Just put aside a 19-7 4"

[firefighterjohn]

I stopped in to my LGS and saw a 19-7 that just came in. It is a 4" with light wood smooth S&W stocks but had the original Uncle Mike's combat synthetic stocks in the original blue plastic box. Paperwork, all tools and even original main spring was inside the box as well. LGS owner knows the previous owner very well and has received several S&Ws from him before. Previous owner told him it was unfired and he had just installed a new main spring which made the single action trigger very light and smooth.

I don't have a 4" 19 or not seen one in this great of shape.
I did some quick research right there. From what I found out, the 19-7 came with the Uncle Mike's stocks, was last '-' with firing pin on hammer and had forged trigger and hammer. S/N is CBM34nn but don't know the actual manufactured date. I did a quick GunBroker search to check some current and ended auction prices. After seeing those prices and amounts paid, I put it on layaway. I couldn't pass up the chance on this beautiful 19-7 even though it was $1000. I know if I would have walked away, it would have probably been sold that same day.

Since the LGS owner was told it was unfired; and I trust his word, would it be helpful to get that in writing to go with the gun & box? I don't have any unfired S&W revolvers. I know members here are on either side of that issue...keep it unfired - vs- no, shoot it and enjoy it.

No pictures since I don't have it in my possession yet but it is super clean and nice. It would probably be the nicest S&W I own so far.

I think I got a great one on a day I just happened to stop by...

 

[chief38]

Don't want to burst your bubble but ALL S&W Revolvers have been fired-they are shot before leaving the Factory. I also have difficulty in believing that someone who changed the springs and grips had not fired it after doing so. Sounds like a "story" to get top dollar for the gun.

Do your self a big favor…..bring someone with you to the shop who really knows how to check out a S&W revolver!! You might avoid disappointment. Hopefully all you state is accurate, but never buy the story!!

 

[firefighterjohn]

Don't want to burst your bubble but ALL S&W Revolvers have been fired-they are shot before leaving the Factory. I also have difficulty in believing that someone who changed the springs and grips had not fired it after doing so. Sounds like a "story" to get top dollar for the gun.

Do your self a big favor…..bring someone with you to the shop who really knows how to check out a S&W revolver!! You might avoid disappointment. Hopefully all you state is accurate, but never buy the story!!

Burst my bubble? Do my self a big favor? Ok.

Appreciate your comments but I'm not disappointed in the least. I know, gun tales are worth nothing! I'm always skeptical of those claims, especially from sellers at gun shows:

• I'm the original owner
• It's never been fired
• It's NIB
• A little old lady owned it
• It was worked on by a gunsmith

I trust this LGS owner more than most but don't know anything about the seller.

I've bought my share of S&Ws and know how to function check them. I don't know if there's a sure-fire way to tell one's been unfired. I'm not the revolver expert by any means. I do have one good friend I really trust that has helped 'ground me' when I see something I question when we're both at gun shows; he's saved my @ss and $ several times, LOL. All I know is that this one was very nice and I hadn't seen a complete 4" 19 package anywhere close to this price. So story or no story, overpaid or got a deal, I put $ on it.

 

[chief38]

Burst my bubble? Do my self a big favor? Ok.

Appreciate your comments but I'm not disappointed in the least. I know, gun tales are worth nothing! I'm always skeptical of those claims, especially from sellers at gun shows:

• I'm the original owner
• It's never been fired
• It's NIB
• A little old lady owned it
• It was worked on by a gunsmith

I trust this LGS owner more than most but don't know anything about the seller.

I've bought my share of S&Ws and know how to function check them. I don't know if there's a sure-fire way to tell one's been unfired. I'm not the revolver expert by any means. I do have one good friend I really trust that has helped 'ground me' when I see something I question when we're both at gun shows; he's saved my @ss and $ several times, LOL. All I know is that this one was very nice and I hadn't seen a complete 4" 19 package anywhere close to this price. So story or no story, overpaid or got a deal, I put $ on it.

OK then.....

I was just trying to help. As a long time member of this Forum I have read a plethora of regrettable purchase stories and was trying to have you avoid making any major mistake. Because Revolvers are less popular today and many new gun owners start off with auto loading pistols, they are not familiar with Revolvers - specifically S&W's. I don't know your background, experience or expertise and was just making a suggestion.

I'm glad you are self sufficient and have friend's who are as well in checking them out and wish you the best with your purchase.

 

[toad67]

If you ask a question like that in a public forum, you will probably get some answers that you don't like. Chief was honest and truthful in his answer. Sounds like you are giddy (which no one blames you a bit) about your model 19. If handled properly, and well cleaned, it's possible to put quite a few rounds thru a gun before it becomes noticeable. A good thorough cleaning does wonders, heck, there are many guns out there that have been reblued that make it past quite a few gun guys...Good luck, and hope it turns out well.

 

[smithra_66]

I stopped in to my LGS and saw a 19-7 that just came in. It is a 4" with light wood smooth S&W stocks but had the original Uncle Mike's combat synthetic stocks in the original blue plastic box. Paperwork, all tools and even original main spring was inside the box as well. LGS owner knows the previous owner very well and has received several S&Ws from him before. Previous owner told him it was unfired and he had just installed a new main spring which made the single action trigger very light and smooth.

I don't have a 4" 19 or not seen one in this great of shape.
I did some quick research right there. From what I found out, the 19-7 came with the Uncle Mike's stocks, was last '-' with firing pin on hammer and had forged trigger and hammer. S/N is CBM34nn but don't know the actual manufactured date. I did a quick GunBroker search to check some current and ended auction prices. After seeing those prices and amounts paid, I put it on layaway. I couldn't pass up the chance on this beautiful 19-7 even though it was $1000. I know if I would have walked away, it would have probably been sold that same day.

Since the LGS owner was told it was unfired; and I trust his word, would it be helpful to get that in writing to go with the gun & box? I don't have any unfired S&W revolvers. I know members here are on either side of that issue...keep it unfired - vs- no, shoot it and enjoy it.

No pictures since I don't have it in my possession yet but it is super clean and nice. It would probably be the nicest S&W I own so far.

I think I got a great one on a day I just happened to stop by...

What good would it be to keep it unfired? I guess if you plan on selling it later as an investment but guns aren't really great investments.

This one is not something like a pinned and recessed 19. I say enjoy it and don't worry about keeping it as a collector's item. It's a good gun, why not enjoy it?

 

[firefighterjohn]

OK then.....

I was just trying to help. As a long time member of this Forum I have read a plethora of regrettable purchase stories and was trying to have you avoid making any major mistake. Because Revolvers are less popular today and many new gun owners start off with auto loading pistols, they are not familiar with Revolvers - specifically S&W's. I don't know your background, experience or expertise and was just making a suggestion.

I'm glad you are self sufficient and have friend's who are as well in checking them out and wish you the best with your purchase.

I understand you were offering some good advice to make sure I wasn't blinded by the story and the reflection of my smile from the wonderful bluing on that 19. Sorry if I came off as defensive , everyone can read different tones into typed messages on a computer screen; which I did with yours.

You're right, none of us knows the other's level of expertise or experiences. And with money being as tight and prices being as astronomical as ever, it's important to get reality checked from time to time. Everyone, myself including, needs a 'Hey [email protected] attention and think about what you're doing!". Having people share common sense advice on dedicated forums like S&W is invaluable.

So Chief38, thanks for your advice and expertise...I got grounded again and will continue to watch buying into the hype or stories.

But darnit...that 19 was beautiful...unfired or seldom fired. I will definitely shoot it once it's mine. I don't have any unfired safe queens. Plus, I wouldn't want to become a 'story teller' myself.

 

[firefighterjohn]

If you ask a question like that in a public forum, you will probably get some answers that you don't like. Chief was honest and truthful in his answer. Sounds like you are giddy (which no one blames you a bit) about your model 19. If handled properly, and well cleaned, it's possible to put quite a few rounds thru a gun before it becomes noticeable. A good thorough cleaning does wonders, heck, there are many guns out there that have been reblued that make it past quite a few gun guys...Good luck, and hope it turns out well.

You're right toad67, thanks for another honest perspective.

 

[firefighterjohn]

What good would it be to keep it unfired? I guess if you plan on selling it later as an investment but guns aren't really great investments.

This one is not something like a pinned and recessed 19. I say enjoy it and don't worry about keeping it as a collector's item. It's a good gun, why not enjoy it?

Yep, seems like whenever I want to sell one I bought, I've never really profited much. Things are only worth what someone else will pay for them. The P&R guns are the ones collectors covet.

I do plan on shooting it too.