing.

 

[nooch450]

Yes I bought this gun new.

I am going to try a bit of FLITZ under the grips to see what happens with the bluing. If it has any negative effects I will stop and contact Smith and Wesson about it.

FLITZ claims that it's safe to use on factory bluing.

The guy in the YouTube video had success with it and I've also read success stories on forums with it.

I've also read people saying not to use it and that it'll ruin the bluing however I can't find any examples of that happening so I think it could be a silly rumor....

There's only one way to find out...

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[mmande]

I have used Flitz on over 100 Smiths and Colts and have NEVER removed any bluing down to bare metal! If anything the rag turns brown removing left over bluing salts from the original process. BUT... apply with a very soft rag and light finger pressure only. Polish the same way with a very soft, clean rag like a micro-fiber.
It has also been my experience with any Smiths made after 1990 that the bluing will not polish out to a bright finish.
Just my 2 cents worth;
Mike

 

[nooch450]

I have used Flitz on over 100 Smiths and Colts and have NEVER removed any bluing down to bare metal! If anything the rag turns brown removing left over bluing salts from the original process. BUT... apply with a very soft rag and light finger pressure only. Polish the same way with a very soft, clean rag like a micro-fiber.

It has also been my experience with any Smiths made after 1990 that the bluing will not polish out to a bright finish.

Just my 2 cents worth;

Mike

Mike,

Have you tried the FLITZ on the newer production blued Smiths like the one I have here with good results?

Do you think that milky haze you see in my pictures will be helped? I'd like to get the gun to look consistent at a minimum if possible...

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[Rich Richardson]

Maybe try some Flitz under the grip first?

 

[Richard Simmons]

Not sure what to do about the bluing but if you're storing it in the case you should stop!

 

[nooch450]

Not sure what to do about the bluing but if you're storing it in the case you should stop!

It has been in the case, and the case has been in the dehumidified safe.

What should they be a problem?

I will keep it out of the case if needed.

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[Pizza Bob]

After you fired the two boxes of ammo, you didn't clean the gun with Hoppes #9 (or similar cleaner) by any chance did you? Ammoniated cleaners can ruin the finish on the guns that are blued the environmentally friendly way, which being a 29-10, yours certainly was. Just a thought - no hint as to how, or even if, it can be restored.

Adios,

Pizza Bob

 

[Richard Simmons]

It has been in the case, and the case has been in the dehumidified safe.

What should they be a problem?

I will keep it out of the case if needed.

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Not sure how they were stored but I've seen a lot of photos of guns stored in display cases with the flocked interiors where the flocking deteriorated and fused itself to the gun.

The lined cases obviously won't do that but I'm pretty sure a lot of collectors don't store them that way. It is after all a "display/presentation" case not a storage case.

Here are some additional comments/opinions on the matter.

http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-re...presentation-cases.html?182750=#post135870111

 

[luvsmiths]

I'm surprised no one mentioned this, but this looks like the spotty clouding I sometimes get on a Nickel gun when it sits for awhile.

If so, it will polish right out. I also used Flitz on plenty of blue guns. I use my finger to apply usually.

When you waxed it with Red wax, you kind of "sealed" in whatever was under it.

Worst case it doesn't polish out, and the you get to deal with the mothership. Good luck if it comes to that!

If you DO wind up having to deal with them, I would leave out the whole "I tried to fix this myself" part....