30 Super Carry

[venomballistics]

I look at this and would rather have it in a long arm for a reloadable plinker / small game gun.
Then I ponder the late great 30 M1 carbine ......

 

[BigBelle]

Absolutely not interested even a tad. I have what I want and reload for them.

 

[Kanewpadle]

If the 9mm 147gr HST's I've been carrying for years were sufficient self defense rounds, then these new 30sc HST rounds will also be sufficient self defense rounds. They've got more energy and expand and penetrate no differently than a 9mm.

The person getting shot won't know the difference. The medical examiner doing an autopsy, and the doctor doing emergency surgery also won't know the difference between the 9 and 30sc.

Here we are on a S&W forum where we're given a Shield Plus with 17rds of 30sc, and everybody still bitches and moans about it. Tough crowd to please.

Sir, I'm sure you're not here to please everyone. If you like it, that's all that counts. We each have our opinion.

And I for one will not be buying any 30SC. As stated In my initial post, I'm too heavily invested in 9MM. Three Glocks, a BHP, EAA Witness Elite, and CZ75. And more magazines than I'll ever need.

And I predict that 30SC will always cost more.

Will it catch on? I hope so. More choices is always good.

 

[venomballistics]

Sir, I'm sure you're not here to please everyone. If you like it, that's all that counts. We each have our opinion.

And I for one will not be buying any 30SC. As stated In my initial post, I'm too heavily invested in 9MM. Three Glocks, a BHP, EAA Witness Elite, and CZ75. And more magazines than I'll ever need.

And I predict that 30SC will always cost more.

Will it catch on? I hope so. More choices is always good.

seems that this cartridge concept comes up a fair amount through history.
32-20, 30 Peterson, 30 M1 carbine, 32 h&r mag, 327 fed, and I suppose we could stretch a little and lump 300 whisper and 300 blackout into this as well to some extent.
some have done better than others, and not always for it's merits.
If you reload and cast ... these mighty mice have a certain appeal.
The rimmed 32's in a carbine of some flavor make fine small game and range pieces. 30 SC would fit into this well enough. The industry keeps stuffing this into handguns with a near singular focus.
It should be both a long arm and pistol targeted campaign.
even then, there just isnt a good barometer for what hits and what misses. 300 whisper hit the scene long before 300 blackout, and historically the first to set root takes the prize. the whisper is rarely heard of today where blackout seems to have broken out beyond being an exotic novelty.
I'd rather do my fighting with a 45. though i know most every cabinet full of ammo is destined to a sheet of paper regardless of caliber.
Collectively, we are a bit foolish in this respect.
We love to shoot. Embrace this without justification beyond just simply that, and one of these 25 - 32 cal cartridges rises to the top.
For some reason, we base this upon the exception. it's for self defense, T rex hunting, the inevitable rise of the machines ....
We cannot seem to just enjoy our range time for our range time. so we burn 3x the powder and up to 4x the lead to do what something like the 30SC or 327 fed would do with brilliance.

 

[CH4]

Other than SHOT and NRA, I have yet to see a gun or ammo for the 30 SC in the wild. Who all is making guns and ammo for it?

 

[rosewood]

Other than SHOT and NRA, I have yet to see a gun or ammo for the 30 SC in the wild. Who all is making guns and ammo for it?

Saw the first few boxes at academy last year, shelves were mostly bare at the time. Have seen in several gun stores in last few weeks. Saw some yesterday. Only seen one or 2 guns though.

 

[Imissedagain]

What are the top velocities of your HOT 380 ACPs ?
Bullet type.
Bullet weight.
Gun/barrel length.