Coming to blue state near you

Yea it sucks, but I'm not moving just because I can't have a black rifle. I don't have one anyway.

If I was younger it would be different, but I'll be 68 next birthday.

One of the good things about Illinois is the loss of population we've been having. There are places you can drive and not see another car for a long time. I camped the other night and I was the only camper/hunter in the whole park.
 
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I didn't always have a computer or a mug of hot coffee.

Going home at night was never on the table.

I would rather we don't go there.
 
Those of you suggesting people stay and fight the good fight don't realize the state of decline we are in. It's not just gun laws. It's cost of living , poor schools, lack of support for law enforcement. The list goes on. I don't want to spend my life fighting a fight that can't be won. I want to spend my life living!!!!!!!

That all sounds good on paper, but it will require that the place you are moving to STAYS the way you are wanting it to be.

Yeah for sure everything is going to heck in a handbasket. The problem is it's infiltrating everywhere. Lots of the people leaving the "problem" states are actually taking their discombobolated views with them. Recently I went to a very conservative gun-toting state and the people there were very nice. Then, I commented I might want to live there. That's when their attitude changed. "We don't want any of your kind moving here". I said but I'm just like you. They still wouldn't support me, since I was from "up there".

So, let's just assume we'll leave. Just for grins and giggles, let's rule out the "bad"places:

* can't have hurricanes or tornadoes - that rules out a bunch.
* can't have high real estate prices - OK a bunch more.
* must have nice people - see the comments above.
* can't be plains - must have mountains close by - more lost.
* must have clean fresh water lakes and rivers for boating - zip.
* must be a place where nobody wants to move so blue people won't want to move there.

Oh My Goodness. I guess I'll just stay where I am.
 
That all sounds good on paper, but it will require that the place you are moving to STAYS the way you are wanting it to be.

Yeah for sure everything is going to heck in a handbasket. The problem is it's infiltrating everywhere. Lots of the people leaving the "problem" states are actually taking their discombobolated views with them. Recently I went to a very conservative gun-toting state and the people there were very nice. Then, I commented I might want to live there. That's when their attitude changed. "We don't want any of your kind moving here". I said but I'm just like you. They still wouldn't support me, since I was from "up there".

So, let's just assume we'll leave. Just for grins and giggles, let's rule out the "bad"places:

* can't have hurricanes or tornadoes - that rules out a bunch.
* can't have high real estate prices - OK a bunch more.
* must have nice people - see the comments above.
* can't be plains - must have mountains close by - more lost.
* must have clean fresh water lakes and rivers for boating - zip.
* must be a place where nobody wants to move so blue people won't want to move there.

Oh My Goodness. I guess I'll just stay where I am.
I'll send you a post card lol
 
Jim, the description of what you are looking for lays up and down the eastern USA. From West Virginia to Georgia, along with Ky TN Missouri and Arkansas to name a few. Look hard enough and you'll find your paradise.
 
Its no longer a secret - our part of the North Georgia Mountains is becoming GENTRIFIED. Land prices soar, Condos being built - even saw a MASERATI SUV at Walmart. But still a free RED state - It's why THEY are all coming.
 
I can't believe people are suggesting Georgia as a haven for gun rights. the last two elections clearly prove my point stated above. Things are going to start changing fast now. The trifecta coup de grace deathblow for "democracy" is mail-in voting, ballot harvesting, and ballot curing. There is no coming back from this. The left will always find enough votes to win every important contest from now on.
 
Its no longer a secret - our part of the North Georgia Mountains is becoming GENTRIFIED. Land prices soar, Condos being built - even saw a MASERATI SUV at Walmart. But still a free RED state - It's why THEY are all coming.

Hopefully I'm not considered a " they". My wife and I have been researching N Georgia. Particularly Blue Ridge, Jasper , and Dahlonega. But there are many great towns in the region
 
I can't believe people are suggesting Georgia as a haven for gun rights. the last two elections clearly prove my point stated above. Things are going to start changing fast now. The trifecta coup de grace deathblow for "democracy" is mail-in voting, ballot harvesting, and ballot curing. There is no coming back from this. The left will always find enough votes to win every important contest from now on.

I agree with your trifecta. But GA governors office seems to be reliably red. Problem with senate race is the same as Pennsylvania. Poor candidates. I might also add the for me gun rights is big. But there's a lot more that goes into it.
 
Jim, the description of what you are looking for lays up and down the eastern USA. From West Virginia to Georgia, along with Ky TN Missouri and Arkansas to name a few. Look hard enough and you'll find your paradise.
Well, as a native-born Missourian, I can tell you it AIN'T paradise. Unless you like 100 degrees with 95% humidity in the summer time, and tornadoes ripping up the countryside every year or so. The same kind of issues keep me from moving to Florida - except that there the tornadoes start out in the Atlantic, and they call them hurricanes.
 
You didn't mention the ticks, chiggers, copperheads, poison ivy, and armadillos. :)
Yeah, those are just minor annoyances. But they are additional annoyances to consider.
Oddly enough the armadillos problem is fairly recent. They are an invasive species and were unheard of in those latitudes when I was growing up there.
Imagine my surprise the first time I saw one on the side of the road when I was visiting relatives there around 20 years after leaving the state.
I was like "what the $%#*& was THAT?!?"
When I was a kid, armadillos were an exotic critter that you had to go to places like Mexico, or Texas, or Arizona to see. They certainly weren't common roadkill in Missouri.
But they are now. Somebody thought bringing them to the midwest was a good idea, and now the place is overrun with the danged things. Kinda like the jackrabbits problem "down under" - or feral hogs in the south...
 
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Like GypsmJim, I was born and grew up in New York City.

I fled to Washington. it was great I could own all of the guns I was denied by NY. I own a business here and my wife has family here. I cannot flee, and can only vote and contribute to SAF to fight in the courts.

Some people in free states don't realize that the people that ruined CA, NY, OR, and WA can and do move to free states and bring their voting habits with them.
 
Well, as a native-born Missourian, I can tell you it AIN'T paradise. Unless you like 100 degrees with 95% humidity in the summer time, and tornadoes ripping up the countryside every year or so. The same kind of issues keep me from moving to Florida - except that there the tornadoes start out in the Atlantic, and they call them hurricanes.

Occasional tornado and humidity is not what we're talking about here. It's much bigger than that. It's about govt intervention in your life. Dictating how you live. Taxing you to death. Then funding massive entitlement programs. New Jersey governor at one point was trying to figure out an "exit tax" because residents were leaving in droves. Just think about that for a min. An "exit tax". Ex NY Governor Cuomo wanted to dictate what size soda New Yorkers could by. Because they want to control everything. NY became known as the Nanny State. I disagree. It's become a dictatorship.
 
Not if you vote them out. If you can't, then you are out of step with your neighbors who must like that stuff. But that's easy for me to say from out here in the low-tax, sparse govt services mountain West.
 
Yes, and that's the problem isn't it. The "your neighbors who must like that stuff" are beginning to out number the neighbors who don't. But in our Democratic-Republic system of government, that's how it works: the majority get to pass the laws and the minority have a legitimate legal process by which their grievances can be heard and addressed.
 

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