New Jersey and California Updates

Gary Slider

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Both New Jersey and California DOJ have put out Directives/Legal Alerts instructing the Issuing Authorities in their respective states that the Good Cause no longer applies. That will make it less difficult in these two states but not a walk in the park. Handgunlaw.us believes that the May Issue states will change their statutes/rules removing the Just Cause but they will make it as difficult and Expensive as they can. They will most likely drag their feet in doing so. We also believe they will expand their list of places off limits the same as DC did when they were forced to go Shall Issue.

Link to CA Legal Alert - https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/media/legal-alert-oag-2022-02.pdf
Link to NJ Directive - https://www.nj.gov/oag/dcj/agguide/...ements For Carrying Of Firearms In Public.pdf

You should read all the SCOTUS Opinion. There are some really good things in there about your rights and issuing permits etc. One example at the bottom of Page 36 of SCOTUS Ruling are footnotes (Bold mine) that state the following:
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9To be clear, nothing in our analysis should be interpreted to suggest the unconstitutionality of the 43 States' "shall-issue" licensing regimes, under which "a general desire for self-defense is sufficient to obtain a [permit]." Drake v. Filko, 724 F. 3d 426, 442 (CA3 2013) (Hardiman, J., dissenting). Because these licensing regimes do not require applicants to show an atypical need for armed self-defense, they do not necessarily prevent "law-abiding, responsible citizens" from exercising their Second Amendment right to public carry. District of Columbia v. Heller, 554

U. S. 570, 635 (2008). Rather, it appears that these shall-issue regimes, which often require applicants to undergo a background check or pass a firearms safety course, are designed to ensure only that those bearing arms in the jurisdiction are, in fact, "law-abiding, responsible citizens." Ibid. And they likewise appear to contain only "narrow, objective, and definite standards" guiding licensing officials, Shuttlesworth v. Birming-ham, 394 U. S. 147, 151 (1969), rather than requiring the "appraisal of facts, the exercise of judgment, and the formation of an opinion," Cant-well v. Connecticut, 310 U. S. 296, 305 (1940)—features that typify proper-cause standards like New York's. That said, because any permit¬ting scheme can be put toward abusive ends, we do not rule out constitu¬tional challenges to shall-issue regimes where, for example, lengthy wait times in processing license applications or exorbitant fees deny ordinary citizens their right to public carry.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf
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While I celebrate the SCOTUS decision, I'm solidly pessimistic it will result in any important change in citizens' ability to actually carry firearms in those jurisdictions. Most will (continue to) invent ways to circumvent this right.

An example is the following text circulated by the CA AG. To me, this undermines the fundamental concept that we are "Innocent until proven guilty". By including this text, the AG demonstrated the objective of finding "workarounds" to the SCOTUS decision.

Existing public-carry policies of local law enforcement agencies across the state provide helpful examples of how to apply the "good moral character" requirement. The Sacramento County Sheriff's Office, for example, currently identifies several potential reasons why a public-carry license may be denied (or revoked), which include "[a]ny arrest in the last 5 years, regardless of the disposition"…
 
The range I visited today in NJ said they will be having carry permit qualification courses but as yet they did not what or when.

When they start the line to sign up will be out the door.
 
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The CA DOJ is posting the names, bdays, addresses, race, and gender of CCW applicants and holders online
State of California - Department of Justice - Office of the Attorney General
Despicable and outrageous…
Maybe they should post the same information for all the CA politicians and DOJ officials/employees.

I tried to access the site, but it's down. I hope it stays this way permanently.

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I've posted this before, but I'm trying to transfer a pistol to a friend in NJ. He's going on 5+ months of waiting for the approval of a purchase permit. He lives in a red town but the State Police have to approve pistol permits. NJ mandates the town do their part in 30 days or less. No limitation on the State's timeline. And the Governor has a whole stack of anti gun and anti ammunition bills he is about to sign. They have many ways to delay (read prohibit) a purchase let alone a carry permit. I am encouraging all my friends there to apply for a carry permit but they are afraid they will become part of a database for red flag laws.
 
Regarding the CA DOJ data release. They are claiming it was done in the name of transparency between the DOJ and the public.
Apparently they have now redacted some of the data, like addresses, but of course this is the internet so the old data is already captured and available in other places.
As to how big a deal this is, apparently it's worse, way worse:
This is what someone reported specifically as being in the data sets
CCW: County, Gender, Race, CCW Status and related dates, Full name, DOB, addresses (including possibly your work address), CCW #, CII #
FSC: Issue Date, DOB, ID/CDL #, FSC #
DROS: Race, Gender, DOB, the gun store the transaction took place, date of transaction, type of transaction, gun make, model, and type.
 
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I've posted this before, but I'm trying to transfer a pistol to a friend in NJ. He's going on 5+ months of waiting for the approval of a purchase permit. He lives in a red town but the State Police have to approve pistol permits. NJ mandates the town do their part in 30 days or less. No limitation on the State's timeline. And the Governor has a whole stack of anti gun and anti ammunition bills he is about to sign. They have many ways to delay (read prohibit) a purchase let alone a carry permit. I am encouraging all my friends there to apply for a carry permit but they are afraid they will become part of a database for red flag laws.

Wait time for me was 16 days for an application filed Memorial Day weekend but it was not my first purchase permit.

Did your friend's references respond to the e-mail from the state police? Did your friend already have the NJ ID card?
 
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The Gannett paper in NY posted a map of CCW holders online about 15 years ago.

My county had not gone digital, we still had the old paper permits, and they dragged feet when requests were sent for the records, which the Gannett group never got.

That ended right after the address and picture of the editor were posted online. :) :cool:

I believe there is now a law in NY that makes it illegal to publish that information, or at minimum, you can opt out of having your info public.
 
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Restrictive California counties are now falling back on the "good moral character" requirement of the background check. This term is not defined by statute obviously, and it's completely up to the local Sheriff's discretion.
 
Looks like the data breach is even worse. It covers at least ten years worth of all the AG's gun databases. Additional records now known to have been exposed include: Assault Weapon Registry, Handguns Certified for Sale, Dealer Record of Sale, Firearm Certificate Safety and Gun Violence Restraining Order.

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California concealed carry leak: Data breach linked to gun dashboard update
 
The Gannett paper in NY posted a map of CCW holders online about 15 years ago.

My county had not gone digital, we still had the old paper permits, and they dragged feet when requests were sent for the records, which the Gannett group never got.

That ended right after the address and picture of the editor were posted online. :) :cool:

I believe there is now a law in NY that makes it illegal to publish that information, or at minimum, you can opt out of having your info public.

I think it was more then CCW holders. It was all firearm licensees in that county. My brother and his wife were on that list.
 
Wait time for me was 16 days for an application filed Memorial Day weekend but it was not my first purchase permit.

Did your friend's references respond to the e-mail from the state police? Did your friend already have the NJ ID card?

Yes they responded and he has a clean record. Local PD keeps telling him they need to look into the delay - please call back next week. Oops, the officer that does FID's is on vacation.
 
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What I expect is a long laundry list of sensitive areas where carry is not allowed. City property, parks, 1 mile of a school, courthouse or police department, etc. I see they are probably going to pass a law that you can not carry in a business unless that business post a sign saying it is OK to do so on the premises. While some may get shot down by the Supreme court it will be a while before they get heard.
 

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