Faulkner
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There is no reason not to get a Glock 19.
Why not just get a Glock.
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A Luger has a Luger grip angle. Almost exactly the same as a Ruger Mark.
A 1911 has a 1911 grip angle. What else can be said.
Personally, I find BOTH to be quite comfortable and I can adapt either way. I can't say I like one over the other.
I am confused by your comment. To me the Glock is a hybrid, maybe somewhere in between, but I perceive it to be closer to a 1911 than a Luger.
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Thank you all for your comments. The reason for my asking is I'm a wood and steel guy, but decided to give a polymer 9mm a whirl. You've all given me food for thought that I'd never receive at a gun shop or outlet store. . Thanks, again.
I've had quite a few Glocks starting in '95. Had them in .45, 40, 10mm, and .357 Sig. I got rid of my last one about 5 or 6 years ago. They are dependable solid guns, but I'm not a fan of striker fired guns. I did carry all of them at one time or another, but infrequently. About 3 months ago, I bought an M&P 10mm kind of as an impulse purchase, but I really like it. My daughter just graduated LEO academy, and since they all trained on 9mm M&P's, I bought her one as a graduation present. Now, I've never been a 9mm fan, but that is a fun gun to shoot. I like the grip ergonomics and the feel of it much better than the Glocks.
Those are the only two of the brands you mentioned that I've had any experience with, so I'd follow the forum consensus and go to a range that rents guns and try them all out.
Those are the only two of the brands you mentioned that I've had any experience with, so I'd follow the forum consensus and go to a range that rents guns and try them all out.
mckenney99
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First I can and will pickup just about any of the brands, makes and/or models and make them run just fine. Where S&W really improved over the Glock was in the grip modularity and shape. Glocks have always had a squarish grip and even their later frames, while smaller and with a couple different add on back straps (which are a little cheesey), they still are squarish. I find the S&W grip modularity an elegant solution compared to the other polymer grips. (Disclaimer - I have not owned one of the HK modular grip guns.) I found the different grip angles can be learned it is just a matter of running enough reps to develop the muscle memory. One place where Glocks do excell is in the simplicity of the design and small number of parts. If some FACTORY part does fail, it is extremely easy to replace factory parts and get the weapon back up and running inexpensively.
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Puller
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I kinda find it humorous how dedicated 1911 shooters, who generally pride themselves on their prowess with a firearm, find it challenging adapting to the "grip angle" of a Glock. Being a owner and shooter of both, it seems insignificant to me.
Gifted a Glock 19 when I retired.
Great 9mm.
Recently picked up a Glock 43X.
Really like it.
Great 9mm.
Recently picked up a Glock 43X.
Really like it.
sigp220.45
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I have a Glock 19. I like it, but I don't carry it much.
About the only negative I can think of is the need to pull the trigger in order to disassemble it. Lots of desk pops amongst the less-than-careful.
About the only negative I can think of is the need to pull the trigger in order to disassemble it. Lots of desk pops amongst the less-than-careful.
HOUSTON RICK
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i am biased toward S&W, but at least try the S&W M&P2 before you buy. It is a superb handgun in terms of grip, accuracy and ease of maintaining, and if you still like Glock, it is your money and a free country.
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LVSteve
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To muddy the waters some more, does the OP want a striker fired gun, or a polymer gun for the weight but that still has a hammer.
Reasons to buy are Glock 19 are well known, apparent reliability, availability of magazines, simplicity, lots of spares and custom bits are available.
Personally, I have reasons not to buy a Glock 19:
I own a Steyr M9, better trigger, even if it does have the Luger grip angle.
The questionable stock trigger. Do I want to fiddle with a stock pistol trigger? Generally no, so buy a S&W, Canik, Walther, H&K, or even an Arex Delta instead.
It's not a Glock 17. If you're going to buy a Glock, get the original.
Reasons to buy are Glock 19 are well known, apparent reliability, availability of magazines, simplicity, lots of spares and custom bits are available.
Personally, I have reasons not to buy a Glock 19:
I own a Steyr M9, better trigger, even if it does have the Luger grip angle.
The questionable stock trigger. Do I want to fiddle with a stock pistol trigger? Generally no, so buy a S&W, Canik, Walther, H&K, or even an Arex Delta instead.
It's not a Glock 17. If you're going to buy a Glock, get the original.
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garddogg56
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Had one carried it at work the inners rusted out,shot it well hated the feel just the wrong angle.
There are so many really good poly frame pistols out there that you need to try them out and see what works best for you. I hated Glocks until I decided that I needed to update my handguns and picked up a G17 about the time Obama was elected for his first term. I started shooting it and really started liking it, now I have five Glocks, one is my primary EDC. I also have a Walther PPQ Q4 TAC M2 that I bought to again update my pistols for optics and to be suppressor ready, really a great shooting pistol. So much is about personal preference and what works best for each of us, just be glad that we live in a nation, at a time, that we have so many choices.
I recently got a Glock Model 45 and I was very impressed.
And I went through a lot of Glocks and never said that before.
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I have a Glock 19 with night sights - a Gen3. Eats everything I feed it but it's boring. Been seriously considering selling it off.
But folks at the range seem to like the Canik brand as relatively cheap but very reliable. Others seem to lean toward the Shield Plus or M&P 2.0.
I have a Glock 19 with night sights - a Gen3. Eats everything I feed it but it's boring. Been seriously considering selling it off.
But folks at the range seem to like the Canik brand as relatively cheap but very reliable. Others seem to lean toward the Shield Plus or M&P 2.0.
Der Verminator
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I carry the Glock 19 most of the time.
I carry my Smith Model 60 Three Inch around the house and yard and when I need something a bit smaller.
The Glock just has all others beat when you consider the many advantages it offers.
I carry my Smith Model 60 Three Inch around the house and yard and when I need something a bit smaller.
The Glock just has all others beat when you consider the many advantages it offers.
To each his own. Glock is a cheap functional ugly gun. I own one. Beretta M 9 is an expensive undesirable gun. I carried one in Iraq. Would not own one.
For me it is P 226 end of 9mm story.
For me it is P 226 end of 9mm story.
re grip angle; I've never met a trigger I couldn't pull.
About a year ago I transitioned from a 1994 6906 to a CZ P07. Love it. It's as big as a Glock 17 but being a revolver guy at heart I appreciate the hammer my thumb rests on when holstering/reholstering. I carry it with a 15 rd mag not the extended one shown. Joe
If Glock had kept their non finger groove frames I would probably like them more. I have a Polymer 80 style Glock 17 clone with a 1911 grip angle and no finger grooves. I like it a lot. Glock white dot and cup standard sights are great for quick sight picture acquisition. If the finger grooves fit your hand, go ahead and get a Glock. My two favorite polymer pistols are a FN FNS-9 full size, and a Walther PPS M2 single stack compact.
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